Re: Picking Joe's Fast Descending Pentatonic Sequences

thanks for the you tube links guys and responses. Its hard to watch Joe's picking without slowing it down. Does anyone know any tricks on how to play Joe's fast runs on "No love on the street" or "Heartbreaker"? The tab book says to pick every note but it seems like it is impossible to get it up to Joe's speed. Any thoughts? helpful tips/tricks? Joe doesnt seem to move his right hand that fast when I watch his live DVD/Blue ray videos. And its hard to tell if hes using all alternate picking/economy picking on those fast runs. its soo smooth and effertless. there has to be a trick to it or something I'm missing..., LOL. I did notice on his fast runs that hes using alot of his 2nd and ring finger and avoiding the pinky finger alot. Not sure why...

20 (edited by wharris 2012-11-02 18:38:43)

Re: Picking Joe's Fast Descending Pentatonic Sequences

Play the runs VERY SLOWLY. After several days/weeks of being able to do this perfectly, continue to play SLOWLY (to the point that it feels ludicrous). Then, very gradually increase your speed…this may take months to a year or more (depending nd I'm just talking about a few specific licks) on how often you are able to practice. Play them fast and sloppy on the front end, and you will be well on your way to being very good at playing them sloppy forever. Muscle memory is your friend.

Re: Picking Joe's Fast Descending Pentatonic Sequences

I thought I would get my two pence-worth in on this topic...

I agree with wharris on this matter..

Now, not claiming to be a professional at playing guitar, I have been playing for 11/12 years or so now.. I am 26 years old and in the last 2/3 years or so my playing has come on leaps and bounds... even more so for listening to artists such as Joe, Eric Johnson, Eric Gales etc..

Having taught guitar for the past 6 or thereabout years to students of all levels/ages... a common problem most have encountered is patience. And believe me, patience really is the virtue in this instance.. Teaching allows me to study the physical emotional output by my students in regards to their own reaction to their playing achievements. When they make a mistake, you can tell they are set back by it, but by pure ignorance, they do not take a step back to think about, why they messed up, what went wrong, and how to find a way around the problem.

As I mentioned earlier having influences such as people like Joe, (who I actually got into many, many years ago, and sort of passed over him) and like i say in the past 4 years or so I had back tracked and got back into him, and his playing ability in the sense that it is such a pure & clean style, (whatever genre he is attempting). He even states this in his playing that he has over the years, decreased the amount of gain that he uses to give the said, clean and articulate style which we know today..

anywho,, going off track a bit ill get back to it..

Playing SLOW really is the key to learning those tricky lines. Muscle Memory is and should be one of the most fundamental parts of any guitar players technique, specifically while learning/practicing/performing..

And having followed this particular thread for a while, in most of Joe's fast pentatonic runs, I personally believe he does pick most of his, and yes people it is impossible without the practice but like i say if you do slow it down and practice it in three parts, Learn It Practice It & then Perform It you will soon enough be playing the same licks...

I may just post a couple of video's so demonstrate all of this in action, and some of his particular runs if anyone is interested..


I apologise if this seems like a load of babble, what with being my first post, but Having followed this forum for a while & noticing that I had never posted (i spent too much time reading & enjoying other peoples posts) i thought i would start to commit to posting smile

Re: Picking Joe's Fast Descending Pentatonic Sequences

Good post, and welcome! I'm looking forward to your videos.

Re: Picking Joe's Fast Descending Pentatonic Sequences

chrispemberton wrote:

I thought I would get my two pence-worth in on this topic...

I agree with wharris on this matter..

Now, not claiming to be a professional at playing guitar, I have been playing for 11/12 years or so now.. I am 26 years old and in the last 2/3 years or so my playing has come on leaps and bounds... even more so for listening to artists such as Joe, Eric Johnson, Eric Gales etc..

Having taught guitar for the past 6 or thereabout years to students of all levels/ages... a common problem most have encountered is patience. And believe me, patience really is the virtue in this instance.. Teaching allows me to study the physical emotional output by my students in regards to their own reaction to their playing achievements. When they make a mistake, you can tell they are set back by it, but by pure ignorance, they do not take a step back to think about, why they messed up, what went wrong, and how to find a way around the problem.

As I mentioned earlier having influences such as people like Joe, (who I actually got into many, many years ago, and sort of passed over him) and like i say in the past 4 years or so I had back tracked and got back into him, and his playing ability in the sense that it is such a pure & clean style, (whatever genre he is attempting). He even states this in his playing that he has over the years, decreased the amount of gain that he uses to give the said, clean and articulate style which we know today..

anywho,, going off track a bit ill get back to it..

Playing SLOW really is the key to learning those tricky lines. Muscle Memory is and should be one of the most fundamental parts of any guitar players technique, specifically while learning/practicing/performing..

And having followed this particular thread for a while, in most of Joe's fast pentatonic runs, I personally believe he does pick most of his, and yes people it is impossible without the practice but like i say if you do slow it down and practice it in three parts, Learn It Practice It & then Perform It you will soon enough be playing the same licks...

I may just post a couple of video's so demonstrate all of this in action, and some of his particular runs if anyone is interested..


I apologise if this seems like a load of babble, what with being my first post, but Having followed this forum for a while & noticing that I had never posted (i spent too much time reading & enjoying other peoples posts) i thought i would start to commit to posting smile


Welcome !! Looking forward to the videos !

Re: Picking Joe's Fast Descending Pentatonic Sequences

Welcome also. big_smile

Come on the Blades (sorry Idolbone just had to borrow your line)

Re: Picking Joe's Fast Descending Pentatonic Sequences

Hey Guys,


Here's a late night, not so very good quality video i just knocked up just as an insight, (woah, feels weird talking & demonstrating on cam) ... anywho... i might make a more 'lesson' based videos if people like what it could offer (with a bit more planning) LOL...

i dont know how to embed facebook videos so here you go..

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php … 0506148413

Re: Picking Joe's Fast Descending Pentatonic Sequences

Play the runs VERY SLOWLY. After several days/weeks of being able to do this perfectly, continue to play SLOWLY (to the point that it feels ludicrous). Then, very gradually increase your speed…this may take months to a year or more (depending nd I'm just talking about a few specific licks) on how often you are able to practice. Play them fast and sloppy on the front end, and you will be well on your way to being very good at playing them sloppy forever. Muscle memory is your friend.

This is good advice, with one caveat.  While it's of the utmost importance to practice it slow and clean, it's also important to push your speed every so often.  Your technique might tend to change (for the worse, usually) when you get beyond a certain "comfortable" tempo.  It just starts feeling different.  If you never really push it, it's going to be hard to ever get comfortable fast.  Of course, it's all for naught if you don't have it down cold slower.  Practice doesn't make perfect, practice makes permanent. smile

...a common problem most have encountered is patience. And believe me, patience really is the virtue in this instance..

Amen to that.