Topic: Music and Alcohol!

ok, here's what this is about, alot of artists and musicians out there have drinking problems
but even is they're totally wasted and drunk, they still play splendidly.
now, none of my family nor me have drinking prosblems (knock on wood! hehe), all we do is enjoy a glass or two
especially on occassions or holidays, and like i mentioned before on some topic, i can't have more than a glass of wine without losing my head!
so here's what happened: a while ago it was my Brother's Birthday, and we opened a bottle of red wine to make a cost for him, i had a glass and i always start singing or strumming the acoustic guitar when i do (i'm only a beginner on the guitar), anyway, my point is that i played better than without the glass i had...
Can anyone analyze why playing is easier after a drink???

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Maybe because a glass or two makes you feel more relaxed and confident. It'll also eliminate most of your fears and inhibitions, both of which will have a negative impact on ANY performance.

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Reem wrote:

ok, here's what this is about, alot of artists and musicians out there have drinking problems
but even is they're totally wasted and drunk, they still play splendidly.
now, none of my family nor me have drinking prosblems (knock on wood! hehe), all we do is enjoy a glass or two
especially on occassions or holidays, and like i mentioned before on some topic, i can't have more than a glass of wine without losing my head!
so here's what happened: a while ago it was my Brother's Birthday, and we opened a bottle of red wine to make a cost for him, i had a glass and i always start singing or strumming the acoustic guitar when i do (i'm only a beginner on the guitar), anyway, my point is that i played better than without the glass i had...
Can anyone analyze why playing is easier after a drink???

Short version or long?

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Rocket wrote:
Reem wrote:

ok, here's what this is about, alot of artists and musicians out there have drinking problems
but even is they're totally wasted and drunk, they still play splendidly.
now, none of my family nor me have drinking prosblems (knock on wood! hehe), all we do is enjoy a glass or two
especially on occassions or holidays, and like i mentioned before on some topic, i can't have more than a glass of wine without losing my head!
so here's what happened: a while ago it was my Brother's Birthday, and we opened a bottle of red wine to make a cost for him, i had a glass and i always start singing or strumming the acoustic guitar when i do (i'm only a beginner on the guitar), anyway, my point is that i played better than without the glass i had...
Can anyone analyze why playing is easier after a drink???

Short version or long?

long...

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5 (edited by Rocket 2013-01-11 16:10:34)

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lol  You obviously don't know how long my stories can get!!! yikes

I was hoping for "short" let's try that first.  Long could take until the middle of next week!

SHORT VERSION
reply to "Can anyone analyze why playing is easier after a drink???"

Playing is easier after a drink...

Because your paws won't pause for flaws when you are on the sauce! tongue


Rock ON & Take IN A Double Shot of Faith,
Rocket

ps-I can still do a serious long version... by sometime next week. wink

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6 (edited by Stu Craig 2013-01-11 17:27:02)

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It's a temporary and fleeting effect at best. You might be better for a short while but you'll either, a) have to continue drinking in an attempt to maintain it, which doesn't work, or b) let it wear off at which point you're back to where you started.

I remember I shot pool better after the first beer or 2. Trouble was my pool game dropped off as my consumption continued...as did most everything else LOLOL.

You're better off developing your playing skills through sober practice. Just my opinion. Good luck and keep after it!

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I think I sing good when I'm drunk. I also think I'm pretty funny too.

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jim m wrote:

I think I sing good when I'm drunk. I also think I'm pretty funny too.

Is that what your cell mates tell you?!

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Don't be so sure that you play/sing better when you've been drinking until you've recorded yourself performing in said state. You may feel more relaxed & confident, but sometimes your body has to play catch-up to your brain when you're inebriated

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10 (edited by Rocket 2013-01-12 01:22:41)

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frazerburns19 wrote:

Don't be so sure that you play/sing better when you've been drinking until you've recorded yourself performing in said state. You may feel more relaxed & confident, but sometimes your body has to play catch-up to your brain when you're inebriated

Good point and also moot point.  Anyone who has ever recorded themself competely straight and "thinks" they sounded great can be disappointed in how the recording turns out.  The opposite is also valid, i.e., recording completely coherent and straight, "I sounded terrible", yet the recording may turn out very (surprisingly so) well. 

But if a change of state and significant elapsed time passage has occurred and one still sounds good on a recording, sober or not, and others agreed both "live" and "later" were "really sounding / sounded  good", and are trustsworthy opinions, well, what difference does it make?
(What difference?, it may be a matter of life and death.)

There's scores of examples of good, bad, terrible, and even fantastic playing to uphold any take on the subject at hand.  Either an altered state or clear mindedness may be intrinsic to the valuation or worthlessness of a performance.  It was widely believed before marijuana was widely accepted that it was a sure fire way to improve one's musical performances.  The 1960's U.S. of A. Counterculture movement brought hallucinagens and so-called hard drugs into wide usage and acceptance for artists of all types of endeavors.  Cocaine breaks during a concert or recording session became vogue (I guess remains for some).  Some really terrible concerts and recordings have gone down over the ages.  The same could be said to actually have been enhanced from the same.  Live, somebody out of their skull drunk or high usually results in poor results, if not that event, over time.  Bands break up to this day because of the problems "leaning" on something.  Some performers it is stage fright that brings on a lousy deal. Stage fright for some brings out AMAZING performances even while they are terrified at the same time.

Alcohol, for many who do not suffer from the disease (not "problem") of alcoholism (and even those who can manage the disease), can take the edge off the internal distractions and allow for a looser, even more wonderfully lucid transition to a good performance. 

A thin line at times.  But sober practice, as Stu suggests, in my opinion also, is the best idea around to have a hope in the cope with the dope conundrum(s).

If "it" makes you think you are better, it just may be so. But not necessarily so, and not always the case in either the former or the latter. 

Rock ON & Keep the Faith,
Rocket

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Drummers drinking before a gig ? not a good idea. I thought i could do both back in the day,  turns out, i was wrong.
The likes of Tommy Lee might get away with it - but we're the guys who set the time - need i say more!

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jim m wrote:

I think I sing good when I'm drunk. I also think I'm pretty funny too.

Don't we all?

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Rocket wrote:

Because your paws won't pause for flaws when you are on the sauce! tongue

Hahahaha! Ok, Man! but i'll still be waiting for the long version because you got me curious...

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Hey! come on! i didn't say that i'll start a drinking problem! actually, i'm sooooo far from that! it was just a topic and i do agree that practice when sober is better... i just wanted to point out that some play better when they're drunk!

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Reem wrote:

Hey! come on! i didn't say that i'll start a drinking problem! actually, i'm sooooo far from that! it was just a topic and i do agree that practice when sober is better... i just wanted to point out that some play better when they're drunk!

... and many think they play better.

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Rocket wrote:
frazerburns19 wrote:

Don't be so sure that you play/sing better when you've been drinking until you've recorded yourself performing in said state. You may feel more relaxed & confident, but sometimes your body has to play catch-up to your brain when you're inebriated

Good point and also moot point.  Anyone who has ever recorded themself competely straight and "thinks" they sounded great can be disappointed in how the recording turns out.  The opposite is also valid, i.e., recording completely coherent and straight, "I sounded terrible", yet the recording may turn out very (surprisingly so) well. 

But if a change of state and significant elapsed time passage has occurred and one still sounds good on a recording, sober or not, and others agreed both "live" and "later" were "really sounding / sounded  good", and are trustsworthy opinions, well, what difference does it make?
(What difference?, it may be a matter of life and death.)

There's scores of examples of good, bad, terrible, and even fantastic playing to uphold any take on the subject at hand.  Either an altered state or clear mindedness may be intrinsic to the valuation or worthlessness of a performance.  It was widely believed before marijuana was widely accepted that it was a sure fire way to improve one's musical performances.  The 1960's U.S. of A. Counterculture movement brought hallucinagens and so-called hard drugs into wide usage and acceptance for artists of all types of endeavors.  Cocaine breaks during a concert or recording session became vogue (I guess remains for some).  Some really terrible concerts and recordings have gone down over the ages.  The same could be said to actually have been enhanced from the same.  Live, somebody out of their skull drunk or high usually results in poor results, if not that event, over time.  Bands break up to this day because of the problems "leaning" on something.  Some performers it is stage fright that brings on a lousy deal. Stage fright for some brings out AMAZING performances even while they are terrified at the same time.

Alcohol, for many who do not suffer from the disease (not "problem") of alcoholism (and even those who can manage the disease), can take the edge off the internal distractions and allow for a looser, even more wonderfully lucid transition to a good performance. 

A thin line at times.  But sober practice, as Stu suggests, in my opinion also, is the best idea around to have a hope in the cope with the dope conundrum(s).

If "it" makes you think you are better, it just may be so. But not necessarily so, and not always the case in either the former or the latter. 

Rock ON & Keep the Faith,
Rocket

Is this the long  version?Or just the inro to the long version?Lol.
I do think one or two drinks may be ok.much more and the motor skills probably decline too much.I've seen band with a drink on stage and playing fine with out going overboard.

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Or another thing is that sometimes people start getting words and sayings out of their mouths when their drunk, which later turns to be good lyrics to songs... !

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Just for conversational sake, examine Pink Floyd.  Syd Barrett obviously the exception, but Pink Floyd laid down some incredible material both in the studio and stage, and alcohol was the impetus, despite a widely held myth that they had to be high on some other drugs at the time.


Rock ON & Keep the Lively Libation Laced Faith,
Rocket

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