Topic: EVH Wolfgang - Anybody Try One?

A friend just took delivery of a EVH Wolfgang Black Stealth with the Floyd Rose Trem.  What a guitar!  The fingerboad is ebony and very smooth with a compound radius from 12" to 16".  The real surprise for me was how clean the guitar sounded when you need it that way.

I only had a chance to play it for 5 minutes before band practice started for my friend, but I must say I was very impressed.  Has anyone else had a chance to play any of the EVH Wolfgang line and if so what were your thoughts?

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

Re: EVH Wolfgang - Anybody Try One?

Indy wrote:

A friend just took delivery of a EVH Wolfgang Black Stealth with the Floyd Rose Trem.  What a guitar!  The fingerboad is ebony and very smooth with a compound radius from 12" to 16".  The real surprise for me was how clean the guitar sounded when you need it that way.

I only had a chance to play it for 5 minutes before band practice started for my friend, but I must say I was very impressed.  Has anyone else had a chance to play any of the EVH Wolfgang line and if so what were your thoughts?

Hi Indy
I had one but I sold it. For me it had only one tone. Not sure if it was because of the basswood. Could not get anything other then that in your face kind of growl. Don't get me wrong it was a great guitar and I love growl but I needed more that blues from the soul tone when called upon also which it did not do for me. Simply for me only one dimensional. I had the Fender custom shop build. As with everything else what you hear needs to work for you. So if it's your kind of guitar go for it.
Cheers Ron

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Re: EVH Wolfgang - Anybody Try One?

cindyron wrote:
Indy wrote:

A friend just took delivery of a EVH Wolfgang Black Stealth with the Floyd Rose Trem.  What a guitar!  The fingerboad is ebony and very smooth with a compound radius from 12" to 16".  The real surprise for me was how clean the guitar sounded when you need it that way.

I only had a chance to play it for 5 minutes before band practice started for my friend, but I must say I was very impressed.  Has anyone else had a chance to play any of the EVH Wolfgang line and if so what were your thoughts?

Hi Indy
I had one but I sold it. For me it had only one tone. Not sure if it was because of the basswood. Could not get anything other then that in your face kind of growl. Don't get me wrong it was a great guitar and I love growl but I needed more that blues from the soul tone when called upon also which it did not do for me. Simply for me only one dimensional. I had the Fender custom shop build. As with everything else what you hear needs to work for you. So if it's your kind of guitar go for it.
Cheers Ron

I totally agree. I owned the tobacco sunburst custom shop with the carved top and fell out with it after a few weeks. It was a great rock machine but a bit too one dimensional for me. The SS skinny frets took a while to get used to as well but that neck was a dream

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Never tried the stealth model but owned the old Peavey model and played the newer one. Tone is very much 'hot' I found even if playing some clean blues, a very bright sound which I like.

Absolutely adore the neck and frets on the guitars though, played very few as good as the old Peavey and Musicman ones.

5 (edited by DaveWammbarro 2012-05-14 17:50:20)

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cindyron wrote:
Indy wrote:

A friend just took delivery of a EVH Wolfgang Black Stealth with the Floyd Rose Trem.  What a guitar!  The fingerboad is ebony and very smooth with a compound radius from 12" to 16".  The real surprise for me was how clean the guitar sounded when you need it that way.

I only had a chance to play it for 5 minutes before band practice started for my friend, but I must say I was very impressed.  Has anyone else had a chance to play any of the EVH Wolfgang line and if so what were your thoughts?

Hi Indy
I had one but I sold it. For me it had only one tone. Not sure if it was because of the basswood. Could not get anything other then that in your face kind of growl. Don't get me wrong it was a great guitar and I love growl but I needed more that blues from the soul tone when called upon also which it did not do for me. Simply for me only one dimensional. I had the Fender custom shop build. As with everything else what you hear needs to work for you. So if it's your kind of guitar go for it.
Cheers Ron

I agree exactly with Ron and I think we've mentioned it in a topic before - it has only one sound...and it ain't a soulful guitar by any means. The basswood is pretty damn awful...zero tone.
Could not dig the stainless steel frets...they have no feel or grab..they're just too rock solid...and to me that felt flat and unresponsive.
I also thought the buckers were far too high output and distinctly lacking in some areas.
I played mine for a couple of hours on the first day, then it went back into its hard case and under the bed for a month before I sold it last week - for a small profit.
Never again.
Eddie sure does make things work for him though...but he doesn't like Les Pauls...and I as sure hell do.

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Man, I love stainless steel frets.  I'm never getting another refret unless it's to stainless, and I don't see myself ever buying another guitar without stainless frets (perhaps I can give a pass to 50s and 60s LPs, teles and strats that might be in my future if I win the lottery).  Just my 2c.

Never played the Wolfgang, but I have played some Suhrs with a basswood body/maple cap and they sound absolutely gorgeous, dynamic and full of tonal options - clean and with OD or distortion.  I'm guessing if the Wolfgang is one dimensional it's more about the pickups than the wood.  Does the Wolfgang have a maple cap?

This is basswood/maple:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO0ABQAbSrI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwh2Cj8CX7A

Re: EVH Wolfgang - Anybody Try One?

A one trick pony?  I suppose after only playing the guitar for five minutes I really didn't get a chance to put it through its paces, but the clean tones from this guitar, while not Fender quality, were very articulate.  I did notice that there isn't much difference once you let the guitar get dirty whether at medium levels or loud.  I played it through a friends JCM 900.

The neck is really remarkable & fat and as some have mentioned the frets make playing a bit different, but it almost feels easier as the strings just slide across the stainless steel frets.

This Wolfgang did have a maple cap (not sure about the specials) but the basswood I don't think hampers the tone at all.  Who knows, my ears have been shot since the early 80's.  EBMM has been using basswood in their JP6 BFR's for sometime now.

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

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Personally I believe that the lifelessness is due to the Floyd Rose.... They are the biggest tone sucker out there!! Their limited contact with the wood causes the wood to resonate less and the whole guitar loses life!! I've heard guitars made out of all sorts of materials that sound great.... and I've heard guitars with premium woods that suck because they simply have a floyd rose!!

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10 (edited by Coach305 2012-05-14 23:05:45)

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Indy wrote:

EBMM has been using basswood in their JP6 BFR's for sometime now.

Actually, I think that's just the JP6, JP7, and JP12 regular models.  According to their website, the BFR versions of those models are alder with maple tops and mahogany tone blocks (except for the ones with the Koa top, which are apparently solid mahogany).  The Reflex model is basswood, as was the 25th Anniversary model the Reflex is based on.  I am the proud owner of a 25th Anni, and if it is a "one-trick pony," I like that one trick very, very much...   wink

Terrance Shuman
New Castle, DE

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Ernie Ball Axis is the same guitar practically.  I never hear anybody knocking those guitars.  They have lots of guitar with bass wood.

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I tried the new special and the matt black special stealth. I have also previously owned a number of the previous Peavey Wolfgang, an EBMM EVH1 and Charvel Art series. For me the new Fender EVH Wolfgang is the weak link in EVH's signature models. The stealth is noticabley better than the maple neck special but neither seem that versatile.

In the end I built the guitar in my sig pic instead for around the same price as the stealth special with a real floyd (as apposed to the FR special on the EVH), stainless 6105 frets, mahogany chambered body (with high grade quilted top), goncalo alves neck with pau ferro fingerboard.

I like Floyd's although they are a huge pain to set the intonation on. In my experience they don't rob tone on guitars where they're set flat to the body (eg. EVH, Axis etc.).  In my opinion it's the new pickups that let the new Wolfie down not the body as all my old Peavey Wolfies were basswood and they sounded huge.

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stefanhauk wrote:

Personally I believe that the lifelessness is due to the Floyd Rose.... They are the biggest tone sucker out there!! Their limited contact with the wood causes the wood to resonate less and the whole guitar loses life!! I've heard guitars made out of all sorts of materials that sound great.... and I've heard guitars with premium woods that suck because they simply have a floyd rose!!

I used to think the same about the floyd until i swapped out the block inside for a massive brass block. The increase in tone and sustain was massive. I have a rasmus modern with a gotoh floyd and suhr vintage output pickups pickups that sounds huge. I only found out about the upgrade when i saw an article on slash who had fitted a big brass block in his floyd Les Paul (sacrilege!) The floyd on the wolfgang can only dive bomb as its sat against the body

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14 (edited by cindyron 2012-05-15 15:32:25)

Re: EVH Wolfgang - Anybody Try One?

stefanhauk wrote:

Personally I believe that the lifelessness is due to the Floyd Rose.... They are the biggest tone sucker out there!! Their limited contact with the wood causes the wood to resonate less and the whole guitar loses life!! I've heard guitars made out of all sorts of materials that sound great.... and I've heard guitars with premium woods that suck because they simply have a floyd rose!!

I have a Alex Lifeson Gibson LP that has a Floyd and it kicks you know what. Floyd Rose are tricky to set up I suggest if you are having issues make sure you have it set up correctly. It would be worth taking it to a tech if you are havigf Floyd problem.
My two cents
Cheers Ron

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Also, what is the deal with the Floyd smacking down against the body when releasing a bended note?
Try it.
I thought about putting rubber or masking tape under it, because the tapping of the Floyd coming down from the increased tension due to the bending of a note, meant that it was an audible boom or bang when plugged in.

Is it just me?...again?

I.HATE.FLOYD.ROSE.TREMS.
The problems and compromises far, far outweigh the little tricks it can do. I've seen some great Wilkinson stuff out there (and others) where even significant diving and up-tricks...the tuning is still stable.

Re: EVH Wolfgang - Anybody Try One?

DaveWammbarro wrote:

Also, what is the deal with the Floyd smacking down against the body when releasing a bended note?

Not an issue with the wolfgang (against body) setup as you set the tension on the rear springs so the bridge doesn't lift when bending the 2nd and 3rd strings as far as you can push them.

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dave_5150 wrote:
DaveWammbarro wrote:

Also, what is the deal with the Floyd smacking down against the body when releasing a bended note?

Not an issue with the wolfgang (against body) setup as you set the tension on the rear springs so the bridge doesn't lift when bending the 2nd and 3rd strings as far as you can push them.

Really? I have never played a FR that doesn't do that somewhat yet sits well generally.
I have tried time and time again to set a FR correctly and there is always something wrong.
None of the seven Wolfgangs in the shops that I tried we correct in this way.
I'd honestly like to see and play one of these guitars...surely the tension on the strings pulling it down must be massive, because bending a G string off the board is quite a stretch...and I thought there might be some lift?
Any youtube links?

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DaveWammbarro wrote:

I.HATE.FLOYD.ROSE.TREMS.

I.LIKE.FLOYD.ROSE.TREMS.!
I've never had issues with them, setting them up or even getting them set after taking all the strings off the guitar. I guess I just have "the touch"?! Their soul purpose for some though is fake a guitar solo.. or to cover up wrong notes by dive bombing. -or both.