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Topic: So Joe, do you know who Ed is now?

Was just watching the bonus behind the scenes stuff on the Radio City DVD and was shocked, shocked I tell ya, to discover that Joe hadn't heard of Ed Sheeran...

So my question to Joe is, have you checked him out now? :-P

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Re: So Joe, do you know who Ed is now?

I can tell you I know the name, I can tell you he's got red hair.
I can tell you he's got a signature baby Martin guitar and I know he can fill a 25,000 person stadium (mostly young girls I think)

I couldn't tell you one song of his, even if I heard him on the radio.

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Re: So Joe, do you know who Ed is now?

It is modern pop music. I know who he is only because my girlfriend likes his one big hit. He can sing, but, nothing special.....lump him in with all of the other pop guys who teenage girls love. He is not someone who I would expect to see on Joe's radar.

IMO, the one guy that is both pop and a great guitar player is Mayer. HE can play some guitar.

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Re: So Joe, do you know who Ed is now?

So are Bob Dylan’s songs "modern pop music"? Ed Sheeran should be applauded, regardless of him being “our” taste in music, - because he is a singer/SONGWRITER who has brought guitar based music to millions of teenagers. So IMO people should stop being so high ’n’ mighty about him (in the same way that they are about Adele).

The music industry has a massive problem in that it only wants performers who look “right” and do as they are told playing safe corporation music, interestingly both Adele and Ed Sheeran have something in common, - they both introduced a largely unaware population to the music of Bob Dylan, this is brilliant: https://youtu.be/aHMlAYeFeYw Open your closed minds people and judge somebody on their performance not on your taste..... wink Being popular does not mean they are without talent.

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Re: So Joe, do you know who Ed is now?

jbyrd1 wrote:

It is modern pop music. I know who he is only because my girlfriend likes his one big hit. He can sing, but, nothing special.....lump him in with all of the other pop guys who teenage girls love. He is not someone who I would expect to see on Joe's radar.

IMO, the one guy that is both pop and a great guitar player is Mayer. HE can play some guitar.

I'd have to agree with you on John Mayer. My jury was out on him for years till I saw him play with Dead & Co. in SF Dec. 27th. 2 thumbs up!

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Re: So Joe, do you know who Ed is now?

I've seen his concert video, whats with the "canned music" he uses?  Didn't care for it. By the way, Dylan is a singer, songwriter, musician - no prerecorded live music there. Everybody, Joe included, is entitled to their opinion. My wife loves him - I don't. I loved Joe's comment.

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Re: So Joe, do you know who Ed is now?

uncleraven wrote:

I loved Joe's comment.

guess I'm going to have to go back to the behind the scenes video and see what he says.

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Re: So Joe, do you know who Ed is now?

The real question is does Eddy know who Joe is!!

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gary wrote:

The real question is does Eddy know who Joe is!!

Probably not.  My grandkids and their friends have never  heard of Joe either.  But does it matter?

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Re: So Joe, do you know who Ed is now?

johnreardon wrote:
gary wrote:

The real question is does Eddy know who Joe is!!

Probably not.  My grandkids and their friends have never  heard of Joe either.  But does it matter?

10+ years street teaming? Yeah, it matters!

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Re: So Joe, do you know who Ed is now?

Sorry I have no idea what 'Street Teaming' is supposed to be, but my point was that it's not a competition. 

These two people are playing music, which is the main thing, in different genres,  so it's quite understandable that they may not be aware of each other.

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gary wrote:

The real question is does Eddy know who Joe is!!

Quite probably, he is a guitarist as well as a singer songwriter.

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uncleraven wrote:

I've seen his concert video, whats with the "canned music" he uses?  Didn't care for it. By the way, Dylan is a singer, songwriter, musician - no prerecorded live music there. Everybody, Joe included, is entitled to their opinion. My wife loves him - I don't. I loved Joe's comment.

It's not canned music. Everything you hear in his live concerts is live. He has the mutha of all looping systems and loops everything. Watch his live at Wembley show - mind-blowing what him and one guitar and a loop system can do.

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uncleraven wrote:

I've seen his concert video, whats with the "canned music" he uses?  Didn't care for it. By the way, Dylan is a singer, songwriter, musician - no prerecorded live music there. Everybody, Joe included, is entitled to their opinion. My wife loves him - I don't. I loved Joe's comment.

It's not canned music. Everything you hear in his live concerts is live. He has the mutha of all looping systems and loops everything. Watch his live at Wembley show - mind-blowing what him and one guitar and a loop system can do.

My point exactly, Ed may have played all the parts onto the loop but to me Live is all the sounds being performed at the moment the audience hears them by a person or people that it takes to create them.

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Re: So Joe, do you know who Ed is now?

I cannot stand Ed's voice. Hurts my ears.

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Re: So Joe, do you know who Ed is now?

uncleraven wrote:
Adrian J wrote:
uncleraven wrote:

I've seen his concert video, whats with the "canned music" he uses?  Didn't care for it. By the way, Dylan is a singer, songwriter, musician - no prerecorded live music there. Everybody, Joe included, is entitled to their opinion. My wife loves him - I don't. I loved Joe's comment.

It's not canned music. Everything you hear in his live concerts is live. He has the mutha of all looping systems and loops everything. Watch his live at Wembley show - mind-blowing what him and one guitar and a loop system can do.

My point exactly, Ed may have played all the parts onto the loop but to me Live is all the sounds being performed at the moment the audience hears them by a person or people that it takes to create them.

There's no 'may' about it.  He starts each song by building up his loops, just as others do.  Unfortunately when you see clips on TV shows, they often omit his build up so some think he does it by backing tracks.  People may not like it, but it's clever and even bands seem to be doing it these days. 

I'm old school preferring to plug straight into an amp.  For those that have Jodrell Bank size pedal boards, then a looper is just another one.

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Re: So Joe, do you know who Ed is now?

uncleraven wrote:
Adrian J wrote:
uncleraven wrote:

I've seen his concert video, whats with the "canned music" he uses?  Didn't care for it. By the way, Dylan is a singer, songwriter, musician - no prerecorded live music there. Everybody, Joe included, is entitled to their opinion. My wife loves him - I don't. I loved Joe's comment.

It's not canned music. Everything you hear in his live concerts is live. He has the mutha of all looping systems and loops everything. Watch his live at Wembley show - mind-blowing what him and one guitar and a loop system can do.

My point exactly, Ed may have played all the parts onto the loop but to me Live is all the sounds being performed at the moment the audience hears them by a person or people that it takes to create them.

Fair enough, but I reckon it would take me less practice to learn to play as well as Joe (or any of the blues greats) than it would to perform loop-based songs as well as Ed Sheeran.

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uncleraven wrote:

By the way, Dylan is a singer, songwriter, musician - no prerecorded live music there. Everybody, Joe included, is entitled to their opinion. My wife loves him - I don't. I loved Joe's comment.

and so is Ed Sheeran, he does not play to prerecorded music, and the point I was making is that he introduces music from the likes of Dylan to a young audience who otherwise would not know of it. - I understand that some people would prefer to keep their musical history secret behind their own wall, condescendingly looking down on on anybody who knows nothing of it, - but education is one of the few things in this world that when passed on takes nothing from the person who passed it.

loopers are not easy at all to work with live, and from what I have seen Ed uses multiple loopers to build up the sound layer upon layer, RECORDING it himself in front of the crowd. I guess some of you hate Joe’s studio albums if you don’t like a guitarists layering his work? - Joe does it often...... But as often seen here on this message board if it aint blues based minority appreciated rock it is going to be slagged off... Open those minds, it won’t hurt wink Old school the acceptable term for luddite? smile

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