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Topic: Why foreign emerging artists don't play the US

I've often wondered why we never hear of artists from across the pond playing here. Now I know why.
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Re: Why foreign emerging artists don't play the US

RickB wrote:

I've often wondered why we never hear of artists from across the pond playing here. Now I know why.
http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/11/t … l-touring/
Rick

Or they've heard about how many lesser named bands get their rental vans and equipment ripped off traveling the U. S, of A.???

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Re: Why foreign emerging artists don't play the US

I would be interested to learn of artist experience in the other direction. What difficulties do US artists have touring in Europe? Easier, or the same?

I think most people, certainly in these times, can understand the need for appropriate security checks etc. However, when bona fide companies (record companies in Europe/ Tour organisers in the US) provide the necessary supporting information for a band to visit or tour the US, then the departments responsible within US Immigration need to get with the programme. Denial of travel, sometimes after the travel date is simply unnacceptable given the potential costs involved.
I think there is a degree of protectionism in the way the US authorities behaves sometimes and a lot of distrust of anything 'un-American'. Sad state of affairs. It seems we can bomb and fight together but 'Hell.....you want to play music to us and subvert our youth.........NO way!'

Only joking.....but I see it becoming just as hard in the other direction. When the Schengen Agreement finally collapses and individual EU nations once again reimpose border controls then the 'Return of the Visa' will threaten a good deal of 'free movement' in Europe. A little bit 'tit for tat' maybe.

Is anyone else starting to get that 'Cold War' sort of feeling again?

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Re: Why foreign emerging artists don't play the US

I wonder if that why British artists such as Davy Knowles and to a lesser extent the likes of Matt Schofield have re-located to the US, in order to make it easier to get US gigs. (Okay- I know it's not their prime reason....) We have to look no further than a couple of months back when Oli Brown's RavenEye did a pledge fund-raiser to help with expenses on their US tour supporting Slash; an idea that was first done by Marillion years ago - fans asked, the band said they couldn't afford and before you know it fan power had a collection and funded the tour... I know a few years ago, talking to Martin Lewis and the possibility of getting Virgil & the Accelerators over to the US and they were looking £3,000 each for visas alone; Martin had this cool idea of getting a couple of young UK bands together and re-creating the British Blue Invasion of the 1960's, fifty years on.

Several things to look at though, there's a number of upcoming bands in the US, such as Ty Curtis, who don't or can't seem to tour beyond a 2 or 3 State range - it's only recommendations such as the forum produces, that get them known beyond this boundary. You could almost say the same for Ryan McGarvey but somehow, he's managed to leap over the Atlantic and does more gigs, 3 months in Europe than he does the rest of the year in the US...

Turning that last point slightly; there are a lot of great bands touring mainland Europe that we somehow never see play over here in the UK, while this "freedom of movement" still exists, yet plenty of UK bands hit the Europe trail, especially Germany, Austria; Belgium & Netherlands, with Spain, Poland & Czech Republic becoming more receptive markets.

One last thing I wonder, and its a bit of a pet peeve with me, is it purely financial, the number of US bands who come over here and do a UK tour of London? We may not be a big country, but we can't all jump on the train and fit into The Borderline, Jazz Café or even Shepherds Bush O2 at the same time. That said, certainly grateful to those who manage to call round, there's some crackin' bands touring, just a shame it does seem to be a one-way-trade.

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Re: Why foreign emerging artists don't play the US

I was shocked to see the tax imposed on foreign artists here. The visa hassles and fees are encountered all over. I've had to jump through hoops to get working visas for Latin American countries and Italy flat out banned me from any physical work at all. Canada is also onerous. I'm a field engineer and carry some tech stuff and light tools.
The reverse of US artists touring EU countries must be easy and lucrative. Otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. I know there are many local union rules that add additional costs here in my town. You can't use your own tour labor to load trucks for instance.
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