Topic: Joe: what scales were you using mostly on your Bloodline album leads?
Big fan and first time poster. Love the style you were going for on the Bloodline album. Besides the standard pentatonic scales, what were you using?
Thanks!
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Re: Joe: what scales were you using mostly on your Bloodline album leads?
i hear a ton of displaced pentatonics, dorian, mixolydian, harmonic minor
Re: Joe: what scales were you using mostly on your Bloodline album leads?
Yeah, a lot of dorian and mixo. The Rock style that Joe is going for is really heavy on tension and resolve, which is common in jazz and blues as well. He'll use those outside licks or scales and resolve them with something more inside. Cool aproach.
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Conner
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Re: Joe: what scales were you using mostly on your Bloodline album leads?
Yeah most of the scales he played there were pentatonic... most of the time when he does those cool outside sounding riffs, he's playing mixo or dorian... I love the tension and resolve, as Conner was talking about- thats what makes his playing on that album...
Scott
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Re: Joe: what scales were you using mostly on your Bloodline album leads?
Can someone please explain this in layman's terms and is Joe still playing this way?
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Re: Joe: what scales were you using mostly on your Bloodline album leads?
Dorian and Mixolydian(Mixo) Are modes of the major scale. A mode is a major scale starting on a note other than the first note. The result is a variety of different scales. Since the pentatonic scale is only 5 notes, it leaves room for more notes, depending upon which notes you fill it in with it can become Dorian or Mixolydian, or at least those are the two common forms that the pentatonic can switch into. Most blues guitarists use it without even knowing, they just know that the note sounds good, so they use it. Sticking to just 5 notes is very limiting. If you study jazz theory at all, the one thing you learn about soloing over dominant chords, is that you can do pretty much anything, becuase the dominant chord wants to resolve and therfore is unstable. most blues is just all dominant chords, so i always look at it in this way.."THERES ONLY 12 NOTES YOU CAN WORK WITH HERE! ANYTHING IS FAIR GAME!" the trick is knwoing when to use certain notes and how to phrase them. Good luck with the solos!
Peace,
Conner
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Re: Joe: what scales were you using mostly on your Bloodline album leads?
cj19m wrote:
Dorian and Mixolydian(Mixo) Are modes of the major scale. A mode is a major scale starting on a note other than the first note. The result is a variety of different scales. Since the pentatonic scale is only 5 notes, it leaves room for more notes, depending upon which notes you fill it in with it can become Dorian or Mixolydian, or at least those are the two common forms that the pentatonic can switch into. Most blues guitarists use it without even knowing, they just know that the note sounds good, so they use it. Sticking to just 5 notes is very limiting. If you study jazz theory at all, the one thing you learn about soloing over dominant chords, is that you can do pretty much anything, becuase the dominant chord wants to resolve and therfore is unstable. most blues is just all dominant chords, so i always look at it in this way.."THERES ONLY 12 NOTES YOU CAN WORK WITH HERE! ANYTHING IS FAIR GAME!" the trick is knwoing when to use certain notes and how to phrase them. Good luck with the solos!
Peace,
Conner
Thank you very much!
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Re: Joe: what scales were you using mostly on your Bloodline album leads?
Andy wrote:
cj19m wrote:Dorian and Mixolydian(Mixo) Are modes of the major scale. A mode is a major scale starting on a note other than the first note. The result is a variety of different scales. Since the pentatonic scale is only 5 notes, it leaves room for more notes, depending upon which notes you fill it in with it can become Dorian or Mixolydian, or at least those are the two common forms that the pentatonic can switch into. Most blues guitarists use it without even knowing, they just know that the note sounds good, so they use it. Sticking to just 5 notes is very limiting. If you study jazz theory at all, the one thing you learn about soloing over dominant chords, is that you can do pretty much anything, becuase the dominant chord wants to resolve and therfore is unstable. most blues is just all dominant chords, so i always look at it in this way.."THERES ONLY 12 NOTES YOU CAN WORK WITH HERE! ANYTHING IS FAIR GAME!" the trick is knwoing when to use certain notes and how to phrase them. Good luck with the solos!
Peace,
ConnerThank you very much!
That is a big thing people need to realize- there are never any completely wrong or "bad" notes, there are just notes that don't sound as good as others- so therefore you wouldn't want to end on one of those- but when you're playing a run, you can use any note you want to as long as you don't land on the "bad" ones for very long
Hope this helps a bit,
Scott
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9 2007-05-25 16:54:50 (edited by Andy 2007-05-25 16:56:01)
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Re: Joe: what scales were you using mostly on your Bloodline album leads?
kwsjb1238 wrote:
Andy wrote:cj19m wrote:Dorian and Mixolydian(Mixo) Are modes of the major scale. A mode is a major scale starting on a note other than the first note. The result is a variety of different scales. Since the pentatonic scale is only 5 notes, it leaves room for more notes, depending upon which notes you fill it in with it can become Dorian or Mixolydian, or at least those are the two common forms that the pentatonic can switch into. Most blues guitarists use it without even knowing, they just know that the note sounds good, so they use it. Sticking to just 5 notes is very limiting. If you study jazz theory at all, the one thing you learn about soloing over dominant chords, is that you can do pretty much anything, becuase the dominant chord wants to resolve and therfore is unstable. most blues is just all dominant chords, so i always look at it in this way.."THERES ONLY 12 NOTES YOU CAN WORK WITH HERE! ANYTHING IS FAIR GAME!" the trick is knwoing when to use certain notes and how to phrase them. Good luck with the solos!
Peace,
ConnerThank you very much!
That is a big thing people need to realize- there are never any completely wrong or "bad" notes, there are just notes that don't sound as good as others- so therefore you wouldn't want to end on one of those- but when you're playing a run, you can use any note you want to as long as you don't land on the "bad" ones for very long
Hope this helps a bit,
Scott
Thank you. Is that like when the guitar solo just doesn't seem to go with the song - where it just doesn't seem to flow?
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