Topic: chambered vs. not chambered

What are the pro's and con's of having a chambered or non chambered body. I want to do a custom strat shaped guitar with warmoth... mahogany back with flamed maple top.

Thanks for the help

Logan

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Re: chambered vs. not chambered

I have a chambered body on my LP. Obviously it is lighter, but i'd need to compare mine and a non-chambered on my setup to really compare the sound and feel.

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It does produce a totally different sound, however it still sounds like a les paul.  I know that sounds weird, I'll explain what I mean.  With the totally solid bodys you find that when you play them unplugged you can make notes sing very loud on it but when you strum a chord the volume isn't really that loud.  A chambered body resonates inside its self and you can hear it acousticly speaking louder.   Plugged in your going to find the same thing.   Solid bodies the notes are very clear and pronounced.  Chambered bodies will sound fatter and fuller sounding but when you want the clear notes they seem to be fatter sounding and not quite as sharp cutting through the mix of a band.  Its very minimal at best and only really well trained ears will be like " yeah that sounds different."  That being said Its not a bad thing its just a color it puts on the string before its picked up.  If fat is what you want go for the chambered body, or skip it all together and get a really fat sound with a ES-335.  I played one the other day with my band and our other guitarist couldn't believe how it made his Les Paul Standard sound.  He thought that Standard sounded fat, but with that Dot 335 it souned like a Strat compaired to it.  So like I said benifits to both you just got to decide what you like better.  Thin and stinging or Fat heavy.

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Heavy guitars are a badge of honor that only the person playing them can fully realize.... well I should rephrase that. Heavy guitars are a labor of love. 4 hour bar gigs... you get used to it. I don't mind. Can't speak on the sound - more from a shoulder perspective.

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I like solid wood in my guitars for the most part.  I've never played a hollow body or chambered guitar that knocked my socks off other than a few ES-335's.  When done properly I don't think it will kill a guitar's tone but it does make a sonic difference.  I say if you really want a light Strat go for it!  The only thing I would keep in mind is that you don't want the neck being too heavy and causing the guitar to point down to the floor when you are not playing.  Gibson Firebirds and SG's do this and it can be a little annoying if you are not use to it.  Personally I like how a standard Strat, PRS, and Les Paul sit on your body when you strap them on.

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In my quest for a new Les Paul I played a bunch of chambered, non-chambered and weight releaved guitars.

The Chambered LP sounded good to me I almost bought one, it was light had a fat sound and sounded good unpluged. I did think it did lack some bass as I had to turn the bass up more on the amp and fittle with the controls.

Non-chambered - depends on the guitar I played a few great les pauls that sounded killer which where heavy and a couple that where total dogs, Just had to play a bunch.

Weight releaved - or swiss cheese body which my Traditional Plus has, I like this the best had the bass response I wanted sounded great unpluged and plugged in and it felt like a Les paul 9.5 pound so not to light not to heavy this is what I bought

My next guitar might be a Chambered G&L with an F hole, my wife picked this guitar out when we where looking for a les paul she liked the way it looked and wanted me to play it. So I did and all I can say is WOW!!! It took the strat thing to a whole new level the cleans where amazing and the bluey/overdriven tones where big and fat, really if I wasn't looking for an LP I would of bought that guitar. Hopefully next year. I would say try a few chambered guitars out before you build on if you can.

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Hello all-

Thanks for all the great responses! I am not really looking to do chambered for the weight relief, but more for tonal reasons. I plan on putting lace sensor hot gold pickups in it, with the Clapton mid boost. It should be a pretty balsy guitar. I'll have to decide whether or not to chamber or leave it a solid guitar


Thanks,
Logan

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There is certainly something exciting about picking up a flyweight guitar that has big tone and great action.  There is a guy who builds guitars near my house and his guitars are light...I mean REALLLLY lightweight.  I think the one I played was around 5lbs or something.  They play fantastic and also sound pretty big.  When I pick up one of those or a Parker Fly it just makes me want to play FAST!!! cool

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Either way, try to get Korina instead of regular Mahogany. And ask for the Lightest piece they can find.

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Budda-
I have working ideas for two (or more?) guitars. I want to do one that is regular mahogany, and i was still trying to think of a nice core wood that would set a strat style body apart from a regular strat, and i think that Korina just might be it! I will keep everyone posted.


Logan

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Re: chambered vs. not chambered

I have a Warmoth chambered strat - swamp ash with flame maple top - sounds and plays absolutely great. It's hard to compare to the exact equivalent without the chambering (particularly as mine has humbuckers) but there's a lot of sustain and great tone.

BUT......if you are using a Warmoth pro neck with the double truss rod (which feel like a dream to play and never seems to need adjustment, but adds weight) with a lighter chambered or hollow Warmoth body, you run the risk of an imbalance in weight which will make the guitar neck-heavy when using a strap. Both my Warmoth guitars (I also have an L5 semi with f-holes) suffer from this to some extent (I've even added some pieces of lead into the control cavity of the Strat-style guitar which evens it out a bit). It's not terrible but it's a factor to be aware of (and one which Warmoth doesn't really highlight) - the mahogany body may offset this to some extent or you could go for the vintage-style single truss rod neck (which I believe John Suhr reckons sounds better than a double).

Overall they make great guitars though!

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I had a Historic '59 LP Cloud 9 - it weighed 7.4 lbs - sounded great but it was Different
than a solid LP - kind of cross btw a LP and a 335 - I sold it when I got my JBLP - It just didn't
stack up - FOR ME - only my opinion using my ears.  There are a LOT of good chambered
guitars out there - I had a Tyler Burning Water that was chambered - it was outstanding!
The JB is only 9lbs - not a heavy weight by any means big_smile
Best bet is to try as many guitars as possible and find whats right for you!
M

Re: chambered vs. not chambered

I played about 30 LPs to find the one I liked best, and it's a weight-relieved (I believe) 1996 LP Classic.  Played many older LPs, solid-bodies, that were dogs to my ears -- just dull.  One thing that seems to be for sure about Les Pauls -- at least to my ears -- is that what you hear unplugged doesn't related to what you hear plugged in.  That's why I always recommend to play before you buy!