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I'm often one to see RBull's hand in most things but this time it was Force India, Ferrari and Lotus that blocked the planned change to a Kevlar belt again.
Its hear that the FIA need to act. All the teams will NEVER agree for the reasons you rightly point out Ian. Some cars will respond in some conditions, to some tyres, better than others.
A switch to last years tyres will actually suit Red Bull, McLaren, and probably Lotus actually, but Pirelli were proposing a new kevlar bonded tyre which would be more durable but retain the characteristics of the steel belted one they are currently using. Lotus didn't like the sound of that so were one of the teams blocking the move.

I don't fully appreciate all the nuances. Red Bull isn't the fastest car this year, the Merc probably is, but they are being hampered by their inherent over working of the rear tyre. That leaves RBull as the best compromise in all circumstances, so hence no protest from them....this time. Merc would welcome the new design because they seem to have a better handle on their problems this year than last, so last years tyres might not suit them so they would probably object to that.......and so on and so forth.

Short term fix.........last years tyre design, Vettel wins the championship, Merc are hobbled and back to square one and that no doubt would be just desserts in the eyes of Ferrari and Christian Horner for their 'illegal' tyre testing. Roll on next year......

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Thankfully the threatened drivers' walk out after the British Grand Prix tyre fiasco never materialised so we got to see a reasonably uneventful German grand prix, which this year was held at the Nurburgring rather than Hockenheim.  Not suprisingly German marques and drivers did well in qualifying but it was Sebastian Vettel who won his very first German Grand Prix in front of a rapturous home crowd.  But let's hear it again for Team Lotus who finished second and third.  Roman Grosjean behaved himself this weekend and drove marvellously to fend off a charging Alonso in the latter part of the race and Kimi just needed a few more laps on his soft tyres and he might, just might, have made an overtaking move on Vettel.  Who knows, they could be team mates next year. 

This leaves Vettel in front of Alonso who is in front of Raikkonen for the driver's championship.

Unfortunately a cameraman got walloped by a runaway tyre from Mark Webber's car during a pitstop.  Hopefully he's ok.  But it's charged the FIA to bring forward some measures they were proposing for 2014 in terms of reducing speeds in the pit lane and restricting camera crews to the pit wall.  It always seemed absurd to me that you had the team in their full protective gear but camera crews were allowed to walk around in shorts and t-shirts.

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When F1 is on its annual hiatus Austopsort generally deleves back in time to remind the reader of classic seasons of the past and last weeks issue featured 1973.

I have to say that the 70's were my favoured period, although gruesome, mainly because aerodynamics had not 'changed' the game so much at that point and mechanical grip with fat tyres was still king.

It was a great season'73 but ultimately a tragic one, with the loss of both Roger Williamson and Francois Cevert in awful crashes as well as the F1 career ending injruies for Andrea De Adamich.

Tucked away in the mag though is a link to a fabulous film ' Champions Forever: The Formula One Drivers'.

At 87 minutes it is a brilliant piece of historic F1 viewing. Most of the footage I have never seen before and there is masses of it. Up close footage of all the classic cars and drivers of the era. A lap of Monaco on an ISO Marlboro. Jackie Stewart talking and driving us around the Nordschleife in a Rolls Royce!

Extensive interviews with Francois Cevert prior to his untimely death at Watkins Glen. The Glen itself is featured in all its '70's glory with the crazy fan antics it was famous for. At Monaco they were still building the hotel over the tunnel and from the seat of the ISO that tunnel is unbelievably dark.

Narration is by Stacey Keach and he does his best with a cheesy script but there are some valid points. At around 56 minues there is a sequence of Grand Prix starts from the season which are quite breathtaking and I have to say, disorderly. 57 minutes features the moment when Jody Scheckter dropped it at Silverstone at the start of the lap and then chaos ensures. It is filmed from the pitwall!

The aftermath of this near disaster is almost comical with flag waving marshals wearing nothing more than jeans and T-shirts dodge through smouldering wreckage. Then you have to admire there bravery as the cars that had made it through thunder onto the straight to start another lap................I think there is even Colin Chapman on the circuit picking up bits of car.................

Comparing all this to F1 in 2013 and you have to admire the work that has been done to make all forms of racing safer and rightly so. Williamsons gruesome death is shown in its entirety here. It is appalling both in terms of the inadequacies of the circuit and its marshalling as well as the ignorance and callousness of the other drivers who continued to drive past the scene and failed to assist David Purley in his rescue attempts.

Ceverts contributions are poignant given that shortly after he made them he lost his life. However, at least he was racing at the front end for wins and honours. Much of the footage features lesser known drivers in lesser equipment and it is great to see them being given equal billing for a change. And that is what this film is all about. The drivers. I found it very enjoyable.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4Clc7tzDcs&hd=1

MikeH

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Great find! Thank you for posting this!

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Thanks Mike! I love it.
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Haen't seen this yet,but similar footage of Williamson's crash has quotes from other drivers-maybe even Jackie Stewart? i could be wrong-saying no-one stopped because "you often drove through fire in those days..."....chilling indeed.Ah,was from the documentary 'Hunt vs Lauda',the story of the 76 season?

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Yes it was a direct quote of Stewart's and it was a fact too. There's an interview in the film with Mike Hailwood who recounts rescuing Clay Reggazzoni from his burning BRM after they tangled. The footage is pretty dramatic too with Hailwoods gloves and overalls going up in flames. Other cars continue to circulate.

The races were not stopped then. There were no clear lines of responsibility in those days. National clubs without the necessary expertise were responsible for staging the race while dodgy promoters trousered the dosh.

There is a picture in Autosport from the scene of Cevert's accident. 3 cars are passing while several people wait nochanantly by the wreck. One of the cars passing is Stewart himself. Cevert's car lies upside down having landed directly on top of the barrier. Cevert is still in the car. Stewart did in fact stop at scene and as he said himself "I stayed too long, but not long enough.........."

Stewart got back in the car and drove back to the pits. He was already World Champion and his best friend was dead. Later he even practised his car again lest the team thought it had been a mechanical failure. He thought they needed that. Tyrrell withdrew the car that evening and Stewart's F1 career was over.

You look at the recent outcry over the Pirelli tyre failures; drivers threatening boycotts and so on. They are right to do so. There is no point in learning from these tragedies and then failing to act when something happens.


It was a fantastic era, true lionhearts behind the wheel, with unbelievable passion and courage. They should have been better protected

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Rather than starting another thread, I figured I would add this to the current one.

Is anyone else waiting, with great anticipation, for the release of the movie RUSH?  I think it should be coming at some point in September, here in the States.  I think this may just be the racing movie that gets it right.

I remember when the news came on with the footage of Niki's crash and that he was in the hospital in critical condition.  Being a young child who loved racing and was both a huge fan of Niki and James it brought me to tears.  I have not looked forward to a film this much since SENNA.

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Spa.

Not the challenge it once was now that the run off at Eau Rouge provides the necessary comfort zone for the drivers to take it flat without a second thought. Pouhon is now the corner which at least makes them think and possibly lift, a bit.

That said it is a drivers track and it the boys with balls that excel there. Not many make a move stick at Eau Rouge and when Mark Webber put his life in Alonso's hands a couple of years ago it was necessary to hold your breath for a second. Mark is gonna be missed next year.

Vettel has dyed his hair blond so he will be hoping he doesn't have a 'blond moment'. He probably starts as favourite but if Mercedes has used this 4 week break to good advantage then I fancy him Lewis to be right in the mix.
Weather here in Europe is fair and I reckon it could be a dry weekend, but if it does rain then Alonso will be in with a chance as well.

F1. Good to have it back................

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Chuck Johnson wrote:

Rather than starting another thread, I figured I would add this to the current one.

Is anyone else waiting, with great anticipation, for the release of the movie RUSH?  I think it should be coming at some point in September, here in the States.  I think this may just be the racing movie that gets it right.

I remember when the news came on with the footage of Niki's crash and that he was in the hospital in critical condition.  Being a young child who loved racing and was both a huge fan of Niki and James it brought me to tears.  I have not looked forward to a film this much since SENNA.

Yes chuck, I am salivating over the thing.

Motor racing films often don't come up to scratch because the script is so poor. Difficult to sustain a film about the sport without adding some off track drama to spice it up.

Grand Prix is really the only benchmark, using the real tracks and drivers and by spicing the action up with using an almost fatal injury to one driver to provide some off track interest.

Of course, Rush has almost the same plot but with the added twist that it is all true. '76 you couldn't make up. It was my first season following the circus around Europe and 1976 had everything. A head to head Championship battle, disqualifications, safety demonstrations, the leading drivers taking part in BMW M1 ProCar races on the Saturday, a 6 wheel F1 car, the BBC blocking F1 coverage because Alan Jones Surtees had sponsorship from a UK condom manufacturer, and the championship leader having a near fatal crash and coming back within 2 races! Crazy.

I know Lauda coming back so soon after the crash was very brave, but in my honest opinion the bravest thing he ever did was pulling into the pits at Fuji and stepping out of the car. That took real guts.

RUSH? Oh yeah, I'll be there, with my daughter, who amazingly is/has become an F1 petrolhead!

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Just on RUSH again, looking at the photos and shots on the website German actor Daniel Bruehl is an absolute ringer for Lauda. He has the mannerisms and look to a tee.

If the film is a hit then Bruehl could be catapulted into the A league. I've seen him in a number of movies and he is a well respected young German actor and worthy of the accolades.

I wonder what the movie will do for F1. Again, if a commercial success it could really give the sport and enormous injection of general interest. Some would argue, isn't already high profile enough? In a way, but currently only 3 teams are actually solvent, even with all the money they get from the sport. A far cry from Hesketh in 1973 taking their F3 team and buying a March and putting James Hunt into F1, with 3 DFV engines costing 9000 quid each.

I wonder if the film will show the two a little later in life. Lauda as ever the savvy businessman, returning to the sport to earn some cash to save his airline before retiring finally as one of the grandees of the sport. James on the other hand commentating and having to sell his Mercedes to pay the gas bill before dying way too early at the age of 45.

I really hope Ron Howard has been able to do justice to it all.

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Well, that was rotuine wasn't it? Routine for Vettel and RB anyway. Zonks past Hamilton after 3 corners and then gets himself 7 seconds up the road sharpish and controlled the damn thing from there.

No rain, unfortunately which kight have spiced it a bit. Good drive from Alonso who all and more that he could but at no time was he threat.

Thought Sutil did well again after a poor start, while Button seem to maximise what he had. Shame to see Raikkonen lose his finishing record and business as usual for Maldonaldo losing the plot through the chicane and taking out Di Resta.

Great circuit though. Still love the place and there were some good camera views right throughout. Looks like 4 in a row for Vettel. Roll on next year.

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Spa is one circuit I'd really like to go to one day.  Slightly dull race in many ways and particularly disappointing for Hammy when the charging Bull waltzed past him on the first lap.

Anyway, another weekend another country and what should be a thrilling race at Monza.  Ferrari ought to have the home advantage and Alonso needs the win if he's to stay in contention for the title.

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Shame in a way Vettel was booed on the podium on Sunday. But he has the ultimate revenge in that he has the points.

It can be a little tedious when one team/driver dominates and he will surely win his 4th title this year but it underlines what a complete package Vettel and Red Bull are. He is a top drawer driver, able to cope with adversity when it crops up and manage the car as it requires. Basically the others just are not doing as good a job and Vettel cannot be blamed for that.

Alonso is his equal and probably more but if he can't get the thing on pole or near to it, and then his team makes dodgy calls (with the best intentions) then his race is immediately compromised. His pass on Webber on Sunday was very ballsy but Vettel was already 4 seconds up the road, albeit nursing a flat spot on his front tyre.

The rest have shot themselves in the foot this year. McLarens over optimistic design leap has failed, Lotus struggle in the development arms race and Merc just are not quite ready to come from so far back and challenge consistently, although to be fair they have made excellent progress this year.

Just as last year at this time Red Bull go into the 'flyaway' phase of races at tracks where they have few chinks in the armour having won at 2 lower downforce tracks where previously they have underperformed. Once again, Newey and his team has evolved the car through the season and have honed it beyond the others for the final run in. It is all over bar the shouting.

RUSH is out this week and this at least will show the variety that is possible in F1. I hope the film is as good as I would like it to be. If Ron Howard has nailed it there is a chance it could be a major hit. I hope so, as it is a story worthy of being told.

Lauda is a legend in the sport and has lived his life pretty much on his own terms. His behind the scenes performances for RTL on racedays is just magic. He says what he thinks and damn the politics. In that respect he and Hunt were so very alike and yet at the same time utterly different characters.

I can't wait to see the movie.

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Return of the Iceman!

Who would have thought that was a possibility after he won the opening race this year so convincingly. But Kimi has got his mojo right back on track and now he is going back to the team where he seemed to lose it.

I'm never too sure about returning to a team but I have to say I find this one interesting. I don't think Ferrari can actually engineer 2 cars to the same standard. They have always, always seemd to favour 1 driver over the other and on the face of it, it cannot work. However, they have been without a team title for so long it makes sense to bring a guy that nearly always brings the car home in the points.

He will challenge Alonso, no question. They are both top, top liners and this line up makes Ferrari stronger, no question about that. They must now up their game. They will, of course, take points off each other, and it may make for some uncomfortable moments as the season (2014) goes on. But if Ferrari are true to their nature they shouldn't worry about that, for as long as ferrari win the title then they shouldn't really care.

With this development, who knows? Maybe Alonso won't finish his career there after all?

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hansamike wrote:

Return of the Iceman!

Oh yes! Read in the news this morning that Fernando isn't that happy. I'm a bit surprised Kimi's returning but where else could he realistically go?  Red Bull were waiting in the wings (there's an advertising strapline in there somewhere....) but other than stay at Lotus he doesn't really fit.  So for me it's a problem solved.  Now I can support Ferrari with Kimi as a team member! Cool Finn meets hot and fiery Latino ... should make for very interesting races next year.

On an aside, I'm really keen to watch Rush. I remember my dad calling me to watch the race which guaranteed James Hunt the championship and for that, thanks Dad :-) but more than that its the relationship between the two drivers which intrigues me.  Reviews suggest Ron Howard has done a good job.

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Not exactly F1, but vintage F1 will be represented. Goodwood is streaming live this weekend. The promo had a vid of very cool GT40 Fords from past events charging about. Enjoy! http://fortyonesix.com/news/1384/watch- … -live-here
Rick

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RickB wrote:

Not exactly F1, but vintage F1 will be represented. Goodwood is streaming live this weekend. The promo had a vid of very cool GT40 Fords from past events charging about. Enjoy! http://fortyonesix.com/news/1384/watch- … -live-here
Rick

Thanks Rick. Excellent link

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