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Re: Disappearing (rock) music

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Sad day for the music industry, sad day for High Street's.

Absolutely !

Just seen the news - doesn't come as a surprise though - it's been coming for some time - REALLY SAD!

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Its very hard to find music at the retail level outside of the mainstream.Joe and BCC are still in the Best Buys stores(chain is having trouble).I was in Barnes and Noble which used to carry a small but decent blues section,and could only find about 10 bluesdiscs,if that.It just goes to show that its not a business model to sell much at rretail now.It is sad for those of us who grew up on persusing record stores.

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No surprise there. Would leave just one independent store where I live and they are struggling too. Downloads and online are the death of music stores as we all know.

My favourite record shop in Amsterdam is Fame. They have downsized and moved premises but at least they are still active.

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I live in Mesquite, which is right outside of Dallas. There's a small record store called Groove Records, and there's alot of good rock albums in there, along with other stuff as well. It's not huge store, it's in a small shopping center. I've bought a few things from there. I went in a few months ago just to look around, and the guy working there said that Ted Nugent & Derek St. Holmes visited the store just a couple weeks earlier!! Wish I could've been there when that happened.

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Joe Walsh says it best in "Analog Man"  (prereleased streaming on Rolling Stone's site and iTunes lol)

Welcome to cyberspace, I'm lost in the fog
Everything's digital I'm still analog
When something goes wrong
I don't have a clue
Some 10-year-old smart **** has to show me what to do
Sign on with high speed you don't have to wait
Sit there for days and vegetate
I access my email, read all my spam, I'm an analog man.


The whole world's living in a digital dream
It's not really there
It's all on the screen
Makes me forget who I am
I'm an analog man


Yeah I'm an analog man in a digital world
I'm gonna get me an analog girl
Who loves me for what I am
I'm an analog man


What's wrong with vinyl, I think it sounds great
LPs, 45s, 78s but that's just the way I am
I'm an analog man


Turn on the tube, watch until dawn
One hundred channels, nothing is on
Endless commercials, endless commercials, endless commercials


The whole world's glued to the cable TV
It looks so real on the big LCD
Murder and violence are rated PG, too bad for the children
They are what they see


The whole world's living in a digital dream
It's not really there
It's all on the screen
Makes me forget who I am
I'm an analog man


Yeah I'm an analog man in a digital world
I'm gonna get me an analog girl
Who loves me for what I am
I'm an analog man


Yeah I'm an analog man in a digital world

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Any "record" store struggling to stay in business should look into Newbury Comic's model.  They are a New England chain that has managed to survive quite nicely over the years by changing/adding to what they offer for sale.  Their most recent change involved moving stores into malls (so many empty slots the rent has improved I'm sure) and adding  clothing that appeals to the off-beat person that you won't find easily elsewhere.  So far it has worked, and they can still sell CD's, vinyl, records and other stuff.  I love the place.

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Analog

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Any "record" store struggling to stay in business should look into Newbury Comic's model.  They are a New England chain that has managed to survive quite nicely over the years by changing/adding to what they offer for sale.  Their most recent change involved moving stores into malls (so many empty slots the rent has improved I'm sure) and adding  clothing that appeals to the off-beat person that you won't find easily elsewhere.  So far it has worked, and they can still sell CD's, vinyl, records and other stuff.  I love the place.

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The one independent record shop I mentioned earlier is closing its doors on 31 January................sad sad times. Have been a regular customer for over 30 years.

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Re: Disappearing (rock) music

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The one independent record shop I mentioned earlier is closing its doors on 31 January................sad sad times. Have been a regular customer for over 30 years.

Sad times indeed, can't imagine having no record shops at all to have a wander around.  With HMV closing, i'd have thought that might have given One-Up a bit of a lifeline being the only one remaining.  Someone might well come in and buy it i suppose for that reason.  Here's hoping anyway.

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The one independent record shop I mentioned earlier is closing its doors on 31 January................sad sad times. Have been a regular customer for over 30 years.

Sad times indeed, can't imagine having no record shops at all to have a wander around.  With HMV closing, i'd have thought that might have given One-Up a bit of a lifeline being the only one remaining.  Someone might well come in and buy it i suppose for that reason.  Here's hoping anyway.

Hey Gordon, believe it or not but Fred offered me One Up's business last year. It didn't go further than that because there was no way I was going to take it on. These days you need to diversify and offer much more than just cd's.

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Re: Disappearing (rock) music

couple of interesting stories on this on the BBC site:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21023610

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21028803

- the world has changed.

Happy memories of the HMV Oxford Street when it had entire floors dedicated to musical genres and you could discover new artists and ask to listen to a specific record and were given a set of headphones.

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To be honest, I am more saddened by the closure of One Up Records than HMV. You have got to fight your way to the reduced number of CDs through all the ever expanding volume of DVDs. And their blues collection is pretty sparse.

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Re: Disappearing (rock) music

Kenny wrote:

Hey Gordon, believe it or not but Fred offered me One Up's business last year. It didn't go further than that because there was no way I was going to take it on. These days you need to diversify and offer much more than just cd's.

True, would be a great little project though.  Imagine these days though it would have to be for the love of music to run a record shop.  Maybe when that lottery win comes along....

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Sad news about HMV. Honestly I don't think it will affect many current blues artists that much as HMV was not particularly well stocked with the genre (other than some of the classics) and many of them sell the bulk of their CDs at live shows (or through download).
The stores closure may actually have a little more effect on the sale of Joe's CDs as he does tend to have a few in each branch. So hopefully that will encourage Joe to do a full UK tour once there's a new CD released.
Shame about One Up in Aberdeen, likewise Music Mania in Berwick Upon Tweed is closing shortly. The news, and any potential benefits, came too late for them.

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I agree as HMV stood for the last few years its non mainstream coverage of music was awful, - and that was its problem, or one of its many. It went head to head with supermarkets who only stocked the most popular, it forgot about the music fan.

This isn interesting blog written one year ago by a musician.

http://croydonmunicipal.blogspot.co.uk/ … tself.html

Even given HMV's shortcomings I still think it is a very sad day because it pushes real music even further under the radar and makes it more difficult for youngsters and those new to diverse (different)  music to come across it. Blues and blues based rock will go the same way as HMV without new blood.

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disappearing real music and an interesting article with some (perhaps) truths around digital music, heavily marketed corporation music and the damage being done:

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permali … 09/25/lies

It might make for interesting reading for those of you like me who have concerns for the legacy we leave future generations?

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I mostly buy on Amazon these days because FYE which is just around the corner never carries anything I want.  They always say "we can order it for you" but their prices are too high in my mind.  A CD for $19 you've got to be kidding especially when they sell it on their own website for $15 or lower. 

There used to be a used CD/Vinyl shop in town that had DVDs and posters too.  They had a large selection of stuff and I used to spend hours going through the racks.  I liked it because it allowed me to explore different artists without spending a large amount of money.

There is one used store that's really small - it's in a basement which mostly serves the college crowd.  The store creeps me out so I only go there if I have too.   There is a record store across from my office - they sell vinyl and very minimal CDs.  They're prices for vinyl are a little nuts I think.

I walked in there the other day to look for something specific for a friend and found Frampton Comes Alive for $1.  I was horrified, sad and partly insulted.  That album alone had such an impact on people and here it was for a $1 and no it wasn't in the bargin bin.  Peter Frampton is well worth more than a $1.   

I stick to Amazon mostly to shop these days but do wish the old used shop I went to still existed. That's how I managed to pick up some hard to get Rory Gallagher stuff that Amazon didn't have or had priced sky high.

Admittedly I miss vinyl records but I hope CDs don't go away.  I like looking at the cover art and reading the booklets.  I like having the whole piece of work to listen to.

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