Topic: CTS pots

Anyone tell me how the quality of these pots are?
I changed my Gibson ones for Stew Mac Alpha pots. They sound good, far better than the Gibson ones which started to cut out too. The Gibson ones were very muddy, I didn't notice too much till I changed the pots.
Problem is, the Gibson knobs don't fit on the Stew Mac pots, currently I have Epiphone knobs on there. Which I don't like the look of. Will the CTS pots fit the Gibson knobs?

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The CTS pots should fit the Gibson knobs because that's what comes standard on most of their custom shop offerings.  That being said the knobs on a Les Paul Standard are different than a R7, R8, or R9.

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I may just get the CGE ones from WD Music then. It says the knobs fit those and they seem to be higher quality.

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CTS was the standard on Fender and Gibson back in the 50's.  You buy a custom shop anything and they have it on it and not the cheap gibson pots.  Alpha for the money is good and I have one in front of me now as I type this.  It should be a split shaft pot so take your straight screw driver and bend the edges of the shaft out so they will fit your controll knobs.  Thats why its split and I promise you they will fit.  Be carefull because if you bend them too far it will be hard to bend them back in may even break off if you go extream one way and then back the other. 

CTS is far better. They turn smoother sound quite when your turning them out of the guitar before installed.  They have much tighter tolerances and if you go to www.rsguitarworks.net you even find better then stock CTS pots for a low cost.  Everyone I know that has these RS Guitar works Pots loves them, I do.

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I bent them in the way, fit now. Thanks, didn't think of that before haha.
I'll be getting those reflector knobs now big_smile

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Cool Man!  Glad I could help, just try not to blind us with the refractor knobs tongue

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OK
    JUST TO CONFIRM
 
      I need pots for my les paul limited edition , as one pot is cutting out.
      the existing pots say gibson on them and are 500k. I found CTS pots
      here http://www.axesrus.com/axeknobs.htm should I buy individual pots or a
      kit, and do I need long or short. SHAFTS thanks for any advice

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Odds are if your guitar is not a studio les paul you need long pots.  I would buy the kit if I were you as Gibson pots suck!  CTS would be a huge improvement.

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From what I know Gibson does use CTS pots in their guitars. I know my Historic had Gibson installed CTS pots but there are CTS pots and then there are CTS pots.
The ones you usually buy off the shelf have silk screened wipers( the little track that controls the resistance as you turn the shaft). Since the track is only about 1/32 of an inch wide that leaves a lot of room for worn or dead spots. The ones that RS has made for them by CTS uses a carbon wiper, which is the same type used years ago when pots were being made properly.
Carbon is a heavier material and produces a smooth even taper. The RS pots also have a stronger more durable shaft.
Alpha pots are very good too, but I've never broken one open to look inside.

Jimi, the muddiness you noticed could have been partially caused by a pot that was too low in value. When replacing my pots I measured the Gibson CTS pots and two pots that were supposed to be 500K actually measured 442K and 368K.
The RS pots always measure over the rating. Mine measured 510K and 524K.
I also found that when I replaced the crappy BB reissue caps with Vitamin Q's the taper became even smoother and the tone was much better overall.

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AD3THREE wrote:

 

CTS is far better. They turn smoother sound quite when your turning them out of the guitar before installed.  They have much tighter tolerances and if you go to www.rsguitarworks.net you even find better then stock CTS pots for a low cost.  Everyone I know that has these RS Guitar works Pots loves them, I do.


RS sells a prewired CTS pots and Bumblebee cap kit...what do you guys think of that?  I was thinking of upgrading to this set in my GoldTop Traditional.  Do you think it will have much influence on the otherall tone of the Traditional?

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2008 Gibson Les Paul Traditional Goldtop (with the cream plastic from the 58RI)
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It will, definately...considering Gibsons current pots are disgraceful!

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OK
     Iwill be going for cts pots, but will  get them here in UK thanks for your info

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I'd like to add, Gibson USA and Gibson Custom Shop use totally different parts.  Custom shop comes standard with CTS pots and Bumble Bee caps.  I've heard more then a dozen people say the Bumble Bee caps of today suck and are not worth the $50 price tag each.  Gibson USA uses Gibson brand pots that look a lot like CTS pots until you crack them open, very cheap.  Alpha Brand...  they are a joke.  They might work well but they are cheaper then cheap I don't know how the hell those things even make any sounds come out, I wouldn't wish those things on my worst enemy personally.  I think if you go with the RS Guitarworks Brand kits you can't go wrong.  They have much better quality controll then Gibson will because they are a local family owned company that is only concerned with 2 things: 1)  Tone and the volume staying consistant all the way down. 2)  Making New old again!  If you need good quality parts please don't waist your time buy RS Guitarworks parts and be done with it.

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I emailed the supplier in the UK that I mentioned previously
and they sent me the SPEC sheet for the CTS pots they supply.
they are the 450 model and are imported from USA so I think
they look ok .

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I 2nd what AD3THREE said. The fact that they're a certain model of CTS pot or from the US has nothing to do with the quality.
RS Guitar works doesn't use standard CTS pots. The ones they get are made for them by CTS using solid carbon wipers(unlike silkscreen), heavier shafts and a very even taper compared to standard CTS pots.
The standard pots being made today are a big minus compared to the pots CTS put out 40 odd years ago, which is how RS has their parts made, and if you want that quality and even taper don't waste your money on today's mass produced junk. Find out what goes into making it and the few extra bucks is worth it.
Don't be fooled by a name stamped into a product. The new bumble bee caps are also a good example. Original Bumble bees that everyone raves about were made of paper in oil, not even close to today's mylar Bumble bees, which use a completely different film material and don't even sound close to a good paper in oil cap. That's not to say mylar or film caps are bad, but why spend 50. or more on a black cap with colored stripes when you could have the same basic cap by spending 4. on an orange drop cap. Different color and shape, but the same basic cap and the same tone.
Actually I use paper in oils but if I had to choose between the reissue BB and orange drop I prefer the orange drop.

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The alpha pots arent that bad at all AD3THREE.
Though I may have a better set than alphas standard set or something.
The ones I have are from StewMac, specialist ones (apparently)

I am quite happy with the pots I have, they've lasted longer than the Gibson ones and have no faults currently.