Topic: Sunday Times article about the blues

This was in yesterday's Sunday Times.

I thought it may be of interest/raise a discussion etc.  It makes some contentious suggestions

Blues is the poor relation of roots music. Its brethren, folk and country, are reviving left, right and centre, but blues, if not quite the genre time forgot, is a tradition most of us are forgetting. Why?

One reason is that it’s so fundamental to rock (where would the Rolling Stones be without Muddy Waters?), we no longer hear its echo; another is that even its newest stars are often old-timers. Seasick Steve, a sixty-something, poor-white rambler, has made the most waves lately. Before him, it was T-Model Ford, one of the outlaw OAPs discovered by the enthusiastic Fat Possum label and still doing their thang in rural Missis-sippi. The original bluesmen are a rich seam of coal; once spent, damn hard to replace.

A lot of modern blues falls down by being too slick. BB King, Buddy Guy and Robert Cray are as guilty as their white imitators of the kind of showy soloing that puts fret-boarding before feeling. For all his pyrotechnics, Jimi Hendrix, a bluesman to his core, never made that mistake. Even in his day, though, the number of young black musicians playing blues was declining, as culture moved on. Today, hip-hop makes the older guys into heritage attractions, and the likes of Keb’ Mo’ seem almost anomalous.

Blues now is in some unexpected places. Like Bridgend, South Wales, home to the genre’s equivalent of Kerrang!, Blues Matters. Alongside trad and neo-blues acts, it features blues-influenced indie bands such as the White Stripes and the Black Keys. The latter’s new album, the superb Attack & Release, finds the Ohio duo anchored in early 1970s British blues-rock. Then there is Lake Elmo, Minnesota, host to the Deep Blues festival, a powwow of America’s punk-blues underground from July 18-20 (its MySpace page has a handy who’s who).

And finally, try Mali, via the Barbican. This month’s Blues: Back to the Source concert explores links between the Deep South and West Africa, with Otis Taylor and ngoni ace Bassekou Kouyate. Taylor’s excellent new album, Recapturing the Banjo, reclaims the instrument’s black, slave-era history but is no museum piece. The music is fresh and compelling, and his own material keenly felt. Add to that his educational work in American schools, and Taylor is the strongest advocate the blues, in its classic form, has.

The mainstream still tips its hat to the genre when seeking credibility, as the blonde soul hopeful Beth Rowley does with Nobody’s Fault but Mine. It will take more than sweet covers of Blind Willie Johnson, however, to keep blues going. Maybe Cadillac Records, the movie now in development about the Chess label, which stars Beyoncé as Etta James and Jeffrey Wright as Muddy Waters, will inspire someone to shake things up; or maybe we just have to broaden our terms. Arguably, Gnarls Barkley’s Crazy was the best blues song in years, so perhaps the blues flame is already being kept alive in different – sometimes radically different – ways in the 21st century. What do some of its proponents think?

"The recently formed Edinburgh Blues Club has identified an appetite for the personal communication between musicians and audience that the blues long ago perfected." The Herald Newspaper (Scotland)
http://www.edinburgh-blues.uk

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Dan Auerbach

Vocalist/guitarist, the Black Keys

“We can’t use the word ‘blues’ any more, it’s too far down the line. It applied to a couple of decades, but styles have branched out, overlapped and intertwined. Even Junior Kimbrough [the late Fat Possum artist] wasn’t really playing blues. Growing up, he listened to Al Green and rockabilly. Today, Eli “Paperboy” Reed and the True Loves are awesome, but theirs is a throwback sound. People should stop worrying about categori-sation and just go with it; that’s what we do.

Blues is my foundation, but as for making the true music, that’s gone.”

Otis Taylor

Trance-blues/banjo maestro

“Right now, there’s a revolution going on, but people aren’t walking with signs. It’s not just one person, one label or one promoter; it’s about festivals such as the Chicago, Cisco Ottawa and Telluride, and musicians such as Alvin Youngblood Hart, Corey Harris and Chris Thomas King. Some people don’t like it that I push the blues envelope, but Taj Mahal once said to me, ‘Otis, never stop doing what you’re doing!’ ”

Darren Howells

Editor-in-chief, Blues Matters

“There’s always a sense of menace with the greatest bluesmen. Ian Siegal has it, and I can’t think of any other British blues artist who’s ever had it. His vocals have an authority and sway that’s lacking in British music generally. His powerful covers are worthy of high praise, but it’s his original material, married to his intimidating persona, that gives me hope he can transcend the blues circuit and make a broader impression. Swagger, his current album, says it all.”

Beth Rowley

Singer-songwriter “

Martin Scorsese has done a great job of archiving the blues and bringing it to a wider audience. For me, it’s about emotion rather than going through the motions. The Blind Boys of Alabama haven’t had to change their music to attract large audiences – it’s so engaging. Tom Waits and Jack White are both steeped in the blues and have brought its emotion to a new audience.”

Charlie Dark

Blacktronica DJ/performance-poet

“A recent convert to long-distance running, I spend a lot of time buried in headphones, racking up the miles. My soundtrack has a healthy dose of dubstep, courtesy of my man Mala, from Digital Mystikz. It’s bass-heavy, future-blues music, with a nice touch of melodic experimentation – constantly evolving and pushing the boundaries, a direct reflection of our environment.”

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/ … 758139.ece

"The recently formed Edinburgh Blues Club has identified an appetite for the personal communication between musicians and audience that the blues long ago perfected." The Herald Newspaper (Scotland)
http://www.edinburgh-blues.uk

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"Arguably, Gnarls Barkley’s Crazy was the best blues song in years,".   Oh, really??? I don't think so.

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gsj wrote:

"Arguably, Gnarls Barkley’s Crazy was the best blues song in years,".   Oh, really??? I don't think so.

That's why he used "arguably". It's a journalistic trick, one that I use myself, that allows one to make an assertion without it being concrete.  big_smile wink

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The only thing that makes it worthy of comment is that it's not worthy of comment.

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deary me.... makes you wonder if he/she actually went out and listened or just wrote what other people are saying?

"A lot of modern blues falls down by being too slick. BB King, Buddy Guy and Robert Cray are as guilty as their white imitators of the kind of showy soloing that puts fret-boarding before feeling."

:x B.B. still makes me stop and listen when I hear him, actually he just stops me dead in what im doing so I can take it in..

"For all his pyrotechnics, Jimi Hendrix, a bluesman to his core, never made that mistake."

I always saw Jimi and still do as a Rock guitarist who played a few blues numbers, no arguing he played by feeling and had a hell of alot of it, but to me it sounds like the journalist jumped on a bandwagon I mean not many people would publicly slate hendrix?

And wheres the mention of Joe and John Mayer to me both of these guys are doing more for the blues scene then they ever get credit for... Lucky Joe has a good fan base tbh cause credit where credits due hes fantastic and Im still yet to see him live!!

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Maybe I haven't had enough caffeine yet this morning, but sometimes I wish folks would just enjoy the music and stop over analyzing everything!!  I skimmed the article, am I'm interpreting this right, this guy is dissing, B.B., Buddy Guy, Robert Cray, Keb' Mo'...???

I never thought about what genre "Crazy" was, child#2 turned me on to Gnarls...great song, don't know much about the rest of the album!  Keep in mind also, that the band's premise is entertainment along with the music, with the dressing up and everything.

On Sirius "Cup of Joe"- Joe has played the White Stripes a few times that I've heard and Joe has complimented Jack White's interpretation of the blues.  Some of it I get, some of it I'll never get, but that's just me...:)

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This upsets me too much to make a lot of sense yet..Was this in the New York Times?? That could explain the ignorance......I'm going to stew on this for a bit. Then I'll be sending some e-mails!!!!        Cathy  Blues/Rock Warrior

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cathysiler wrote:

This upsets me too much to make a lot of sense yet..Was this in the New York Times?? That could explain the ignorance......I'm going to stew on this for a bit. Then I'll be sending some e-mails!!!!        Cathy  Blues/Rock Warrior

No it was the - English Sunday times ,makes him a real expert on the blues (not).

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I don't get how Jack White gets mentioned, but Joe doesn't.....but then I also don't get The White Stripes as a whole anyhow. Don't see him as blues, just crap!! That's just my opinion anyway.

Sunday Times = contentious + pretentious

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PaulB74 wrote:

I don't get how Jack White gets mentioned, but Joe doesn't.....but then I also don't get The White Stripes as a whole anyhow. Don't see him as blues, just crap!! That's just my opinion anyway.

Sunday Times = contentious + pretentious

Sorry Paul dont agree Jack White is a good artist and has alot of good original blues numbers out aswell as some pretty cool stuff his take on jolene (which I saw incidentally was awesome). When the stripes hit it big I think they got alot of TV play (Q,MTV etc) they got alot of radio play too, I think it was mainly due to one song getting into everyones head specially kids and newer guitarists "Seven Nation Army" such a catchy song. Although I agree Joe doesnt get credit he deserves I dont agree with slating The White Stripes cuz imo and it is just an opinion Jack White is good and he deffo earned his way into my playlist.

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About Jack White and The White Stripes- Jack is a very talented guitarist, singer, songwriter...I like the Racounteurs style probably more than the White Stripes.  Seven Nation Army was catchy, I do like some Stripes stuff and the Stripes biggest following is younger folks, so he's got something, that on some cerebral level, I'm not totally connecting to...great that he's serving some of the younger generation the blues, even if they don't realize it!  I've had the "Jack White" conversation with my 2 sons, 17 & 18 years old, countless times...so this conversation feels like home!  Besides the band MUSE, Jack White is like the only artist my 18 year old listens to that's not from the 60-70's era.  Jack White has got something going on there, he's artsy, avant-garde...honestly, some stuff sounds like a very raw noise coming from my garage, but not in a band format... Maybe Jack White is like a Prince-type in some ways that people can't relate to...Jimmy Page even embraced Jack a few years ago and Jimmy Page is my 18 year-old's favorite guitar god!  By Jack White serving up his blues his way is overall good for Joe too...keeps people open-minded about the blues! IMO

I'm beginning to wonder why I even bothered to comment on this ridiculous article, as a whole... funny Keith about "arguably" and were you dissing Ringo a few weeks ago or was that my imagination? wink

John and Paul...keep it nice or I'll be singing you a Beatle song...:D

Can't leave out George, sidenote here- I thought the While My Guitar Gently Weeps from Across the Universe movie was killer bluesy done by the Jimi Hendrix dude! 

JohnTB wrote:
PaulB74 wrote:

I don't get how Jack White gets mentioned, but Joe doesn't.....but then I also don't get The White Stripes as a whole anyhow. Don't see him as blues, just crap!! That's just my opinion anyway.

Sunday Times = contentious + pretentious

Sorry Paul dont agree Jack White is a good artist and has alot of good original blues numbers out aswell as some pretty cool stuff his take on jolene (which I saw incidentally was awesome). When the stripes hit it big I think they got alot of TV play (Q,MTV etc) they got alot of radio play too, I think it was mainly due to one song getting into everyones head specially kids and newer guitarists "Seven Nation Army" such a catchy song. Although I agree Joe doesnt get credit he deserves I dont agree with slating The White Stripes cuz imo and it is just an opinion Jack White is good and he deffo earned his way into my playlist.

:x

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B.B. King showy? Ha.

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Anyone have the link to this article?  I'd love to e-mail this writer. 

Terrible article.  The writer needs to make more clear what his/her definition of blues is.  How can they call BB KING slick and flashy and then say that Gnarls Barkley could be considered the best blues song on the decade?  Thats insane.

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Im always nice!! big_smile While my guitar gently weeps is a beauty admittedly, and Angela your sons have taste, I consider Muse one of the most talented bands around atm Matt Bellamy (Muse's front man) really has his stuff going for him such a talented guy and one of the reasons I wanted to play music so much though I dont do anything like Muse.

Chris

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I think thats it

I replied about the article

"I think your article is totally mis-guided and I reckon you go listen to some blues, Like Joe Bonamassa...."

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I love that song by Gnarls, it's a great song. My band plays it, and I've heard we do a nice blues/rock interpretation of it. And the song is quite bluesy in the setup, it's just covered up by a bunch of effects and drums beats ect. When you strip it down it's pretty bluesy. But I still wouldn't call it a blues song. But you can take it and turn into something bluesy, that's for sure.

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that article made me laugh...

i can't believe he used BB, Buddy and Robert as examples of flashy playing...and on top of it EXCLUDED Hendrix (who was just as much flash as anyone you can think of) from that list...thats absurd!!!

and to say Gnarles Barkley's Crazy is the best blues song in years is even worse...what about John Mayer's Gravity? Thats more blues and soul than that overplayed, beaten-to-death pop song (unfortunately i've had to play it in 3 or 4 different bands i work with...godda pay the bills somehow) that gnarles put out...its got pop chord changes...it's not blues in the slightest...just because you can play the pentatonic scale over it doesn't make it blues...

my dog just took a big dump in my yard...i think i'll use that article to go clean it up now...

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vinceesquire wrote:

that article made me laugh...

i can't believe he used BB, Buddy and Robert as examples of flashy playing...and on top of it EXCLUDED Hendrix (who was just as much flash as anyone you can think of) from that list...thats absurd!!!

and to say Gnarles Barkley's Crazy is the best blues song in years is even worse...what about John Mayer's Gravity? Thats more blues and soul than that overplayed, beaten-to-death pop song (unfortunately i've had to play it in 3 or 4 different bands i work with...godda pay the bills somehow) that gnarles put out...its got pop chord changes...it's not blues in the slightest...just because you can play the pentatonic scale over it doesn't make it blues...

my dog just took a big dump in my yard...i think i'll use that article to go clean it up now...

I disagree with your opinion on the song, but that's your opinion, so whatever.

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