Ian916 wrote:dknight16 wrote:Innuendo proves nothing. Show me a failed test. Until then, Lance is the king.
agreed. - Sorry to say this but I think that this is a sad reflection of the witch hunt USA ant doping agency who think that making a statement is a conviction based on hearsay by offering reward to those that have already done wrong. - And the fact that they think that they can declare his Tour de France results void is the ultimate display of ignorance. And I though that it was only us Brits that turned on ourselves, (in terms of sporting bodies)!
Lance Armstrong has done so such good for millions of people. He is an all time sporting hero that should never have been hounded in this way.
There are witch hunts, and then there are witch hunts.
But the truth will out. Like the pyramid financial schemes, like the Saville enquries going on in the UK, like the phone hacking scandals and so on and so on.
EVERYONE has known for years that cycling was a tainted sport through the 90's and through those mega successful Armstrong years. We wanted to so believe that HE could be above that. Clearly he was above it because he was actually virtually controlling it.
Yeah, he never failed a drugs check or test. But the guy is made of Teflon. Nothing sticks. Bullying, coercion, blackmail, you name it he and his team have done it. Armstrong has Obama's telephone number in his cell, as he probably had 'Dubya's' too.
It probably won't even matter that his records will be expunged. Armstrong has actually moved beyond his sport. His public personality has so developed that he is probably big enough to leave the scandal behind him. He's the first person now to have made cheating acceptable. It's almost like it was the sports fault for allowing it to happen.
BBC5 broadcast this yesterday. A 2 hour documentary based on the USADA report findings with interviews with the personalities that have testified against him as well as other indepependant commentators. At times if it wasn't so chilling it would be funny.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01ngqxd
I'm not a great cycling fan, but I am a sport fan. As a story of how cycling let itself become sooo twisted that it nearly disappeared up its own drug addled backside it is compelling.
The verdict is that in 2012 cycling has already turned its corner thank goodness and the drug abuse on the Armstrong scale is a thing of the past and for that sport should be grateful.
If Armstrong is your hero then thats OK. What this documentary shows is that he is a man, with all the desires and failings of a normal man, coupled with an incredible ambition and arrogance. A man who clearly believed and probably still believes the end justifies the means.
But in the wider context, if he continued to lead a life full of good and charitable works who is to say that those that benefit from it shouldn't be grateful for the choices and decisions he has made.
This is a great documentary. If you have an interest in this story at 2 hours it is long listen but a worthwhile one.
No Hits, No Hype.......................Classic Rock Jan 2012
- Loved Cavs final stage win, - I thought he went too early, - the win the day before was even better to watch WOW!!!
This is in large part due to the presence of Contador - I never really used to be a fan, but I am now because AC at least has the cojones to go and attack. It should be a fascinating contest between him and Froome.
Cathy
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