Topic: Help out a young aspiring session guitarist? (re-posted)

Was told it would be a better idea to post this here so hopefully no-one minds if they've seen it before smile sorry

My names Frazer and im a 20 year old guitarist from Glasgow, Scotland, and am looking for other musicians to have a look at my playing and if they think it is of a good standard, write a few words regarding your thoughts on my ability for me to put on my website which we will be setting up tomorrow.

It's a very strange and contrived request, but ive come across so many great players here that id be glad to have a couple of your names giving your musical insight into what i have to offer as a player. Obviously in return i would leave a link on my site to your site/myspace/soundcloud or page that promotes your music.
I already have a few from people ive worked with but i thought there'd be no harm in asking for some more experienced musicians input on this forum.

Sorry for this odd request/post but i am merely utilizing the small windows of opportunity i have open to me at this time
Here is a link to my youtube channel with some short HD videos of me playing some different styles & techniques (ignore the 2 old videos as they are poor quality and from years ago, cringe >.<)

http://www.youtube.com/user/frazerburns91/videos

Thanks for indulging me, any questions just ask.
Frazer

Me playing Joe's actual Ibanez Tubescreamer pedal - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76jk58_vl2s

Re: Help out a young aspiring session guitarist? (re-posted)

"Frazer Burns: Electric Guitar - Distorted" wails a lot faster than what I can do.
How did you learn to play so fast? I feel like I missed the boat on shredding when I learned how to play guitar. hmm

The videos look good... I'm not sure what other musicians (drums, bass, singers) would take from it because you're just riffing. No complete songs, and no interaction with other musicians.

I guess my only advice is to setup a video camera and jam with some people at an open mic night some where in Glasgow if there are some. It will be fun, and you'll have some mileage you can show off.

keep us posted on updates! good luck

-Nic

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Re: Help out a young aspiring session guitarist? (re-posted)

NPB_EST.1979 wrote:

"Frazer Burns: Electric Guitar - Distorted" wails a lot faster than what I can do.
How did you learn to play so fast? I feel like I missed the boat on shredding when I learned how to play guitar. hmm

The videos look good... I'm not sure what other musicians (drums, bass, singers) would take from it because you're just riffing. No complete songs, and no interaction with other musicians.

I guess my only advice is to setup a video camera and jam with some people at an open mic night some where in Glasgow if there are some. It will be fun, and you'll have some mileage you can show off.

keep us posted on updates! good luck

-Nic

First of all, thanks so much for taking the time to help me out man, great to have your input smile

Thanks man I used to be faster but it got to the stage where it had no purpose to play that fast that often. As for developing speed, I spent about a year struggling with it and getting my right hand as fast as my left hand, and then syncing them both of them together. I guess I just had a mindset that I wouldn't be satisfied with my playing if I couldn't pick fast, so I had a lot of motivation. Finally nailed it when I was 17, was a great feeling to have achieved that goal.

I totally see what you mean as far as the vids just being out of context riffing, and I plan on getting more comprehensive performances recorded next month. However for the time being ill just put a small disclaimer on my site saying the videos are there to display my technical ability in different areas. I'll also have a Classical performance video and a slide-guitar composition up within the next couple of weeks smile

I definitely need to find a band and video us playing something in a live format.

Thanks again

Me playing Joe's actual Ibanez Tubescreamer pedal - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76jk58_vl2s

Re: Help out a young aspiring session guitarist? (re-posted)

frazerburns19 wrote:

Was told it would be a better idea to post this here so hopefully no-one minds if they've seen it before smile sorry

My names Frazer and im a 20 year old guitarist from Glasgow, Scotland, and am looking for other musicians to have a look at my playing and if they think it is of a good standard, write a few words regarding your thoughts on my ability for me to put on my website which we will be setting up tomorrow.

It's a very strange and contrived request, but ive come across so many great players here that id be glad to have a couple of your names giving your musical insight into what i have to offer as a player. Obviously in return i would leave a link on my site to your site/myspace/soundcloud or page that promotes your music.
I already have a few from people ive worked with but i thought there'd be no harm in asking for some more experienced musicians input on this forum.

Sorry for this odd request/post but i am merely utilizing the small windows of opportunity i have open to me at this time
Here is a link to my youtube channel with some short HD videos of me playing some different styles & techniques (ignore the 2 old videos as they are poor quality and from years ago, cringe >.<)

http://www.youtube.com/user/frazerburns91/videos

Thanks for indulging me, any questions just ask.
Frazer

Hi Frazer
You got good hands man I suggest working your talent by using some backing tracks and playing along. Would love to see what you can do with a band behind you. Keep rocking Ron from Pelham N.H. U.S.A.

"Joe B saved my soul, forever grateful Ron"
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Re: Help out a young aspiring session guitarist? (re-posted)

Nic is right, an open mic tour of sorts. Doing so will first help you become used to playing for people if you're not accustomed to that already. Second, it will get you used to playing with different types of players. Playing open mics myself allowed me to know how to adjust, adapt and overcome barriers when playing with a different bassist, or drummer. Trust me, they aren't all very steady..  And not all bass players sync up well with all drummers.. Also factor in possibly playing with another guitarist, organist, even a harmonica player. The more people, the more control over your playing you'll need to be aware of. This would be a HUGE plus should you decide to pursue a gig as a studio guitarist since obviously you would be playing (and dealing) with various egos, styles and genres. You can then catalogue your recorded performances in with your youtube account, and maybe polish it up a bit to look more pro.

Stefan somehow uses backing tracks or programs backing tracks..I don't have a clue how all that works..then he records himself as if he were playing with a band in the studio. I bought a recorder the other year and my old band did a few songs. They turned out really nice and then we had a cd to physically give out to people. Same can apply to you if you are serious about such a venture. You could make business cards, document your live footage on youtube and have hard copies of demos in hand to give out to people. Then, you're more prepared to do some networking. Again, this is merely to give yourself some bargaining chips if you can finagle some connections. Sorry for the slight lecture if you're already seasoned at playing with other people, or bands..not sure your actual gigging experience!

I'd imagine being a studio musician isn't like being in a band and needing to have demos to hand out in order to get gigs, but having something is better than nothing! At least its a start. -Seth

Re: Help out a young aspiring session guitarist? (re-posted)

I've already told you in 3 or 5 year of playing you were more capable at guitar then me.  I got an SG I love and adore that looks exactly like yours.  I'm just missing that TS-808 that was handed to you!  LOL.  Seriously your very talented at a very young age, which is a great thing.  I would suggest that you continue to work hard on guitar and never pass on a chance to jam with people regardless of style.  Also I would suggest as you become rich and famous to keep your humility in check and always be a gracious player and not a player that would be, "I'm really good and here is why"  I've played with people like that and yes they are good, but do you really care to be in the same room with them?  I think your a great young man from what I've seen on the forum and as long as your willing to continue learning and stay out of too much trouble your going to be great!  Good luck.  Not sure if your doing anything continuing your education, but learning the business side of things as well as the music will pay off when your making career choices in the future!

Re: Help out a young aspiring session guitarist? (re-posted)

Hard to judge. From what I see in the clips you are technically accurate and fast, still strongly influenced by Joe (?). So far nothing wrong with your playing. I personally always like complete musisicans, who are/become good song writers, write good lyrics, are able to ispire others, leave memorable melodies. A good example wood be Brad Paisley.

What I want to say is, find the balance, the right mix between virtuosity and musicality, don't lose your focus on what music should do - move people emotionally - move you emotionally as a musician.

T.M. Stevens once said: "Learn as much as you can and then forget everything and make your own thing!". I thinks that's the best advise one can get as a musician.

As others already said, play out as much as you can. Maybe plan a musical holiday/trip - that's at least what I did in 1998, only packed with a few clothes and my guitar I roamed the west of the US and played countles sessions in clubs. Figured out that most of the shred licks I have so eagerly learned were not practicable and that sometimes a single note played at the right time makes the audience get goose bumps ;-)

Good luck!

Re: Help out a young aspiring session guitarist? (re-posted)

Great playing mate... I daresay George (Amsterhammer) will be advising you to keep all of your posts in one topic (as he has with me)...


Keep pickin'

- Stefan

Re: Help out a young aspiring session guitarist? (re-posted)

Nice playing, you have some good chops for 20, way ahead of where I was at that age. One of my favorite bands is from Scotland, a town called Perth, the band is Alestorm.

Re: Help out a young aspiring session guitarist? (re-posted)

Thanks everyone for the great comments, I'd respond to each of them individually but im writing this on my phone so it would take forever (sorry)

The main thing I'm taking from your responses and advice is that I have my technique together, but I'm not displaying the one thing that people respond to....Musicality smile
I will be looking to put together a little power trio and (whether it be in a practice studio or live stage) getting some videos of us improvising and responding to what eachother plays, as I feel this is one of my strengths that I have as a musician that I'd love to display, as I love to listen & react to other players, those are the situations where you play things you've never done before.
These days I'm working on my sight reading and cultivating my strengths so that they are more noticeable and (hopefully) unique, because I've been constantly reminded that musical success/fulfillment is found in Innovation, not perfection.
Thanks again to you guys for re-iterating what is important in my musical development, I only with I knew what I knew now when I was 16.
As for my technique, I feel I'm 80% there as far as getting to the sound/touch I hear in my head, and I work on it more than I ever have these days.

Anymore feedback or advice would be extremely appreciated, and will definitely have a positive effect on how I approach this endeavour. Gotta get a little better each day smile

Me playing Joe's actual Ibanez Tubescreamer pedal - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76jk58_vl2s

Re: Help out a young aspiring session guitarist? (re-posted)

frazerburns19 wrote:

Thanks everyone for the great comments, I'd respond to each of them individually but im writing this on my phone so it would take forever (sorry)

The main thing I'm taking from your responses and advice is that I have my technique together, but I'm not displaying the one thing that people respond to....Musicality smile
I will be looking to put together a little power trio and (whether it be in a practice studio or live stage) getting some videos of us improvising and responding to what eachother plays, as I feel this is one of my strengths that I have as a musician that I'd love to display, as I love to listen & react to other players, those are the situations where you play things you've never done before.
These days I'm working on my sight reading and cultivating my strengths so that they are more noticeable and (hopefully) unique, because I've been constantly reminded that musical success/fulfillment is found in Innovation, not perfection.
Thanks again to you guys for re-iterating what is important in my musical development, I only with I knew what I knew now when I was 16.
As for my technique, I feel I'm 80% there as far as getting to the sound/touch I hear in my head, and I work on it more than I ever have these days.

Anymore feedback or advice would be extremely appreciated, and will definitely have a positive effect on how I approach this endeavour. Gotta get a little better each day smile

Rock on remember the quest will never end.
Cheers Ron

"Joe B saved my soul, forever grateful Ron"
"Some people dream of worthy accomplishments while others stay awake and do them"
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Re: Help out a young aspiring session guitarist? (re-posted)

cindyron wrote:
frazerburns19 wrote:

Thanks everyone for the great comments, I'd respond to each of them individually but im writing this on my phone so it would take forever (sorry)

The main thing I'm taking from your responses and advice is that I have my technique together, but I'm not displaying the one thing that people respond to....Musicality smile
I will be looking to put together a little power trio and (whether it be in a practice studio or live stage) getting some videos of us improvising and responding to what eachother plays, as I feel this is one of my strengths that I have as a musician that I'd love to display, as I love to listen & react to other players, those are the situations where you play things you've never done before.
These days I'm working on my sight reading and cultivating my strengths so that they are more noticeable and (hopefully) unique, because I've been constantly reminded that musical success/fulfillment is found in Innovation, not perfection.
Thanks again to you guys for re-iterating what is important in my musical development, I only with I knew what I knew now when I was 16.
As for my technique, I feel I'm 80% there as far as getting to the sound/touch I hear in my head, and I work on it more than I ever have these days.

Anymore feedback or advice would be extremely appreciated, and will definitely have a positive effect on how I approach this endeavour. Gotta get a little better each day smile

Rock on remember the quest will never end.
Cheers Ron

However the main thing is to enjoy it. That will show in your playing far more than you would appreciate. big_smile

Come on the Blades (sorry Idolbone just had to borrow your line)

Re: Help out a young aspiring session guitarist? (re-posted)

PSmith1946 wrote:
cindyron wrote:
frazerburns19 wrote:

Thanks everyone for the great comments, I'd respond to each of them individually but im writing this on my phone so it would take forever (sorry)

The main thing I'm taking from your responses and advice is that I have my technique together, but I'm not displaying the one thing that people respond to....Musicality smile
I will be looking to put together a little power trio and (whether it be in a practice studio or live stage) getting some videos of us improvising and responding to what eachother plays, as I feel this is one of my strengths that I have as a musician that I'd love to display, as I love to listen & react to other players, those are the situations where you play things you've never done before.
These days I'm working on my sight reading and cultivating my strengths so that they are more noticeable and (hopefully) unique, because I've been constantly reminded that musical success/fulfillment is found in Innovation, not perfection.
Thanks again to you guys for re-iterating what is important in my musical development, I only with I knew what I knew now when I was 16.
As for my technique, I feel I'm 80% there as far as getting to the sound/touch I hear in my head, and I work on it more than I ever have these days.

Anymore feedback or advice would be extremely appreciated, and will definitely  have a positive effect on how I approach this endeavour. Gotta get a little better. each day smile

Rock on remember the quest will never end.
Cheers Ron

However the main thing is to enjoy it. That will show in your playing far more than you would appreciate. big_smile


Extremely true and its always a pleasure to play music smile hopefully that won't change, thanks again wink

Me playing Joe's actual Ibanez Tubescreamer pedal - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76jk58_vl2s