Topic: Tman's (8yr old blues guitarist): child labor, agent death threats...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080812/ap_ … FsTAcDW7oF

8-year-old guitar wiz has reason to play the blues

ELKHORN, Wis. - When Tallan "T-Man" Latz was 5, he saw Joe Satriani playing guitar on TV. "I turned around to my dad and said, 'That's exactly what I want to do.'"
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Three years and countless hours of practicing later, 8-year-old Tallan is a blues guitar prodigy. He's played in bars and clubs, including the House of Blues in Chicago, and even jammed with Les Paul and Jackson Browne. He has a summer of festivals scheduled and has drawn interest from venues worldwide.

And what, you might ask, would a kid not even in the third grade have the blues about? The state of Wisconsin for one, and some possibly jealous older musicians for another.

An anonymous e-mail sent to state officials complained that Tallan was too young to perform in taverns and nightclubs because of state child labor laws. His booking agent even got an anonymous letter threatening her with death if she keeps booking him.

When Tallan's father read him the state's letter saying he couldn't play clubs anymore (he can still play festivals), the boy's response — like his music — seemed beyond his years.

"He goes, 'It's not how many times you get knocked down but it's how many times you get back up and go forward,' Carl Latz said his son told him. "And I told him that's exactly what this is all about and if nothing else this letter just taught you a life lesson."

The lesson can be stiff: Each day he performs, the employer can be fined $25 to $1,000 and the parent from $10 to $250.

Jennifer Ortiz of the state Equal Rights Division said her agency has a responsibility to enforce the law once it becomes aware of a violation.

"Well, the law prohibits it, and the Legislature enacted the laws to protect the health, safety and welfare of all children."

Latz, who also is Tallan's manager, has asked a legislator for help changing the law but it's unclear whether any action will be taken.

Latz received the letter a few days before Tallan was to perform at Lil Downtown Lounge in suburban Milwaukee, where club co-owner Michelle Boche said the boy always packed the place when he sat in with other musicians.

Latz claims that two weeks before getting the letter he overheard local blues guitarist Jammin' Jimmy, whose real name is James Kemeny, say Tallan shouldn't be in a bar and he was going to turn him in.

Kemeny, who's been playing for 44 years, denied badmouthing Tallan.

"It seems totally unbelievable that somebody would even go to that extreme to send a letter to somebody, let alone looking to find something about child labor laws," Kemeny said.

Boche said she has received backlash from musicians and area bar owners because she supports Tallan. Some have tried to take patrons away, she said. Some even called in fake incidents to police, causing them to look for guns or underage drinkers, she said.

"If my doors close and I never open again and this boy becomes successful, then I will be the happiest person in the world," she said.

Tallan's agent, Sharon Pomaville, said she received a threatening letter June 2 warning her to stop booking the boy. She thinks he's a local musician and believes he's harmless. Deputies came to her house, but she didn't want to pursue the case.

Greg Koch, 42, an internationally known guitarist and clinician for Fender Musical Instruments, called the backlash despicable.

He said most 8-year-olds don't have the strength or attention span to pursue guitar or can't endure the calluses.

"It's strange that a kid at this age would glean onto this particular kind of music and show the intensity and kind of the ability to function as kind of 8-year-old blues guy," he said.

Brad Tolinski, editor-in-chief of Guitar World magazine, said kid guitar prodigies are rare, with one emerging perhaps every four or five years.

"It would be unusual to find an 8-year-old who can play Joe Satriani licks," he said.

Carl Latz said there's no explanation for Tallan's blues connection other than he seems to have an old soul.

"I've had more people tell me, they say 'It's a kid's body but it has a 70-year-old dude inside,'" Carl Latz said.

Tallan, whose heroes are Jimi Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughan, has 13 guitars and endorsements from at least nine companies to use their equipment. He can read music but plays mostly from memory.

He has two bands — one with veterans called T-Man's Blues Project and another with 16-and-younger bandmates called Tallan "The T-Man" Latz and the Young Guns. He also sings and plays drums, harmonica, bass and piano.

Tallan said he likes to play guitar to "put smiles on people's faces" when they are having a bad day.

"It sounds awesome," he said. "I think it's so much you can do on the guitar."

He knows 30 to 40 songs and someday hopes to write his own. It was his idea to start playing in public.

"He drags me around," his dad said. "I don't drag him around."

Tallan said the problems he's faced have doing nothing to dampen his ambition to be a blues rock star when he grows up. Just the opposite, in fact.

"Because I got more inspiration, I got more sadness in me," Tallan said. "I'm just feelin' it."

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Re: Tman's (8yr old blues guitarist): child labor, agent death threats...

I thought this had been straightened out!!??%$#! Tallan really is EXCEPTIONAL. I hope he is getting support with all this from his local Blues Society. There are other options, but I'm sure his "people" know more than I do. Nobody ever said this was a "nice" industry. I'm not surprised to see it's also not child friendly. My best to this little guy!!!    Cathy

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That is a strange situation. In Oklahoma which has very antiquated liquor laws allows minors to work in bars with a affidavid of parental approval. The parent doesn't even have to be there. The only way a minor can be in a bar here is to be working at one. There are underage persons that jam at clubs all over town. Even though that aren't getting paid they are still considered working.

I understand both arguments. Should an eight year old be in a bar? Probably not. Should an eight year be old be able to play in a bar? Yes if he isn't breaking any other child labor laws. If he isn't getting paid then he isn't working. Seems to be more complicated than that.

For one I think he will be 21 a lot longer than he won't. So relax there is plenty of time. On the other hand he will only be a prodigy for a few more years. Then he is just another good guitar player possibly. So the novelty is something you have to take advantage of now. Unfortunatley to play the blues you got to play the bars. Evidently there is a law forbidding it. I'm sure they weren't thinking of musicians when the law was written but it does apply to them.

Whatever motivated someone to rat him out shouldn't matter. Might have saved somebody a fine by getting the warning that the law prohibited it. Death threats seem a little extreme this isn't professional ice skating we are talking about.

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Re: Tman's (8yr old blues guitarist): child labor, agent death threats...

Death threats???? Jeez a mighty, what the hell is wrong with some people!  I say play on & ROCK ON Tallan! I'm betting enough good graces of people will rescue any foreboding situation that arises.  People can & do get outraged over rights denied or abuses, but if things look like someone huffing and puffing and making mountains out of mole hills....If the bar is willing to take the risk, why worry?  Jennifer Ortiz better beware herself.  No, that's not a death threat. It IS a threat though.  Public backlash when a supposed public servant is often ruinous to a "career" in government, as staunch (usually same political party) supporters will bristle at the thought of themselves also "going down with the ship" with a government official perceived as a Captain of a a foolish ship.  All depends on how much an average person is behind the lad and his joyful pursuit.  IF the letters are swamping the authorities in outrage, then fine, sorry Tallan will have to look for exposure elsewhere.   Let him wait it out and play church functions or whatever can be arranged "legally", another example being a public park, with a permit if required.  Or a backyard event.  Play on one way or another.

Rock On & Keep the Faith (things will come out clean & stink free in the wash cycle),
Rocket

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Re: Tman's (8yr old blues guitarist): child labor, agent death threats...

exceptional novelty act, would love to see him if he came to town, obviously phenomenal player for his age with a lot of potential, nothing i really ever listen to or have much interest in, but death threats are ridiculous, and if the kid wants to play let him play basically they are saying if he werent taking money it would be legal becasue then it would be recreation and not labor right?

the law is the law, and he'll be more worthy of listening to when he is older.  i mean it is cute to hear an eight year old whose voice has yet to change sing the blues for a little bit, but then to me it wears very thin to the point of nausea.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fCdNsm7gvu8

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Re: Tman's (8yr old blues guitarist): child labor, agent death threats...

Has he written any music yet?

Re: Tman's (8yr old blues guitarist): child labor, agent death threats...

Rocket wrote:

Death threats?

The rumor is that his booking agent was the recipient of a death threat. That is ridiculous.

- Nic from Detroit... posting on JB's Forum since 6-2-2006
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Re: Tman's (8yr old blues guitarist): child labor, agent death threats...

To make one is absolutely ridiculous and a worse degree of immoral "illegality" than anything unsettling about a kid putting on the non-Ritz to a bunch of perhaps inebriated blues fans in bars that likely regularly draw name entertainment.

IF, and it's always a possibility (but I seem to doubt it) the booking agent is fabricating the death threat to generate "a million dollars worth of free publicity", it's striking while the iron is hot to forge Tallan's future and pure stroke of genius.  Either way, let nothing get in your way, ROCK ON T-Man!!! Keep the Strong Faith wink ,
Rocket

NPB_EST.1979 wrote:
Rocket wrote:

Death threats?

The rumor is that his booking agent was the recipient of a death threat. That is ridiculous.

"He still doesn't charge for mistakes! wink"
http://jbonamassa.com/tour-dates/
"Everybody wants ta get inta the act!"
“Now, this isn’t your ordinary party crowd, here.  I mean, there are professionals in here.”

Re: Tman's (8yr old blues guitarist): child labor, agent death threats...

In the clip I watched from Associated Press Tallan talks about getting "more inspiration"  from the "more sadness" that this situation has generated. This kid is only 8 years old?!? Talk about an "old soul"!  Will be interesting to see what develops from all this free publicity.

Sandy

"There's a lot of people that are in so much of a hurry to be, I guess, to be famous or that they don't want to take the time to learn to play and do all that.They'd rather just knock it down off a computer and maybe get on a game show and get famous..That's fine if that's what you want to do.
"We're more old school than that. We like creating the sounds."  - Tom Petty