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Topic: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

Hello fellow forum members

The recent discussions on other artists, have got me thinking, sometimes we (myself included) can forget that the main reason for this forum is Joe Bonamassa and the great music he makes.  Joe should figure more in our conversations than anyone else (I've been as guilty as anyone else on this). I agree with the comment Jim made on the causes of the Back Door Slam backlash upon that debate:

jim m wrote:

I think this was brewing because after awhile some people got tired of hearing so much about one particular artist.

I've also said I feel that at times other lesser known artists get passed over when there are several topics about bigger acts (eg several AC/DC threads around at the moment). So now I'm thinking that if there was one thread for each artist it would make the other artists section of the forum more managable.

To me this has several benefits. When you wish to comment on a band sometimes there can be several threads open, if none of them quite fit, its tempting to create another one. If there is only one thread for the band, the alocation is quite simple. For the moderators (who do a great job!) this section will be easier to moderate.  Another benefit would be that we would see more artists listed at anyone time. We would be able to avoid threads of artists that we do not like easier.  Finally with less threads appearing in other artists, we can bring the attention back to Joe in the rest of the forum. As Jim has pointed out:

jim m wrote:

Different forums handle things in different ways. On the John Mayer Forum. One artist one thread. Better not start a new one or it gets deleted.

I'm used to this policy on other forums too (some do not have other artist sections at all!). Maybe now might be the time for us to introduce a similar policy here. One suggestion would be that we could close all current discussions on the other artists section at a certain date.  The older posts will still be visible and can be located through the search facilty, however when we wish to make a comment on another artist, a new thread is created with just the name of that artist. Providing we stick to it, it could work well.

Naturally I would also suggest we would keep the excellent "What song are you listening to right now?" thread open. It is great thread for putting clips of music others may not have heard!

I suspect many of you will think we do not need to take this course. Jim himself states we are much more laid back here, at the moment.  Others may feel the time is now. All opinions welcome.

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Re: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

I dunno...if I don't want to read about a particular artist, I don't open the thread. If people want to pay more attention to Joe, then don't go to the Other Artists forum.

IMO more laid back is better. This forum is perfect the way it is...more rules, a more rigid forum, is a turn off to me.

I don't think less attention is being paid to Joe.  He IS the reason we're all here.

smile

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Re: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

Read the posting guidelines......that is a policy here. We've just not enforced it yet, but its coming.

“A friend is someone that will help you move............a TRUE friend will help you move the bodies." -- anon

Re: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

All I Got To Say about it is Whatever this is a great FORUM and i would hate to see it moderated to death the mods here do a great  job and have give'n  us all a pass or two on some of the rules from time to time out of all the artist forums out there this one is the best moderated that i can think of and I enjoy coming here not just because Joe is so amazing but because its fair and for the most part the people here are good peeps now that i'm off topic I'll say thanks for the good work

Peace
Bluezman

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Re: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

Hmmm ... it would be nice to avoid these double-posts and similar topics in different threads, that´s true. But it would also get a little more complicated communicating within these threads - for example if someone wants to discuss the new AC/DC album on Monday and someone else wants to talk about one of their shows and someone else maybe wants to write about one of their previous albums etc. ... so "navigating" within the thread could be difficult. Especially with forum-favourites like BDS we would have a 50 pages thread in no time I guess wink.

But it´s definitely something worth thinking about. Maybe we should all just keep our eyes open while posting our topics and take care that something similar hasn´t been posted before - I´m taking Jane´s part now by saying: "use the search function"! wink

Eva

Re: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

Yes, its difficult to manage and navigate.

Eva, your suggestion (jane's?) about using search is good though; I think the biggest issue is only things that are repeated. It's done unintentionally but when you have many users sometimes they post the same thoughts (or very close) at different times and different places.

We do like letting the forum flow, with as little active moderation as possible and will strive to keep it that way.

PC

“A friend is someone that will help you move............a TRUE friend will help you move the bodies." -- anon

Re: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

I think the Forum is perfect like it is. It would be a big loss to concentrate only on Joe. You can´t seperate Joe from the rest of the (Blues)world. He is surely a unique artist, but he is also embedded in tradition and the present Blues landscape.
And it´s fascinating to see, from which directions people have found Joe, and what they accept as compatible with his music.
I think the one artist/one thread approach would be too formal. I like it more when a system is grown organically. And as it did grow nicely, there is no need for change.
Günter

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Re: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

Leave it as is.

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Re: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

Mindy wrote:

I dunno...if I don't want to read about a particular artist, I don't open the thread. If people want to pay more attention to Joe, then don't go to the Other Artists forum.

IMO more laid back is better. This forum is perfect the way it is...more rules, a more rigid forum, is a turn off to me.

I don't think less attention is being paid to Joe.  He IS the reason we're all here.

smile

I pretty much agree with this. There are plenty of bands whose music I don't care for. When they come along I just don't read them - simple really.

I have also pointed out the usefulness of the search facility for avoiding unnecessary repetition or a whole bunch of topics basically about the same band. When I have something to add to 'my' Bonnie Raitt or Little Feat topics I just look for them, find them, and post on them again. I more or less already practice what is being suggested here. I think that as long as people are reasonable, exercise some common sense, and are able to maintain a sense of proportion (unlike a certain departed poster), then we're fine as we are.

George

RIP Iron Man

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Re: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

Yes. Can you imagine if we had 480 individual Haiku poems scattered on the forum......as opposed to them being all (mostly) in one thread?

cool

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Re: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

Oooh, I'm so tempted to haiku this but I wont wink

We're all here because of Joe but even the main man has a passion for other peoples music. It's good to get the occasional heads-up on something that we may not have heard of else where. I don't think it takes anything away from Joe's music to discuss other musicians on here. Surely it's our love of fine music that brought us all here in the first place and that love should be on-going. If, as a result of that, we are sometimes led into each others personal triumphs and disasters then so be it.

There's a lot of love and compassion on here and I think that is what helps to keep this place (usually) sane. There's also a healthy dose of humour (sometimes misplaced I suppose) that makes this a cool place to visit.

Strange that Jim quoted the John Mayer thread as an example.....whenever I mention John Mayer on here the thread gets closed down. Funny old world isn't it.

Geoff

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never grow old, never ever die young

Re: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

Funny, meaning peculiar not ha ha.....right?

“A friend is someone that will help you move............a TRUE friend will help you move the bodies." -- anon

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Re: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

It means (I think) strange how things work out sometimes. There was a football player, and I do mean football wink, who used to say 'it's a funny old game'....I think what he meant was that he was rarely surprised, never shocked but never confident that the expected would actually take place. Funny isn't always actually funny but it can raise a wry smile from time to time in so far as the outcome of an event doesn't offend but does cause the inward laughter that satisfies only the 'laughee' (is that a new word?) I suppose it can also mean 'coincidence' coincidentally. Hope that clears that up big_smile

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Re: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

You Brits have better memories than me. I think I vaguely remeber an incident but the details are fuzzy. Whatever it was I'm sure I thought it was a good idea at the time smile

Re: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

What if there was a way to catagorize the other artist thread? ie. New acts(up and coming)
and Established acts(great to see them again) or Whatever happened to them(?). Just a thought. It definatly sounds like more work for Jim and Phil.

Hi Jim and Phil,
FW

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Re: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

The only problem I have with the idea is that often we are posting about an upcoming show vs. just discussing a band. Those posts are time sensitive and could get lost in a general band thread.   Cathy

Re: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

Well folks,

Thanks for your contributions to this debate to date. There appears to be broad agreement that self moderation is the preferred way to go. We all need to make sure this works together though.  While I do see benefits to one artist one thread, this would perhaps make the forum more restricted.  The section does work best though when nearly every thread is about a different artist, old and new!

When it comes to lengthy reviews of other bands, I would suggest that we look to put these on the forums of the artists concerned rather than on Joe's forum (we can always provide a link).

If you look at the first page of this topic linked below, you will see that this is something that I'd proposed back in July in respect of Back Door Slam:

http://www.jbonamassa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=6739

As we've seen, saturation of the other artists section of the forum can lead to a back lash, and I really hope we'll not see another conversation like that again.

Cheers smile

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Re: Is it time for One Artist, One Thread?

Yes, that is the preferred and OK method. Post the lengthy review on the other artists forum and link from here.

“A friend is someone that will help you move............a TRUE friend will help you move the bodies." -- anon