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Topic: Is 'Guitar Hero' saving rock 'n' roll?

Metallica's Lars Ulrich loves Black Sabbath and Deep Purple -- and so does his 10-year-old son.

Ulrich may have played songs from those old rock bands around the house on his stereo, but he gives credit for his son's excitement to another source: video games.

Myles Ulrich is a fan of games such as "Guitar Hero" and "Rock Band," which have spawned a comeback for rock music.

"It's a cool generational thing to share that with your kids," said Ulrich, the drummer for the multi-platinum quartet. "My [son's] favorite bands are ... the same bands that are my favorite bands -- the bands I grew up on."

A few years ago, rock music was struggling on the charts. With hip-hop and teen pop ruling, rock was finding it hard to break through with new music -- or sell more of the old.

But "Guitar Hero" and "Rock Band" have prompted kids born in the '90s to discover artists from the '70s and '80s such as Aerosmith, Twisted Sister and Pat Benatar. The games' amazing popularity -- last year, the two brought in more than $935 million in revenue, according to the NPD Group market research company -- has helped create success in other markets, according to observer Geoff Mayfield, senior analyst and director of charts for Billboard magazine, said he sees a direct cause-and-effect for some of the artists who have licensed their songs to "Guitar Hero."

"A few weeks ago, when the game featuring Aerosmith ['Guitar Hero: Aerosmith'] came out, there was more than a 40 percent increase in their catalog sales. I expect you'll see that again when Metallica gets the same kind of treatment in a few weeks," Mayfield said.

Once wary of downloading, Metallica has changed its tune with its upcoming album.

"When 'Death Magnetic' comes out in September, you can actually download the new album the same day it comes out, and play it on your 'Guitar Hero III,' " Ulrich said -- fully aware of the irony, given his band's past litigation with the Internet music file-sharing service Napster.

Even in an uncertain economy, the video games also have increased interest in guitars, according to the nationwide Guitar Center chain. And bars holding "Guitar Hero" nights also have enjoyed a boost in business: Big Wangs sports tavern in Hollywood, California, reports a 25 percent to 35 percent increase in sales.

The results have played out at such places as Roosevelt High School in Los Angeles, where most teens have grown up on a steady diet of hip-hop and R&B.

Recently, heavy metal blared from the school's darkened auditorium as it sponsored a three-day "Guitar Hero Face-Off." Spotlights illuminated the competitors, and an audience full of enthusiasts screamed wildly at the end of each song.

It was enough to make 16-year-old finalist George Gomez nervous. "You got fans cheering you on," he marveled shyly.

For Mayfield, the marriage of music and video games makes perfect sense, especially for an ailing record industry that's been having trouble selling CDs.

"This is a chance for something that's been a competition to actually be an ally, if you will," he said.


Mayfield has never played "Guitar Hero" or "Rock Band," but he said he understands the irresistible appeal of kids and adults indulging in some harmless headbanging -- albeit with toy instruments.

"If you've ever played air guitar, more than likely, you weren't doing it to a Michael Jackson song. You were doing it to an Aerosmith song," he said.

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Re: Is 'Guitar Hero' saving rock 'n' roll?

I have seen my friends get into Black Sabbath, SRV, ZZ Top, and Boston because of Guitar Hero. People can say what they want, but this is getting kids interested in that music. All of that crap of "they should play real guitar" is just bogus. Look, Guitar Hero and Rock Band is a social thing, getting together and have some fun. Learning an instrument takes a lot of dedication and desire, something that a whole lot of these people don't want to do. But by doing Guitar Hero, they're at least being exposed to all of this great music. And that is a good thing. Nobody can tell me different. I've seen a guy go from listening to Good Charlotte to Led Zeppelin in a year because of Guitar Hero. That wouldn't have happened without it.

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I'm thinking some enterprising soul should develop "Blues Hero". featuring Albert, Freddie, B.B., Billy Gibbons, SRV, Clapton and of course, Joe..;)

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Re: Is 'Guitar Hero' saving rock 'n' roll?

if it gets kids into good bands it can't be bad.  no i don't think it is saving rock.  i was into all those bands before guitar hero existed, but definitely give credit where it is due.  another good thing about it is it inspires some to pick up the real thing and that can never be bad.  almost never.  should be that way anyway

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Re: Is 'Guitar Hero' saving rock 'n' roll?

my stepson thought it was funny that he could play "Pride and Joy" on GH and I couldn't.  I grabbed a guitar from the wall and handed it to him and told him to go for it.

I'd like to see him make some money and meet some women playing guitar hero...wait a minute...this is 2008, he might in the future.

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alabamakid wrote:

my stepson thought it was funny that he could play "Pride and Joy" on GH and I couldn't.  I grabbed a guitar from the wall and handed it to him and told him to go for it.

I'd like to see him make some money and meet some women playing guitar hero...wait a minute...this is 2008, he might in the future.

Teen quits school to be Guitar Hero

Blake Peebles, 16, from North Carolina, is such a devotee of the hugely popular game Guitar Hero that he convinced his parents to let him drop out of school to focus on playing wireless guitars in front of a computer.


Peebles has had a degree of success already as a virtual guitarist; prizes he has won to date include gift certificates, gaming equipment and chicken sandwiches.


The 16-year-old dropped out of North Raleigh Christian Academy in the hope that he could earn up to $80,000 (about £43,000) a year.


However, he will need to secure sponsorship and be placed first in competitions if he is to meet this target.


Guitar Hero was first released in 2005 for the PlayStation 2. Since then, several new versions of the multi-billion dollar game have been released and endorsed by rock legends such as Aerosmith.


Players don't need any knowledge of how to play a guitar in order to play the video game. Flashing lights tell you where to hit the frets on your guitar which correspond with notes displayed on the screen.


In the US Guitar Hero nights, where players 'rock off' against each, have become popular at bars and clubs.


One commenter on the NME website wrote that games like Guitar Hero are focusing young peoples' attentions away from learning to play real musical instruments.


"It's a concern that kids will become so obsessed with these games that the concept of playing a real guitar will be far too much effort for them and that will lead to less bands starting up," the poster wrote.

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Re: Is 'Guitar Hero' saving rock 'n' roll?

I'll be honest.....I used to yell at my kids to go outside and do somethin'.....play stick ball, kick the can, anything.....but enough with the video games!!

OK, so maybe I didn't think it all the way through.....


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Re: Is 'Guitar Hero' saving rock 'n' roll?

Deezer wrote:

I have seen my friends get into Black Sabbath, SRV, ZZ Top, and Boston because of Guitar Hero. People can say what they want, but this is getting kids interested in that music. All of that crap of "they should play real guitar" is just bogus. Look, Guitar Hero and Rock Band is a social thing, getting together and have some fun. Learning an instrument takes a lot of dedication and desire, something that a whole lot of these people don't want to do. But by doing Guitar Hero, they're at least being exposed to all of this great music. And that is a good thing. Nobody can tell me different. I've seen a guy go from listening to Good Charlotte to Led Zeppelin in a year because of Guitar Hero. That wouldn't have happened without it.

I agree with you, Deezer.  The social, fun part that makes it cool to like classic rock is part of getting the mainstream to turn back in the direction of good music.  When the demand appears, supply will be created to fill it.  And Joe stands to be a huge beneficiary of this phenomenon.

And while some small percentage of kids will become obsessed with the video game, I have a hard time believing that the vast majority of those would otherwise be real guitarists.  They'd probably be playing Grand Theft Auto or some other video game, otherwise.  It's all good IMO.

Re: Is 'Guitar Hero' saving rock 'n' roll?

Better to be rocking out to Smoke On The Water, than to be shooting some gangster so you can steal a Rolls Royce and drive it through a mall. Or something like that. big_smile

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I don't play Guitar Hero, but I've had more fun watching folks anywhere from 10 years old to 46 years old play it. lol  Now, that's entertainment!!!  My sister was hysterical, she wouldn't quit until she improved her score to gain some respect with one of her 10 year old twins, who is a wicked good guitar player!  Her husband is really strict and his thinking is no video games in the house, anyway, I had her a little talking to...its not gangster bad crap and not going to corrupt her children, IMHO.  I think after seeing how much fun it was, her kids will be getting it for Christmas!  We have lots of overnight guests visiting in the summer and Guitar Hero seems to be the downtime entertainer and substitute over TV, which is a positive, IMO.  It's all good, its a game and I know there are lots of kids, including the 16 year old girl category, who would of otherwise NEVER been introduced to some of the songs!  Some of the teen boys who are guitar players won't play in front of others, since they can play the real song better on a real guitar...I wouldn't be surprised if they fiddle with GH when no one's around...that just cracks me up! big_smile

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Re: Is 'Guitar Hero' saving rock 'n' roll?

Well I guess playing a pretend guitar is better than shooting a pretend gun.. but I still think it's a stupid idea! Why bother spending a loada money on an guitar hero set when you could get a basic guitar and amp and learn to play real guitar? It seems totally pointless to me, I really don't understand it at all! If kids can press buttons in time to some music, why not actually learn to play the music for real? Surely there's a greater sense of achievement knowing you can actually play an instrument than just pretend to play one. It makes me sad that there are some people in the world more passionate about virtual guitars than real ones... I say down with video games!

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rarr:) wrote:

Well I guess playing a pretend guitar is better than shooting a pretend gun.. but I still think it's a stupid idea! Why bother spending a loada money on an guitar hero set when you could get a basic guitar and amp and learn to play real guitar? It seems totally pointless to me, I really don't understand it at all! If kids can press buttons in time to some music, why not actually learn to play the music for real? Surely there's a greater sense of achievement knowing you can actually play an instrument than just pretend to play one. It makes me sad that there are some people in the world more passionate about virtual guitars than real ones... I say down with video games!

I've said it before and I'll say it again and again, trust me, not everyone wants to play real guitar. Guitar Hero has kinda become the new air guitar. What, should those guys who play air guitar go out and buy a real one? Come on, it's supposed to be a fun thing to do with your friends. My friends don't like it as much when they come into my room and all I'm doing is jamming out. But when we go somewhere, and there's Guitar Hero or Rock Band, EVERYBODY'S having a good time. There's no sense of achievement, there's no trying to better yourself spiritually, or whatever. It's just a good time. You know, instead of going out to bars and drinking, people could go home and help a starving child, ect. But guess what, going out and drinking is a heck of a lot more fun.

I swear, I just don't get that argument...

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My friends think it's funny that I can't play songs on Guitar Hero that I can on a real guitar. At first I didn't really like the idea. I also thought that it would be time better spent learning a real instrument. However, having tried it at a party, it does make sense. It's a good laugh with a few mates. It also means we get to listen to some decent music for a change at friends houses too. Bonus!

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I was away for the weekend, and at the hotel, two young boys walked by me.  They must have been about 11 or so.  As they passed me, I overheard them talking.  One said to the other, "I can't wait to get Guitar Hero Aerosmith".

Surprised the heck out of me, but then I thought it was SO cool. 

I wondered what the chances of these kids knowing about Aerosmith were w/o Guitar Hero.

I think it's a good thing...better than say, "Rap Hero".  smile

Don't know if anyone posted this yet...these professional musicians giving Rock Band a go.  lol


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