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Wasn't Revolver once voted the number one album of all time by someone reputable.  And come to think of it,  I remember Sgt. Peppers getting the same accolade.  Ditto from me hearing Joe play a Rickenbacher!  I've always loved their sound.

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ReverendPaul wrote:

More of a Rutles fan myself.

All You Need Is Cash...............The Rutles.

Did anybody steam their Yesterday & Today album cover to discover this:

http://www.eskimo.com/~bpentium/posters … sters.html

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What is success? Is it do yo' own thang, or is it to join the rest?   -Allen Toussaint

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ReverendPaul wrote:
ken wrote:
ReverendPaul wrote:

More of a Rutles fan myself.

Don't forget the greatness that was The Monkees! wink

Do you remember the musical powerhouse of the New Monkees?

and how about Beatallica??

You Can Do Anything You Want To Do

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bigjeffjones wrote:

Crossroads, play "I Saw Here Standing There"
There's a bass line with some elvis/motowm/r&b on it.

Thank you very much.
Doc

Yeah, Doc I like that but I doubt I could get it past the guitarist who is a fuzz nutted kid, missed the Beatles by two generations and dismisses any band that could fit in a pop genre.

He was listening to Robin Trower albums when he was 10, so fairly consistant I suppose.
Earlier in the thread I said that the bass line of Come Together was instantly recognized by everbody,well that's everybody on the planet except the guitarist in the band I play in.

Scene 1 - Rehearsal room - I play the opening four bars of Come Together on bass

What's that ?
Come Together.
What ?
You know, Beatles/Abbey Road ?
Don't know it.

(Stunned silence from bassman and drummer,meaningful exchange of looks, do we kill him now or run the band a couple of years and then kill him ?)

No Ordinary Joe

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ReverendPaul wrote:
ken wrote:
ReverendPaul wrote:

More of a Rutles fan myself.

Don't forget the greatness that was The Monkees! wink

Do you remember the musical powerhouse of the New Monkees?

Great group The Monkees, unlike that insipid manufactured 'boy band' from Liverpool, the great American Monkees had real credibility.They played all their instruments and wrote most of their music.I hear they spent two years on The Reeperbahn playing three sets a night in the Indra Club for two years, writing their own songs and crafting a stage act that would electrify the World.
Those great  Monkees songs would later be the most covered songs in history.
The Monkees were real people , a real band. They used to sleep under the a cinema stage at night and mugged people down the Hamburg docks when they were short of cash.They changed a generation of art and fashion with Astrid Kirchherr's black and white photography,the invention of the pop video,lyrics on sleevenotes and gatefold albums.
Monkees music was great and will stand the test of time. When The Monkees hit the UK singles chart for the first time, Rock n Roll was dead and Sixties Pop Culture was born.

The Beatles ? Yeah, nice bubblegum pop songs for 12 year olds.

No Ordinary Joe

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Good Gawd Crossroads your tongue is so firmly planted in cheek here it most likely will have to be surgically removed, awesome post. One serious note about The Monkees they made barrels of cash for Tommy Boyce & Bobby Hart, the pair that penned almost all their songs. Yeah, The Beatles, kind of an after thought really.

                                                                                      Take The Last Train To Clarksville,

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P.S. Was Davey really the cutest one???????????

What is success? Is it do yo' own thang, or is it to join the rest?   -Allen Toussaint

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crossroads wrote:
ReverendPaul wrote:
ken wrote:

Don't forget the greatness that was The Monkees! wink

Do you remember the musical powerhouse of the New Monkees?

Great group The Monkees, unlike that insipid manufactured 'boy band' from Liverpool, the great American Monkees had real credibility.They played all their instruments and wrote most of their music.I hear they spent two years on The Reeperbahn playing three sets a night in the Indra Club for two years, writing their own songs and crafting a stage act that would electrify the World.
Those great  Monkees songs would later be the most covered songs in history.
The Monkees were real people , a real band. They used to sleep under the a cinema stage at night and mugged people down the Hamburg docks when they were short of cash.They changed a generation of art and fashion with Astrid Kirchherr's black and white photography,the invention of the pop video,lyrics on sleevenotes and gatefold albums.
Monkees music was great and will stand the test of time. When The Monkees hit the UK singles chart for the first time, Rock n Roll was dead and Sixties Pop Culture was born.

The Beatles ? Yeah, nice bubblegum pop songs for 12 year olds.

Bubblegum lyrics like: Happiness is a warm gun.........bang bang shoo-oowoo-woot.

What is success? Is it do yo' own thang, or is it to join the rest?   -Allen Toussaint

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Hey Geoff,

Across the pond or not, we are on the same wavelength.  If I were to sum up Joe in a sentence...Joe Bonamassa is the best thing to happen to my record collection since the British Invasion!  I heard its your birthday, well Happy Birthday to you...:)

To the other Geoff- gsj- my sentiments exactly...the best past, present and probably future.  In My Life...I love them all!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym0x3vTw6yc

Jim-First, fabulous post, about my fav Fab Four.  Next, just curious, are you referencing Nick from J & R?  Nick, whoever you are, no offense, I think I'm assigning you some homework...Beatles 101...I offer my teaching services free! Geez, it must be a generation gap thing...I think maybe my greatest contribution to my children is turning them on to the Beatles.  big_smile  For my 16 year year daughter, her morning routine before school is either John Mayer or the Beatles.  I have to say, the Beatles sound better over the roar of her hair dryer, adds a little Beatlemania drama, especially when she is having a bad hair day. She went to a Bat-Mitvah celebration recently and said all the mom's like me (I wonder what that really means?) hit the dance floor with Twist and Shout. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_59n86U3Dvs    I can't tell you how many times I walk by child#2's bedroom and he's uncovered another band or musician that sounds so Beatles or John-like.  How could one ever measure the influence of the the Beatles???

I LOVE THEM
YEAH YEAH YEAH

Stu- thanks for the visual, I knew exactly what you were describing, my in-laws still have the long console in their living room, its nice furniture actually.  And, I am so sentimental about Rubber Soul, it was my first ever album purchase for $3.99 in Lit Brothers Department store.  I mentioned before, when I got a new cell phone, my son set it all up for me & surprised me with the Rubber Soul album cover as the background.  Patty-  still thinking about Joe and Norwegian Wood?

Curby- 2 great albums you mentioned.  The Beatles were so innovative and ahead of their time...think music videos.  Rolling Stone did a nice story about Sgt. Pepper a few years back when it graced their cover.  We named our house recording studio, Penny Lane. Revovler was mentioned many times as the major album influence by several rockers in a guitar mag's list of influences.  The wiki info is cool to read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Pepper's_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band
http://www.google.com/search?client=saf … p;oe=UTF-8

Also, about the Rickenbacker; does anyone know if Joe owns a Rickenbacker in his guitar arsenal?  I was shocked when I read this about Rickenbacker being the largest guitar manufacturer that makes everything in the United States?!  So, as fans we should all chip in and buy Joe a Rickenbacker, I'll transport it to the RAH so Joe can play it and we'll even be stimulating the economy while we're at it! wink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickenbacker



Geoff wrote:

I was at school on Merseyside when that seminal moment hit me - who the.....? what the .....?, Then I skipped off school and regularly went down to the Cavern for the lunchtime sessions. Small steamy, sweaty, smelly, noisy.... it was new, it was vibrant it set me on my path into life. The next moment like that came just two years ago.... I switched on the car radio half way through a tune that blew my socks off, the program was the Paul Jones show, the tune was from an album called You and Me and the artist......? Just like the Beatle, the rest is history - Thank you John Paul George Ringo and of course George Martin who was instrumental in the editing - Oh yes, and thank you Joe!

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Angela. No I was refering NPB_Est1979. There is a Beatles tribute band 1964 that come through Norman Oklahoma every year around this time. My youngest son Colin and I have been going together for about 10 years off and on. My oldest son who was born in 1980 Nick. Started out listening to rap. The music he listens to now was more influenced by the Beatles than anything else. The alternative art pop has Lenon and McCartney all over it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEYResEo354

The real thing

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Angela -  You sound like a cool Mom.  My mother didn't push any of her music on me but I absorbed it through osmosis because she was playing it all the time.  Her favorite was Frank and wouldn't you know it - I love his music too.

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Curby wrote:

Angela -  You sound like a cool Mom.  My mother didn't push any of her music on me but I absorbed it through osmosis because she was playing it all the time.  Her favorite was Frank and wouldn't you know it - I love his music too.

Hi Curby
One could never go wrong with...I've Got You Under My Skin...Timeless like the Beatles...Also, not everything can be absorbed through osmosis...my 2 sons are very opinionated when it comes to music.  They will make their negative comments when Bruce Springsteen takes the stage at the Super Bowl (they can't stand his voice and don't like Dave Matthews either like some of their friends) and they think the Who and the Rollings Stones are possibly the 2 most overrated bands out there.  However, when Martin Scorcese used some Stones music in a movie, they did get into Let It Bleed, my personal fav. Personally, I think they are a little rigid & the toughest critics.

Long Live the Beatles Music smile

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mikeb wrote:
ReverendPaul wrote:
ken wrote:

Don't forget the greatness that was The Monkees! wink

Do you remember the musical powerhouse of the New Monkees?

and how about Beatallica??


Yes Beatallica from my neck of the woods (Milwaukee). Great to hear a band that can make both Beatles and Metallica pop songs listenable.

When I was a child I spoke as a child, But all I heard was how I should get ahead,
Now growing up it ain't anything but all This indecision with these debts and doubts
And worries hanging over my head. When I was a child I spoke as a child,
I wish I could remember what I said.

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Angela,

The Stones overrated?  That's blasphemy!  My son possesses a little attitude himself, but in his defense he probably idolizes Joe more than his Dad.  You're absolutely right about Let It Bleed's significance, but really everything from Goats Head Soup backward was incredible.  I came across a recent recording by Mick and Dave Stewart on the Alfie Soundtrack called "Old Habits Die Hard" that's a great little song.  Just goes to show Mr. Jagger at sixty something can still belt out a good tune.  Btw, there's a reprise version of the same song off Alfie that I like even better and recommend giving it a listen.

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Angela wrote:

and they think the Who and the Rollings Stones are possibly the 2 most overrated bands out there

Angela, your sons are perfectly right, at least concerning the last 3o years. Nonetheless "Let it Bleed" is excellent.
Günter

Rock On and Keep the Faith

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Eva´s Dad wrote:
Angela wrote:

and they think the Who and the Rollings Stones are possibly the 2 most overrated bands out there

Angela, your sons are perfectly right, at least concerning the last 3o years. Nonetheless "Let it Bleed" is excellent.
Günter

Personally I'd rate them (as my faves) #1 the Who, #2 Stones, #3 Beatles.  The Who nowadays are only a shell of what they were 30 or 40 years ago. John Entwhistle and Keith Moon were the heart and soul of that band (among the best ever bass players and drummers) and unfortunately now they're pushing up daisies. I'd have to rate Pink Floyd and Led Zepplin way ahead of both the Stones and Beatles on my fave Brit Invasion bands.

I feel that the Beatles were just mediocre musicians (I know - blasphemy...), but McCartney and Lennon were certainly among the most prolific song writers EVER. Back in the 60s I was just a rebellious young punk and I found the Beatles far too mellow to assuage the angry hormones racing through me.  If The Who had never been formed, would there ever have been the Ramones or Sex Pistols?  The Who were (to my knowledge) the first punk rock band. But now I'm getting off topic again...

Major Tom to ground control...

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RICjunkie wrote:

I'd have to rate Pink Floyd and Led Zepplin way ahead of both the Stones .

Agree . As to the Beatles - I think you can´t really take them in this kind of ranking, because they are of a different category. They are not only a pop/rock group, but more a piece of art or a cultural institution. You are right: they are/were not the best musicians, not the best singers, not the best looking guys etc., but they had a synthesis of good songs, a good performance, good lyrics, intelligent/intellectual statements, acting out a lifestyle of a generation and inviting to identify with.

And nowadays everybody knows them and their songs, they are part of the collective knowledge. If we have nearby a village festival with this terrible Bavarian ooomta-music, you can be sure to hear a lot of Beatles songs, but only one Stones song (starting with S).
Günter

Rock On and Keep the Faith

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Eva´s Dad wrote:
RICjunkie wrote:

I'd have to rate Pink Floyd and Led Zepplin way ahead of both the Stones .

Agree . As to the Beatles - I think you can´t really take them in this kind of ranking, because they are of a different category. They are not only a pop/rock group, but more a piece of art or a cultural institution. You are right: they are/were not the best musicians, not the best singers, not the best looking guys etc., but they had a synthesis of good songs, a good performance, good lyrics, intelligent/intellectual statements, acting out a lifestyle of a generation and inviting to identify with.

And nowadays everybody knows them and their songs, they are part of the collective knowledge. If we have nearby a village festival with this terrible Bavarian ooomta-music, you can be sure to hear a lot of Beatles songs, but only one Stones song (starting with S).
Günter

Günter I agree with your assessment of them being pop stars.  The 60's version of Backstreet Boys.  The Beatles success was partly that Brian Epstein was such a good promoter (got them that early gig on Ed Sullivan) and partly I think that 90% of all the women in their child bearing years wanted Sir Paul to father their offspring... (question - how DID he wind up with that psycho Heather Mills???)
Come to think of it, I've never heard a song by The Who converted to Muzak (elevator music).

Major Tom to ground control...

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The Backstreet Boys and the Beatles in the same sentence?  Shirley you jest!  Brian Epstein and Ed Sullivan were certainly major players for the Beatles early success, but imo they were nothing more than bystanders.