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I think it's fair to say Rocket, that JamesDenny50's comment is probably borne out of the same frustration that many of us felt when the £1500 VIP ticket went on sale - Potentially locking out all the best seats. It would appear that the "offer" of all the "bolt ons" was not sufficient for it to be taken up in sufficient numbers to fill the Borderline, which is why the tickets for that venue are now being offered at £500 and blocks of seats are being sold at the other venues. It is indeed unfortunate that many big Joe fans were "turned off" by the original expensive offer and still see £500 as being well over the top. As far as Roy's comments in Classic Rock, he is entitled to say what he likes I suppose and it's my guess he has taken some stick for it. Roy "manages" the operation as far as I know, allowing Joe to concentrate on the actual shows and the music. I am not alone here in believing that Joe deserves every plaudit and dollar that he earns, jeez, he has toiled a long and hard road to get to where he is now. My own feeling is that J&R missed a great opportunity to say a big "thank you" to the fans, by zeroing in on the Borderline gig as a true fan show, with the limited number of tickets drawn out of some form of lottery organised on this forum. If fans were travelling in from afar, the chance of a ticket would be enough motivation to get them to buy tickets to the other shows. The Borderline gig will still be some show - just imagine it with a crowd made up from all this lot on here! Just my three penneth - I'm unlucky with Lotteries, so I'll just make do with seeing you all at the RAH - Thanks to Wooders!

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I am kind of confused why this quote was brought to the top after it has lain dormant for a year. Hmm, to get people worked up about something, perhaps? Who knows. It seems to me that Roy is acting like I would expect him to act, albeit his word choice is somewhat crude (maybe that's why Joe is the one who usually does the interviews) They are partners in the music industry business. I would think their goal is to make millions someday. You wouldn't want your manager to be like "I'm going to make you dirt poor, kid. You're going to live in a slum and only play seedy bars." I don't know either one of them, but from what I've read, they seem to complement each other (yin and yang). Joe is the talent and the face, and Roy is the business and money. They have been together a long time and if Joe wasn't comfortable with the relationship, I would think he would do something about it. It is Joe's life, and it seems to be going pretty good so far.

75 (edited by Rocket 2013-01-22 14:01:45)

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Geoff wrote:

I think it's fair to say Rocket, that JamesDenny50's comment is probably borne out of the same frustration that many of us felt when the £1500 VIP ticket went on sale - Potentially locking out all the best seats. It would appear that the "offer" of all the "bolt ons" was not sufficient for it to be taken up in sufficient numbers to fill the Borderline, which is why the tickets for that venue are now being offered at £500 and blocks of seats are being sold at the other venues. It is indeed unfortunate that many big Joe fans were "turned off" by the original expensive offer and still see £500 as being well over the top. As far as Roy's comments in Classic Rock, he is entitled to say what he likes I suppose and it's my guess he has taken some stick for it. Roy "manages" the operation as far as I know, allowing Joe to concentrate on the actual shows and the music. I am not alone here in believing that Joe deserves every plaudit and dollar that he earns, jeez, he has toiled a long and hard road to get to where he is now. My own feeling is that J&R missed a great opportunity to say a big "thank you" to the fans, by zeroing in on the Borderline gig as a true fan show, with the limited number of tickets drawn out of some form of lottery organised on this forum. If fans were travelling in from afar, the chance of a ticket would be enough motivation to get them to buy tickets to the other shows. The Borderline gig will still be some show - just imagine it with a crowd made up from all this lot on here! Just my three penneth - I'm unlucky with Lotteries, so I'll just make do with seeing you all at the RAH - Thanks to Wooders!

My heart sympathizes, Geoff.  It was a horrible anguish to me at first, not so much for myself as for the long time loyalists in your lands (whom are all good friends), such as yourself, but my head has perhaps, seemingly, resolved the warp and woof of the plan...I think it goes over a lot of heads, so, I am not going to give a long winded opinion on why it is in my opinion, a smart move.  I will say don't be so convinced ideas originate only with "R", not with "J"!  Friends tend to have honest relationships that are open to anything.  Why not have 200 late comers who can afford exclusive extravagance?!  They probably would be adversarial if not given a Golden opportunity. Let 'em have at it.  I expect great write ups, schmoozers galore, and perhaps a bit of a hand in ponying up some currency to make further adventures come to fruition...i suppose I could be wrong.

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jamesdenny50 wrote:
Geoff wrote:

I think it's fair to say Rocket, that JamesDenny50's comment is probably borne out of the same frustration that many of us felt when the £1500 VIP ticket went on sale - Potentially locking out all the best seats. It would appear that the "offer" of all the "bolt ons" was not sufficient for it to be taken up in sufficient numbers to fill the Borderline, which is why the tickets for that venue are now being offered at £500 and blocks of seats are being sold at the other venues. It is indeed unfortunate that many big Joe fans were "turned off" by the original expensive offer and still see £500 as being well over the top. As far as Roy's comments in Classic Rock, he is entitled to say what he likes I suppose and it's my guess he has taken some stick for it. Roy "manages" the operation as far as I know, allowing Joe to concentrate on the actual shows and the music. I am not alone here in believing that Joe deserves every plaudit and dollar that he earns, jeez, he has toiled a long and hard road to get to where he is now. My own feeling is that J&R missed a great opportunity to say a big "thank you" to the fans, by zeroing in on the Borderline gig as a true fan show, with the limited number of tickets drawn out of some form of lottery organised on this forum. If fans were travelling in from afar, the chance of a ticket would be enough motivation to get them to buy tickets to the other shows. The Borderline gig will still be some show - just imagine it with a crowd made up from all this lot on here! Just my three penneth - I'm unlucky with Lotteries, so I'll just make do with seeing you all at the RAH - Thanks to Wooders!

Geoff We share the same feeling about the prices and I agree that it should of been just for the true fans. Little sad joe didn't step in and say "we have to lower the ticket price for borderline" this is classic roy, look at the BCC single show prices that was then canceled. It's like he is bullying the fans and fans should open their eyes.

Jamesdenny50, since Joe is busy at the moment. In studio with Beth Hart and rehearsing RCFP show and probably hasn't seen your recent comments. I'm going to do you a favor a get rid of your attacks on his manager. I don't know you so I withhold judgement on your motives for bashing him here. I do however know Roy and I have had my own disagreements with his handling of things from time to time. I don't use this forum to air them however. I have the utmost respect for how he has helped Joe obtain the goals he has set for himself. Roy couldn't do it with out Joe and Joe couldn't do it without Roy. When you attack Roy you also attack Joe because they are on the same page and are J&R. You have something to say to Roy email me and I'll send it along if he thinks your grievances are worthy of reply I'm sure he will. Now I don't often ban members but I will make an exception if you insist on continuing to disparage Roy on this forum.

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I'm not going to waste my time on this guy above ... Jim, sort him out please.

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I'm not going to waste my time on this guy above ... Jim, sort him out please.

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79 (edited by Jane H. 2013-01-23 13:11:12)

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not to support the bashing type comments but i do think its worth noting that my experience has also been that the article did cast a bad light. I don't know Roy well myself but know how close he and Joe are and i do know and believe he is a true fan, as he testified to me in person once. But I truly have had a number of fans say to me it really was a changing point in their fan worship and $upport so to speak after they read it


i am not going that far but have commented before about it and do feel its true that much of being a Joe fan had to do with his sincerity and caring about the fans, and the music too. I know Joe enough to know this and that he is not a fake etc and it is why it just boggled my mind to see alot of the comments in that article (but i do realize the editing could change quite a bit of intent and meaning etc.)


So the reason i say any of this is to say these couple of posters are not completely alone, i have witnessed people i actually know say the same thing and not much else since. If the equation is that the shows keep getting bigger and the people keep coming i think its valid to show that some of those are also going away and if all the things that kept the earlier ones on the ride bringing friends the whole time aren't still there its still hard to keep building.  but who knows.


no i don't think its heading that way but I just mention things sometime to try to be helpful with feedback so maybe if it does matter to Joe and/or Roy, that its more obvious. While over the top i think that is part of why these guys post but i dunno. plus the article is on top of alot of email marketing etc. and a less relaxed feel at the shows . Again, not the worst thing in the world and i am not complaining! but if fans are saying WTF? then its a sign. what is done with it another thing but it does seem to come more from trying to defend Joe's image (even though he didn't ask) than to bash Roy?


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80 (edited by Jane H. 2013-01-23 14:49:12)

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well FWIW, i KNOW there is a ton to the whole BCC thing i will never know BUT just from what he posts on the twitter and such Glenn is no angel in the matter. and its not a welcome topic here in my understanding. to have enough info for it to make sense it would have to get pretty ugly i think and Joe does not want to let it get that way again.

a shame for sure but i don't think the whole blame could possibly go on Roy with that one

not to keep ragging on the article but some of the other comments in it and just observing alot of the BCC hype and controversy i got to say i am glad that Joe hasn't let the whole, let me bite my tongue by just saying "Hollywood" 'tude' infect him in any significant way. that would be worsererer thanjust about anything. just my opinion

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Sorry for the delay but the two haters have been dismissed. This topic is done.