Topic: question for y'all about autographs

i mean absolutly no ill will with this, but what is the fascination about having someone's autograph on something, be it a baseball , baseball card, or a les paul autographed by joe b. himself

in my 30 years i have never cared to seek out an autograph, simply meeting the person is enough for me, even though if i met joe or whoever ,he wouldn't remember or really even give it a thought about meeting me shortly thereafter, i seriously doubt that a few weeks later joe will be sitting there over his morning coffee thinking of how that guy he met at the gig a month ago is doing

point in case: i went to the driving range a few weeks ago, and saw a detroit red wing there right next to me also hitting golf balls, i looked up he looked up and we made eye contact, so i said are you so and so, he said yes, i shook his hand, said nice to meet you that was it i went back to hitting balls, he stood there for a second rather taken aback that i didn't ask him to sign something, i mean for god's sake he was there with his daughter, i don't want to interrupt his time with her to have him scribble his name on something

i understand the fascination of a kid meeting one of his heros and getting an autograph, but i can't figure out why an adult would want something signed, what does it matter?

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Why do some people collect baseball cards? Why do some people collect stamps or coins? Like a friend once commented, that's why they make chocolate AND vanilla. Different strokes for different folks, brother. I'm sure there are other folks here who couldn't care less about autographs, while others enjoy collecting them.

Personally, I do have some JB autographed merch. I've also got ticket stubs from various artists stuck inside some CD covers. Just something that adds an extra memory to an event. I compare it to taking a picture. Sure, visiting the grand canyon is enough for some folks. Others like to take a photograph, pick up a postcard or maybe a refrigerator magnet. I don't think an autograph is substantially different?

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Very thought-provoking question!  I am of the camp that is compelled to get things autographed, and I've never seriously considered why I enjoy it; only that I do.  Certainly, artists are probably on autopilot when they sign autographs and other than conceptually it may not meaningful to them. For the fan, though, the experience of getting an autograph adds a little extra something to the pleasant memory of the show and to the item itself.  That signature is a link to the person you sought the autograph from and to the show at which you got it.  In the grand scheme of things, it may not matter much--but what matters is a matter of opinion.

"The Blues is like a tonic for all that ails you."  BB King

Rock ON & Keep the Faith!

4 (edited by photogal 2006-08-23 18:33:36)

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I agree Melissa!

To me, it is a way the artist acknowledges the fact that they have fans.

Rhonda

"I don't think obsessions have reasons, that's why they're obsessions....National Geographic likes their pictures in focus..." Robert Kincaid

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I love collecting autographs of my favorite musicians on merchandise that they made (or was made about them ~ magazine articles, photos, etc.).  I have signed stuff from Joe (tons of stuff), Mike Portnoy, SRV, Joe Satriani, Ronnie Montrose, Steve Vai, Gary Hoey, Eric Sardinas, Andy Timmons, Yngwie Malmsteen, John Petrucci, Neal Morse, Shannon Curfman, Aerosmith (except the 2 guitarists which couldn't be bothered to come to the aftershow), Kansas, Stuart Hamm, and all of the touring members of Joe's bands since Bloodline.  Hopefully I'll be able to add Mato Nanji when I see Indigenous in October.  I also try collect sinatures of my favorite authors (those that I CAN get ~ George RR Martin, Dan Simmons, Clive Barker).  To me having signed (often personalized) CDs & books makes them all the more special to me.  Books & music are the only 2 things I really collect.  I'd NEVER sell anything, so I don't care about what they could someday be worth.  When I have had people sign things they usually seem appreciative of the fact that I support them by buying their stuff.  One of these daze I'll pass them all on to whichever of my children that will pass them on to their children one day.

"Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity"  unknown

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I like this topic.

I don't get the autograph thing either. When you ask someone for an autograph, you're grovelling, putting them up on a pedestal and putting yourself on a lower level of the social ladder. Your favorite celebrity wouldn't want your autograph, why would you want theirs? Are they better than you? Do they have some sort of divine penmanship? It's like a form of worship, to say to someone that you'll cherish something that they scribbled on.

The photo thing too. When you ask for your photo with a celebrity, its like you're using them as some sort of prop, like getting your photo in front of the Eiffel Tower or Mickey Mouse. You do not look like you're "hanging out" with said celebrity in that photo, you look like you said, "hey, can I get my photo with you?"

I don't get it. I refuse to acknowledge another human being like they're better than me and waste their time by asking for an autograph.

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i understand the fascination of a kid meeting one of his heros and getting an autograph, but i can't figure out why an adult would want something signed, what does it matter?

at what point do we grow up? and I'm 30...I can't have a hero?

Meeting Warren Haynes, getting a pic and an autograph was wayyyyyyy up on the coolest things(musically) I've done...I've met Joe twice and he's up there too

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I'd rather have my picture taken with you, SG wink

Blues ain't nothin' but a good woman gone bad.

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All-Original SG wrote:

I like this topic.

I don't get the autograph thing either. When you ask someone for an autograph, you're grovelling, putting them up on a pedestal and putting yourself on a lower level of the social ladder. Your favorite celebrity wouldn't want your autograph, why would you want theirs? Are they better than you? Do they have some sort of divine penmanship? It's like a form of worship, to say to someone that you'll cherish something that they scribbled on.

The photo thing too. When you ask for your photo with a celebrity, its like you're using them as some sort of prop, like getting your photo in front of the Eiffel Tower or Mickey Mouse. You do not look like you're "hanging out" with said celebrity in that photo, you look like you said, "hey, can I get my photo with you?"

I don't get it. I refuse to acknowledge another human being like they're better than me and waste their time by asking for an autograph.

Personally, I do it to make Joe feel good. Can you imagine him sitting there after a show with his pen, and nobody asking him to sign something??
Seriously, though...before Joe, I only had one autograph in my adult life. I met an older guy in a bar in downtown Chicago and wound up talking with him for a couple hours. It took me about a half hour to figure out that he was Al Lewis (Grandpa from the Munsters). Great guy...I got his autograph before I left because I wasn't sure my friends would believe me. I threw it out about 2 years later because I didn't know what else to do with it. The memory was what was important.
My second time seeing Joe, I bought 2 cd's and was just hanging out with a few people after the show when I realized people were waiting in line to meet Joe. I wanted to let him know how much I enjoyed the show and as I got nearer, I noticed Joe was signing stuff for almost everyone...so I had him sign my cd's, but I never recall groveling.

"Rock ON & Keep the Faith"

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I usually don't ask for autographs, in fact I met Joe probably 4 or 5 times before I got anything signed, and even then it was something Joe gave me to give my son which he signed, but not for me.

I don't know why I don't care for getting autographs, I'd just rather say hello, give a handshake and talk for a minute or two (or longer, which I've been lucky enough to do with joe a few times) and be on my way. 

It's just not a big deal to me, but I understand why it would be for other fans.. I may not collect autographs, but I do like to collect Joe's red guitar picks he uses during the show! smile  It's different for everyone....

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Here's another side to this topic.....I saw John Fogerty in Chicago on August 20th...I have waited 36 years to see him in action and I was totally fulfilled.  Before going to the concert I stopped and picked up a bouquet of flowers to give to him.  I explained to the security guy at the stage that I have been a long time fan and I would dearly love to give the flowers to John.  He said, "You pick your song and come on down and we'll see what we can do."  I chose Lodi...headed to the stage after the first three notes...found my security guy...when the song was over he handed them to John.  John stopped the show and stared at the flowers with a look of wonder, smelled them....looked over at me, walked away from the mike and the spotlight and came over to me and said, "What's your name?"  I told him Patty and he smiled the biggest grin and thanked me, walked back over to the mike and said to the crowd as he was holding the flowers up, "Hey, everybody these are from Patty..."silly sentimental me crying, blowing him a kiss and telling him I loved him...him smiling back.....One of his biggest fans who has been to 47 shows said that he had never seen John so moved during a concert......I just wanted to thank him in a small way for all the wonderfulness of his music and I came away with the thought that he is always giving to the fans and it was nice to be on the receiving end.....I expected nothing in return, but ended up with a very emotional filled memory of a moment shared in time.Whether he remembers it 2 days or a year from now doesn't really matter as we can only really live in the moment....I think it is a nice experience for the artist to be on the receiving end, too.

"I'm not nice to any guitar!"      lol
                 Joe Bonamassa 05-03-12

JBLP CHILD #184

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Stu Craig wrote:

Personally, I do have some JB autographed merch. I've also got ticket stubs from various artists stuck inside some CD covers. Just something that adds an extra memory to an event. I compare it to taking a picture. Sure, visiting the grand canyon is enough for some folks. Others like to take a photograph, pick up a postcard or maybe a refrigerator magnet. I don't think an autograph is substantially different?

dead on...it's for me, not the autographer...of course they won't remember signing something for "Joe Blow" in Podunk Alabama, but Joe will remember that person and will buy records/be a fan for a long time to come

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I never really thought about it till you asked. 

I think I actually started getting autographs from sports figures.  Mostly locally.   I like to get autographs because I didn't think I would ever meet the person.  And especially for the wonderful memories thay have given me. 

One that means the most to me is Jim Plunkett - Quarterback, and Dave Dalby - Center for the Oakland Raiders.   Jim Plunkett is my favorite football player and the reason I wanted his and Dave's autograph is for all the thrilling moments they gave me as a Raider fan.   I got their autograph on my Raider jacket that I would wear to the games.   After they signed my jacket I put it on the wall so I can see the autographs and all the special memories that jacket and autographs bring back.   I was gonna get other autographs from the players of that era on it.  But sadly,  Dave Dalby, who was the Raider's center for 14 years, passed away in an auto accident.  That is when I decided to permantely retire the Jacket to the wall  with just their autographs, Dave Dalby and Jim Plunkett, Center to Quarterback.

"Holy Toledo"  -  Bill King   "Just Win Baby" - Al Davis  "The Autumn Wind" - Steve Sabol

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Here's the deal on the autograph thing. I'd rather have a CD signed than a photo of me with the artist. It's a great reminder of the moment.

If I don't have a CD for them to sign, a ticket stub or photograph I took of them. Or an article I wrote about them. It's my little connection to the artist. It's my acknowledgement of their impact on my life. I value their squiggly lines indicating their name and the moment they took to talk with me.

Al Kooper, formerly of Blood Sweat and Tears, I forgot my CDs and the one remaining album I have and ended up asking him to sign my ticket stub as I told him how much I appreciated the music he gave me over the years, how much I loved that evening's show, how much I appreciated his time. His signature probably won't mean a damn thing to anyone else in my circle of friends, but it's priceless to me.

What does the artist get? Positive feedback? Ego stroking? Whatever it is, they're willing and many of their fans are willing to ask.

For kids - my son has autographs from Marines, writers, musicians, a politician or two, actors, sports figures, and even a magician. If he admires someone, he asks for an autograph. It's his moment to commemorate and later in life, he can look at his collection of memorabilia and hopefully, remember all the details.

The blues isn't about a look or a specific sound, the blues is something deep within. But the sound doesn't hurt things, you know? ~ Ben Hernandez

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My take on autographs is a little different. In the past I used autograph items as motivational booster.

For the past 25 years I have photographed many pro sport venues and met a lot of champions and fan favorites.
I am in the mix and many times I have gotten autographs, shirts, gear, ... ect. (you get the point).

To date I have never saved any for myself - but instead used to motivate people. (younger ones mostly)
eg; Let's say Blair Morgan, Doug Henry or John Dowd is your hero. I would take that autographed shirt / photo and use it as a prize or reward when they reach a certin goal we have set. Like win a race if they have been finishing 4th or 5th.

When I tell you over the years that makes a huge impact on a younger person.

Now I photograph some Joe shows and ... yes I have six photos that I have kept for myself.
Why ?  I guess to hang in the bar room someday. Maybe just to say - those are my pics and the autograph just shows that I spent a moment with him. It's crazy - I never saved any other performer/athlete before.

I also send Joe pic's to clubs or radio that promote Joes' work.
In club enviroment, it shows that the performer/celebrity has been there. Plus it's cool decorations.

Well - That's my take and I am standing behind it

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I collect music and when I can get an autograph from an artist, I'll try and get it, especially of their new release.  I really don't beat my chest and and say it was a huge triumph.  It's a keepsake and a memory of the moment, nothing more than that.

I did get Neil Peart's autpgraph (from Rush) and I will say in that was an achievement.  He appreciates the fans, but if you read the words to "Limelight", he can't pretend a stranger is a long lost friend. 

Joe's great about signing things and since I have his whole catalog autographed, I will likely continue to try and get him to sign future releases of his that I have purchased. I can't stop now!

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my motivation for starting this topic was a post on another board i frequent talking about the celebrity worship and how it's wrong, i tend to agree with that, celebrities are no different than you or i, they just have slightly cooler jobs than i do

to use joe as a reference only because it's his message board, but i doubt if joe goes into the local chevy dealership looks at a corvette and say to himself "man, i really want to meet the guy who designed this center console"

i design car parts, joe plays guitar in a band, they're both jobs to us, only one is slightly cooler than the other one


i hope someday to meet joe , because i enjoy meeting people, only to tell him i really enjoy his music and he's really good at what he does

Re: question for y'all about autographs

The RiverCat^-^ wrote:

I never really thought about it till you asked. 

I think I actually started getting autographs from sports figures.  Mostly locally.   I like to get autographs because I didn't think I would ever meet the person.  And especially for the wonderful memories thay have given me. 

One that means the most to me is Jim Plunkett - Quarterback, and Dave Dalby - Center for the Oakland Raiders.   Jim Plunkett is my favorite football player and the reason I wanted his and Dave's autograph is for all the thrilling moments they gave me as a Raider fan.   I got their autograph on my Raider jacket that I would wear to the games.   After they signed my jacket I put it on the wall so I can see the autographs and all the special memories that jacket and autographs bring back.   I was gonna get other autographs from the players of that era on it.  But sadly,  Dave Dalby, who was the Raider's center for 14 years, passed away in an auto accident.  That is when I decided to permantely retire the Jacket to the wall  with just their autographs, Dave Dalby and Jim Plunkett, Center to Quarterback.

Hey River Cat...no autograph of Dave Caspar? Even though I'm a Bears fan, he had the best pair of hands I've ever seen in the NFL, and is my all time favorite TE.

"Rock ON & Keep the Faith"