Random thoughts: music message boards vs. sports message boards (Page 1 of 3)

Oh man, the LLB board... I remember that. Who knew you could get banned for liking SRV? Crazy things.

Which I could answer your question though.  Maybe its just like the people differences.  Like on a sports board people maybe are of a certain type to be on there, where as music they just have to like the music? Not sure.

First of all, this is a complex enough topic that it would be good fodder for a lengthy masters thesis in social psychology and how it applies to the internet.  But in my opinion several factors are at work in general.  Sports is currently a primary secular religion.  This engages the emotions rather than the intellect.  Fans are partisans for their guys and their opinions.  I would suggest a strong parallel to religion and politics (but that's just my opinion).

Another factor is who owns and operates the website.  I'll bet that the guy running the Razorbacks website is a fan who wants to maximize his traffic and therefore his income.  In this sense, emotion is great for business, so let it run (mostly) wild.  Whereas the (sensible) artist who owns his own forum is interested in a safe and enjoyable community for his fans to share opinions and interact and disagree respectfully, so that people can have fun, get to know each other, and even maybe learn something new and interesting.

Add in the specifics of Joe's website with all of the great and diverse group of fans that mostly seems interested in learning from each other rather than getting into meaningless urinating contests, and I think this largely explains it, as well as the rules, community expectations, and work by the moderators (thank you guys).  Maybe the relative age and life experience of people here has something to do with it to as I like to think that older folks who have learned something from life and aren't bitter generally aren't looking to win every argument as a show of who is the biggest alpha male who can shout the loudest, but are rather looking to maybe learn something and be surprised by what someone else might know or share.  It's pretty hard to learn from someone else when you are focused on calling them names and winning meaningless arguments. 

Anyway, just a bunch of rambling thoughts but without going on a 35 page essay it covers a lot of what I think about it.  But that's just my opinion and I could be wrong.

I wasn't really criticizing one way or the other, just point out the differences. This Hog site is run by a fan, but at the same time, he's very good at making sure things don't get too out of hand. Doesn't allow cursing and such. But yeah, mainly I was just marveling at the differences.

Really, the answer is EXACTLY the reason posted above by photogal. Pay specific attention to the main paragraph in the above post.

That is truly why we attempt to moderate it the way we do.

People do wonder why they are on such a short leash when they decide to criticize Joe, but the facts are this is not the place for that.

.....and Jane was correct when she stated that this post should have been made in the "Off Topics" area. It has been moved.

We do attempt to take a hands off approach to moderating the forums, as they were unmoderated for a long period of time. We are able to just let them run as long as everyone tries to follow the intent and spirit of the posting guidelines.

Most recently things got a little out of hand and we have made a conscious effort to reel it back in, so a firmer approach has been used and will continue to be used until the offenders get the message or can no longer post here.

Have a great day!

PC

Los Lonely Boys?

Yes.

I believe there has been a general degradation in sports (expecially professional sports), and sportsmanship in particular. Trash talking, posturing, taunting, and the general me, me, me...look at how great I am.
I have been a huge sports fan my entire life, watching and participating. I was taught about fair play, respect and good sportsmanship. These values are becoming less and less noticeable. I think this has trickled down to the fans, which may be part of the reason for the difference.
And TO, don't even get me started about him...sorry Angela, but I think he's the poster boy for what's wrong with sports today.

Bill...I get your drift totally...  Big money is one of the problems, selfish ME ME ME...the old Yankees (Joe DiMaggio) were great IMO, because back then they didn't hop around & switch teams for money...where's the loyalty? What about good old competition without buying yourself the best team.  How much $$$ does it take to stay, be bought??? It's sickening on all levels and trickling down lower and lower in the chain.  My niece is 15 years old and won't be home for Thanksgiving, because she is playing in a field hockey tourney in California for a week.  Just my opinion, family first...she's not training for the olympics!  A boy in my town, a junior 16 years old, is being hounded by colleges, especially Harvard, to play lacrosse...he's a C student...Harvard said they'd tutor him.  Keep in mind how hard it is to get into Harvard on academics!!!   I think its wrong, just my 2 cents!!  Academics and sports should be bundled together as a student's total package of what they have to offer, etc.

I respect TO's athletic ability, he was unhappy and frustrated here and brought alot of bad press to our town, it wasn't going to work here...He wasn't all wrong about some things, he wanted to win, he wanted the quarterback to get the ball to him.  He's obviously attention seeking and has issues. Andy Reid is hard headed and on a Donovan love fest, I was happy to see Jeff Garcia finish the season.  Don't get me wrong, I like Donovan, but sometimes you have to adjust and Andy's not good at that.  He's got a real mess in his family life, so I feel sorry for him too.  2 of his kids are going to jail for heroin...guns, very sad...his wife has done some road running too, so maybe Donovan & him have a special bond, they really support each other.   Football and soap mixed together.

After seeing the inside of TO's house, the first words out of my daughter's mouth were, he has major ego problems Mom!   He had the whole absentee parent thing going on etc., his grandmother raised him and she wasn't always nice and that's the main reason I'm glad he's finding some happiness, although its no excuse for bad behavior, some are capable of rising above all that.  I read he's really into music, has all sorts of recording equipment and will probably move into that after sports. I think he wants to be a movie star...

Deezer-I think TO's arrogant side isn't showing, because he's much happier since he's winning...simple as that...still hamming for the camera, but lots of guys do that!  Last year, the coach knew how to handle him, didn't let anything spiral out of control...nipped it from the start.