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You put 2,000 + with access to alcohol and your going to have a few idiots. Joe's crowds can range from rowdy to raucous I think it depends on the venue. He started out in a small theater and worked his way up to a cut arena over the years here and I have seen them all. The charged up crowd is common in any setting but the availability and access to spirits tends to increase the chances of somebody becoming obnoxious.

Joe's crowd is totally different then say a James Taylor crowd at the same venue. Similar demographics but James Taylor is a more laid back show. Joe takes people on a roller coaster ride of intensities from soft to loud unlike AC/DC that is full blown in your face and there are no quiet spots to ruin. James Taylor's rockin song is How Sweet it is to be Loved by You. The other difference is Joe's first show at the Civic Center I was told be the staff that he set the record for beverage sales since the room was open. He did that with a half house. That tells me Joe's crowd comes to party. James Taylor's crowd although a full house didn't even come close to the record. Again it is a different show and everybody there is in a laid back mood. Joe's crowd is charged up with excitement. That isn't a bad thing. That is why he brings them in.

Again you get someone excited and allow him to get drunk and you are going to have a few get obnoxious. Alcohol is how the venue makes it's revenue so the answer is tell security to worry less about cameras and more about obnoxious behavior. Of course when you confront a drunk the results aren't always pretty. So the usual usher may not be able to control the situation. Might need a uniformed officer to ask them nicely to STFU. I just don't think you have to throw the baby out with the bath water. It is up to the venue staff to control the crowd either by not serving a drunk or escorting out those misbehaving.

20 (edited by nmagcorn 2014-05-20 10:26:34)

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Exhuberance and whooping at key times is to be expected and a concert would be pretty dull if people sat there stone faced and still. But when continued outbursts disrupt a musician's flow of playing, then it has gone beyond what should be acceptable. In Syracuse, after shushing a loud and obnoxious drunk several times, telling him to "Shut UP!" and then sushing the crowd again a little later on, Joe handled it the best he could. And turning it up as loud as could be at the crescendo of the solo definitely seemed like a great way to not only blast the guy away, but also let out some pent up frustration at the whole thing.
You can see it starting about 8:34 http://youtu.be/CcZv_3b664M

Unfortunately venues make their money in alcohol sales, so they're not going to stop selling. But as Jim said the staff should then be trained to deal with the drunks when they do misbehave.

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so this really bugs me out . you pay good money to see a show who ever it is tickets aren't cheap these days and you go there to talk about stupid stuff that happened to you over the past few days . let me clue you in on something ever theater has a lobby you can go out there and talk your brains out and no one will care . MUSIC IS MADE TO BE LISTENED TO you cheer after the song is over . as for Joe I saw Syracuse to Hartford and every night Joe has to shhh the audience does that tell you something that he wants you to be quit . I play music also and when the band is playing real low you want it to be quit in the theater so you get the full effect of the song if everyone is yelling during the low parts it takes away from the music . I don't get why people have to yell while he is playing do you think by yelling his name out while he is playing he will stop playing and ask you what you want also last time I talked to Joe I got the feeling he liked woman so why do guys seem to yell out they love him am I missing something here I can see loving the music he plays but that's not what there yelling out and do u think he will stop playing and say I love you back and lets set up a date . if Joe or any other musician is going out of his way to tell people to STFU then you should listen to him . if I had a say in it I would hand out a little flyer at the door while people walked in telling them to be quit during music and to respect the people around you . just remember not everyone out there and afford to go to a lot of concerts so if they save up for one show and they are looking forward to it and then they have some drunk screaming talking people behind them that really sucks and if your that selfish that you don't care and its all about yourself then stay home no one needs you around or at shows . ok I can go for hours about this so I am stopping here .

P.S. STFU AT SHOWS AND IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE YOUr ALCOHOL STAY HOME OR DON'T DRINK .

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I'm not sure if I should jump in on this or not but why not...

I don't drink and neither does my friend who I brought with me to the Hampton Beach show. The doors were open at 6 and show started at 8 so there was plenty of time to get drunk.  Plenty of people around us were drinking and had at least two or three beers before Joe even hit the stage.  It was a rowdy, high energy crowd. It made me think of the time I saw Twister Sister when I was high school.

Sure there were some little annoyances but I took it in stride as it's part of the concert experience and I wasn't going to let it get to me. In my mind, those annoyances sort of added to the show - some of it a little humorous. 

For instance someone yelled during a quiet moment between songs, "Happy Birthday, Joe" and someone yelled back "That was last week".

The section I was in just started laughing.  Even the band was laughing.

The little annoyances became things my friend and I giggled over after the show. I suppose if someone had dumped a cup of beer on me then that would have changed my tune but I had a blast at the show.

Having never seen Joe in concert before and not knowing what to expect was the most exciting part.

Don't know if I actually added anything to this conversation but hey, if you're going to see Joe just relax and take it all in and enjoy yourself.

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23 (edited by DougH 2014-05-20 13:21:36)

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I don't mind the yelling during the loud parts.. you can't hear them smile

Even Joe tries to get everyone quiet during the part where he really wants to get quiet.
you notice now, Joe puts up his finger to his mouth for the SHHHH sign, but some just don't get it.
Yell when its loud, not when Joe is saying just back down for a second.

Even on the ANDY DVD from 2001 there is a standing room only, young crowd on that DVD and Joe says..
"There is a poo load of people in the room tonight and we're going to see how quiet we can get" and seems to manage the quiet spot

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One thing that I was very impressed with when I first watched the 2009 RAH concert....was how respectful the crowd was.

My wife also noticed this, it was very evident.

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People getting excited about the show and that are spontaneous are absolutely fine and actually add to the experience of a live performance.  The dicks that come to the show and want to be the center of attention are obnoxious at best.  The last time I saw Joe in Clearwater, we had a 20 something guy sitting next to us he was obviously on something, because the light show was freaking him out.  Then every couple of minutes he would try to start some inane conversation with my wife.  Finally, I switched seats with her and told him to shut up.  His girlfriend got the message and got him out of there.  We only get to see Joe once or maybe twice a year, I want to concentrate on the band and enjoy the show.

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Bluemac wrote:
ohiodawg13 wrote:

This topic just doesn't go away. Seems like every time a bunch of newbies are cycled in it pops up again. Alcohol no doubt is the catalyst to what brings out the obnoxiousness, but then again each person paid approx. what you paid and they feel they can act however they please. I've been to more live shows than I can possibly recall, but I admit Joe's shows are some of the tamest I've been to, catch a Skynyrd show live to gain some perspective. When I first started following Joe 8 years ago many of the gigs were in clubs which always cultivates a looser atmosphere. Now that his shows are in sit down theaters more people than not expect some proper behavior code to apply. Problem is there's always gonna be those in attendance that never got past that club mentality. Apparently everybodies had a bad experience and my best advice is, if you can't take the heat, get outta the kitchen! Stay home and watch the DVD with a bowl of popcorn and a hot cocoa, I'm just sayin'. Rocket gets it, it's a "LIVE" concert with live people, some are just livelier than others. I hate to point this out, but the demographic at a Joe show is borderline genAARP and "lilly white", which has always baffled me, but that's a whole 'nother can o'worms.

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I agree with you about the 'live' aspect here and there's obviously nothing wrong with everybody having a good time, but surely there's a difference between everybody being 'lively' and a few being drunk/rude/obnoxious!? If you look at the DVD of the AC/DC River Plate concert, the VAST MAJORITY of the crowd is as lively as anything you are ever likely to see, but that's not the same as a MINORITY spoiling it for the majority by shouting out drunkenly when Joe is playing quiet parts of solos or constantly getting up to go buy beer, or unthinkingly obstructing people's view, etc., etc... If things are so 'bad' that Joe has to tell a minority of people to shut up, then surely you're not suggesting that the majority should stay away if they don't like this kind of behaviour and leave the field clear for the minority??

What I mean is you should expect just about anything at a live rock show. If you think complaining about it is going to fix it you're only kidding yourself. If it's too much to deal with just save your money and avoid the frustration.

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Bill S wrote:
gary wrote:

Hi Gamblis welcome to the forum.I have experienced the same at Joes shows.Some more than others.I think it's a combination of alcohol and revisiting of youth that triggers these things.He always handles it well and get thing under control.I have noticed there is one person must be in my area  that is very loud and always shouting out something during a quiet time.
It is annoying and if that person thinks he needs to tell the world and Joe he loves his music I wish he would understand how foolish
it makes him look.
But in the end it's not so bad is to detract from the show.

It normally doesn't bother me, but the guy you are referring to is a horse's a**! There was one show where he was standing at the stage talking to Joe through an ENTIRE song and what seemed like half the show: "yeah Joe, that's the way to do it, you go, you're the best, right there, yeah right there" and on and on.
I'm thinking of bringing a squirt gun to the next Chicago area show.

Hey Bill was that the same guy who had his son right up there propping up close to the stage ?Blocking people behind him?

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I remember a time when my biggest concern was not stepping in puke at a concert!

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gary wrote:

I remember a time when my biggest concern was not stepping in puke at a concert!

Sorry about that, lol!

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30 (edited by BarbieD 2014-05-20 21:31:22)

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gary wrote:

I remember a time when my biggest concern was not stepping in puke at a concert!

Right on, Gary! Ahhh, brings back memories of the mid-late 80s, Alpine Valley Music Theater, puke EVERYWHERE!

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Always a show when everyone sits, and the folks in front of me continue to stand. So now I try and get front row wink
My girlfriend is short, so it's always a challenge for her to see, so that's another contributor.

It's always an roll when Joe plays very quiet and intricately and some drunk see that as an opportunity to yell something obnoxious. I like the shushing Joe does at shows because it shows he is in control. Applauses are almost on que at JB shows as audibly appropriate.

One particular show in Milwaukee, JB was fingerpicking acoustically and a guy yelled "FASTER!" He didn't know what was coming. The end of the acoustic run has some face melters in it. When concluded he mouthed "was that fast enough for ya?" It was a nice comeback, but I'm not sure if it was acknowledgement and promoting that kind of behavior. The crowd, of course, loved it. one of the unexpected yet memorable moments of just 1 particular JB show. smile

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32 (edited by Bluemac 2014-05-21 02:02:16)

Re: Concert Behavior

ohiodawg13 wrote:
Bluemac wrote:
ohiodawg13 wrote:

This topic just doesn't go away. Seems like every time a bunch of newbies are cycled in it pops up again. Alcohol no doubt is the catalyst to what brings out the obnoxiousness, but then again each person paid approx. what you paid and they feel they can act however they please. I've been to more live shows than I can possibly recall, but I admit Joe's shows are some of the tamest I've been to, catch a Skynyrd show live to gain some perspective. When I first started following Joe 8 years ago many of the gigs were in clubs which always cultivates a looser atmosphere. Now that his shows are in sit down theaters more people than not expect some proper behavior code to apply. Problem is there's always gonna be those in attendance that never got past that club mentality. Apparently everybodies had a bad experience and my best advice is, if you can't take the heat, get outta the kitchen! Stay home and watch the DVD with a bowl of popcorn and a hot cocoa, I'm just sayin'. Rocket gets it, it's a "LIVE" concert with live people, some are just livelier than others. I hate to point this out, but the demographic at a Joe show is borderline genAARP and "lilly white", which has always baffled me, but that's a whole 'nother can o'worms.

                                                                                  Let's Party!!!!

                                                                                  J Dawg

I agree with you about the 'live' aspect here and there's obviously nothing wrong with everybody having a good time, but surely there's a difference between everybody being 'lively' and a few being drunk/rude/obnoxious!? If you look at the DVD of the AC/DC River Plate concert, the VAST MAJORITY of the crowd is as lively as anything you are ever likely to see, but that's not the same as a MINORITY spoiling it for the majority by shouting out drunkenly when Joe is playing quiet parts of solos or constantly getting up to go buy beer, or unthinkingly obstructing people's view, etc., etc... If things are so 'bad' that Joe has to tell a minority of people to shut up, then surely you're not suggesting that the majority should stay away if they don't like this kind of behaviour and leave the field clear for the minority??

What I mean is you should expect just about anything at a live rock show. If you think complaining about it is going to fix it you're only kidding yourself. If it's too much to deal with just save your money and avoid the frustration.

Yeah, you're probably right. It's a shame for those who feel their experience has been somehow ruined but I guess morons will be morons...

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My first Joe show was at Hartford last weekend. I heard a few yells, and even though I'm a quiet guy, I was charged up enough to almost yell something myself. And I don't drink. The music made me feel like a kid again.

But the yells weren't nearly as annoying as the constant trips to the bathroom by the guys in front of me. I guess it goes along with the age demographic. I mean I'm 54 and didn't leave my seat once. After the 4th trip by one guy I thought to myself...I hope my bladder never get's that bad.

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I was doing a pretty good job ignoring the knucklehead behind me in Nashville last month despite his insults to my hair and heckling my t-shirt. When Joe came out for the first song, I wanted to video it since he does that one by himself. Shortly after Joe started playing, said knucklehead started shoving my shoulder thereby causing arm and camera to jerk about. He did this a few times and eventually I turned the camera off and proceeded to tell him 3 or 4 times to STOP TOUCHING ME! He finally got it. Needless to say, first song gone for me (thank goodness for Natasha’s vids). I could hear him misbehaving throughout the show but was able to tune him out. Later they carted him off. It was another “whatevs” moment in the adventures of being a Joe fan!

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here lies the problem is that everyone says its a concert so it's part of the show well its not part of the show get it threw your head you are paying money to see the band play not to hear or watch people making fools of themselves . so what you are trying to tell me is when I go to classical shows or the opera those people there are better then Joes fans since they know how to keep quit when the music is playing or someone is singing or are you telling me that Joe fans are low class people that can't control themselves at a show and the people at the classical shows and opera shows are upper class people and handle themselves better . it all comes down to keeping quit during the music and listening with your ears not your mouth . cheer and clap your brains out after the song is over if you want to punch yourself in the face do that after the song is over . I just don't get why you would want to pay 100 dollars for a ticket and then have people screw up you night at the show with yelling and talking .

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joebeacon wrote:

here lies the problem is that everyone says its a concert so it's part of the show well its not part of the show get it threw your head you are paying money to see the band play not to hear or watch people making fools of themselves . so what you are trying to tell me is when I go to classical shows or the opera those people there are better then Joes fans since they know how to keep quit when the music is playing or someone is singing or are you telling me that Joe fans are low class people that can't control themselves at a show and the people at the classical shows and opera shows are upper class people and handle themselves better . it all comes down to keeping quit during the music and listening with your ears not your mouth . cheer and clap your brains out after the song is over if you want to punch yourself in the face do that after the song is over . I just don't get why you would want to pay 100 dollars for a ticket and then have people screw up you night at the show with yelling and talking .

Plus a bunch, and if I'd been BarbieD's escort, that meathead would be visiting a dentist the next day.

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