Topic: nothing new with bonamassa

i am french and love blue  guitar
joe plays really really well but brings nothing new
i have heard his guitar playing hundred of times and hundred of guitar players plays exactly like him
there is a Hendrix way of playing, a santana way of playing but not a bonamassa..
i repeat even if he plays like god..he brings nothing new
his last record is a copy from the seventies..

Re: nothing new with bonamassa

I really dont understand you. What exactly is your goal? Do you want his fans to abandon him? Posts like this have no value and serve no purpose. While everybody is entitled to their opinion, this is a place where like minded fans of Joe come to share their thoughts of an incredible musician and all around wonderful person. To come here and disparage Joe and his music is shocking to say the least. This is the most disrespectful post I've ever seen on this site.

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Re: nothing new with bonamassa

philtadem wrote:

i am french and love blue  guitar
joe plays really really well but brings nothing new
i have heard his guitar playing hundred of times and hundred of guitar players plays exactly like him
there is a Hendrix way of playing, a santana way of playing but not a bonamassa..
i repeat even if he plays like god..he brings nothing new
his last record is a copy from the seventies..

I have heard this argument before. It is nothing new. I think you copied this idea from someone else.
By the way, great first post!

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4 (edited by rocknblues81 2014-09-27 08:24:40)

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philtadem wrote:

i am french and love blue  guitar
joe plays really really well but brings nothing new
i have heard his guitar playing hundred of times and hundred of guitar players plays exactly like him
there is a Hendrix way of playing, a santana way of playing but not a bonamassa..
i repeat even if he plays like god..he brings nothing new
his last record is a copy from the seventies..

Yeah, I was just arguing with some people over this on some of Joe's youtube video's.

First of all, it is MUCH easier to be original in the 60's-80's than it is now. It's 2014, and guitar and metal heads need to understand this.

Nobody sounded like Yngwie Malmsteen in the 80's... You could say he was original in that regard, but who wants to sit through his dreadful songs?

How about Jeff Healey? Don't get me wrong, I loved the guy... Technique wise, he was more original than Joe... But he never put out anywhere near the quality of music. Have an original technique is not the only way. Who cares if your technique is original if the music is not that good?

These people that carry around the concept that original technique is what matters are close minded. The blues rock genre is a well worn genre and complete originality is not likely. I don't see how you can hold it against artists that have came along in a time when most everything has been done.

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Having an overly distinctive sound can be a blessing and a curse. When your sound is always the same it can lead to boredom. if you are versatile  and can play endless genres and styles a lot can lead help you keep your music fresh and exciting.I do think Joe. does have his own sound but it's a more Sutle distinction as compared to say Hendrix.

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gary wrote:

Having an overly distinctive sound can be a blessing and a curse. When your sound is always the same it can lead to boredom. if you are versatile  and can play endless genres and styles a lot can lead help you keep your music fresh and exciting.I do think Joe. does have his own sound but it's a more Sutle distinction as compared to say Hendrix.

I'm surprised the OP didn't just come out and call Joe an Eric Johnson rip off. I've heard that argument also.

Re: nothing new with bonamassa

philtadem wrote:

i am french and love blue  guitar
joe plays really really well but brings nothing new
i have heard his guitar playing hundred of times and hundred of guitar players plays exactly like him
there is a Hendrix way of playing, a santana way of playing but not a bonamassa..
i repeat even if he plays like god..he brings nothing new
his last record is a copy from the seventies..

I think you have tinitus or are hard of hearing, Joe is 10 times more varied than virtually all the guitarists out there now and in the past

Joe's had adapted and played endles styles and techniques with Blues, Rock, Traditional Blues, Country, Jazz Funk, Heavy Rock, Soul, Acoustic.

Have you got all of his Live Dvd's, The Answer is in There, Wait for The Muddy Wolf DVD Live from Red Rocks for Total Confirmation.

i think youre referring to Individuality, Joe is Light Years ahead of anyone around today in the modern Rock Blues Genre reaching back into The Roots of Blues while pushing boundaries of Modern Blues, The bums on seats argument concludes my opinion

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8 (edited by norton 2014-09-27 11:37:27)

Re: nothing new with bonamassa

i am french and love blue  guitar
joe plays really really well but brings nothing new
i have heard his guitar playing hundred of times and hundred of guitar players plays exactly like him
there is a Hendrix way of playing, a santana way of playing but not a bonamassa..
i repeat even if he plays like god..he brings nothing new
his last record is a copy from the seventies..

I personally loved the 70's. 60's too for that matter. Missed seeing Hendrix (death at an early age can do that). Joe is the best guitarist I've ever seen and I've seen SRV, Clapton, Guy, Santana (multiple times and will see him again in 2 weeks), Betts, BB King, Johnny Winter, Albert King, Luther Allison and on and on over the last 50 years. Joe can play anything, can play it with passion and intensity and take you high and then go a little higher or down low and go a little lower. Sweet mother of Jesus man it's about the TONE. It is near perfect, just go to a concert and hear for yourself. It is clean and fast and sounds like it is supposed to plus a little. The good thing is I won't have to fight you for tickets to the 3 Kings show next summer. Watch the Red Rocks DVD. If you love the blues, as you claim, you should love Joe's playing or your a dope.

Your post really doesn't add much frankly. If you don't like him, go away. Why be on his fan board except to be a troll maybe? And your being French is pretty irrelevant too. Funny that you say you like the blues but the guitarists you are championing (Hendrix and Santana) are not blues guitarists really (though Jimi sure could sure play it when her wanted to).

9 (edited by RickB 2014-09-27 09:51:03)

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Just what I was beginning to say Michael.
Joe has made no bones about his roots and where he got his inspiration. He's taken a fading genre and brought new life to it with his hard work and skills. Now he's broken through and brought  a growing new audience to the genre, achieving pop star sales even. Look at the first ranking in the UK. #6 on the charts OVERALL with DSOB. Right up there with Lady Gaga!
Every great artist has their detractors, some jealous of the skills they themselves may lack, others having the skills and not the success. Ask Joe and he'll say there are a ton of players as good as he, but where are they?
Bums in seats indeed, and money spent on music by many who never would have approached the Blues before.

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Rick

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10 (edited by rocknblues81 2014-09-27 10:00:36)

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RickB wrote:

Just what I was beginning to say Michael.
Joe has made no bones about his roots and where he got his inspiration. He's taken a fading genre and brought new life to it with his hard work and skills. Now he's broken through and brought  a growing new audience to the genre, achieving pop star sales even. Look at the first ranking in the UK. #6 on the charts OVERALL with DSOB. Right up there with Lady Gaga!
Every great artist has their detractors, some jealous of the skills they themselves may lack, others having the skills and not the success. Ask Joe and he'll say there are a ton of players as good as he, but where are they?
Bums in seats indeed, and money spent on music by many who never would have approached the Blues before.

Keeping the Blues alive!
Rick

Moreover, it's about songs and not just skills.

I don't buy albums just for Joe either... I also love the talent he surrounds himself with.

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this person went soooo far out of their way to post this. If you want to be critical put it under the thread already started for the CD!! I really don't even mind what was said(also don't really care). I just find it funny that they went to this spot to be critical when there are so many other sites for that. If I don't care about someone's music I just say nothing and move on!! Like I said its not what's said but how and where presented.

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my  post is not a critic but a constatation
i repeat he plays like god,every style (funk,blue ,rock etc;;)
But when i hear him playing ,he plays exactly like the great blues man  from the 70/80
he does not bring a NEW style like Santana or Hendrix or marc Knoffer  did
that s all i say and i do like him smile

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philtadem wrote:

my  post is not a critic but a constatation
i repeat he plays like god,every style (funk,blue ,rock etc;;)
But when i hear him playing ,he plays exactly like the great blues man  from the 70/80
he does not bring a NEW style like Santana or Hendrix or marc Knoffer  did
that s all i say and i do like him smile

Have you heard anyone since the 70's that plays the blues in a new style ?

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Re: nothing new with bonamassa

philtadem wrote:

my  post is not a critic but a constatation


Really?? For a first time poster you are highly critical, unlike any first post I've ever read on this site. It was completely uncalled for and arguably rude considering it was a first post.

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Re: nothing new with bonamassa

philtadem wrote:

But when i hear him playing ,he plays exactly like the great blues man  from the 70/80

That's what is so awesome, it's nothing "new." ... but he does it BETTER than anyone since the 60s/70s.
JB is carrying it forward and pushing it to the limits of workload capacity. The dude tours, records, and is on the road pretty much year round. Never takes a break, and people keep filling up venues to see him again and again. With no radio support, he earns his success by tireless work ethic. If he didn't play the 'nothing new' style better than everyone else nobody would know who he is.

Nic
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"Originality" is extremely low on things I care about in music.  Is it good?  Does it move me?  That's what I care about, and what makes me listen.  There are only so many Jimi Hendrixs, Frank Zappas and Eddie Van Halens to come around, but there's tons and tons of great music in every decade.  If you're waiting for something new and original in guitar playing you'll be waiting a long time.

That said, all great players have a unique voice on their instrument - Joe certainly does.

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ZeyerGTR wrote:

"Originality" is extremely low on things I care about in music.  Is it good?  Does it move me?  That's what I care about, and what makes me listen.  There are only so many Jimi Hendrixs, Frank Zappas and Eddie Van Halens to come around, but there's tons and tons of great music in every decade.  If you're waiting for something new and original in guitar playing you'll be waiting a long time.

That said, all great players have a unique voice on their instrument - Joe certainly does.

I agree completely! (Robert Randolph too)

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last comment jo his a great great player ,the fastest, the better in blues in 2014 but he has copied the seventies and has brought nothing new..
the riff where the same  with jeff beck,clapton etc..
his guitar playing comes from this  2 geants
a great  guitar player is easy to recognise..you hear a new song and you say ..he plays like santana
you cant say that with joe
anyway i love his last record "shaps of blues"..but the riff were the same ..30 years before