Joe vs Andreas Varady (Page 1 of 2)

This should be in other artists. The main page is reserved for all things Joe. Young talents come along all the time. Few make it beyond the flash in the pan stage.
Rick

I'm impressed with this kid's playing... thanks for bringing him to our attention.  But I see no need to make comparisons to Joe at that age, especially when you're talking about two different genres.  Maybe this kid can do for jazz what Joe is doing for blues and blues rock.

--Vik

The kid has talent, but I really do fail to see how you can state that he exceeds Joe at a comparable age.

As Vikki said "two different genres" and apart from that I would just point out that Joe was classically trained; evidenced in part by his dazzling display on Woke Up Dreaming.

Why does it have to be that one is 'better' than another?? Why can't their respective talents be enjoyed for what they are without making it a competition of some kind??

Really great.

It does look like his songs are memorized notes though. not a lot of improv. I think if he started doing some off the cuff stuff - it would do him well.

Initial reaction? Not to disvalue the videos I saw, but "if you train a monkey hard enough, it can memorize things." I'd really love to see him applying things he's learned and turn them around into improvisation. Watching these songs is like reading a book as in it's all scripted. I'd like to see some fluidity.

The kid DOES have some major talent.

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I came across this forum after doing a google search on Andreas, so sorry for jumping in. I hate to dissappoint those who clearly get some self-gratification in dismissing him as another child prodigy who didn't have a childhood and has no soul, but this kid is the real deal and I'm suprised anyone can argue with this and keep a straight face. He has among his fans and supporters jazz legends Martin Taylor and Louis Stewart. He's played with both of them. I'm fortunate to get to hear him fairly regularly in Ireland. From watching him play, anyone can see he's happy. (A lot happier than a 'trained monkey'.) I can also confirm that he hasn't memorised his solos. Firstly, he's playing jazz. You can't get away with this. I mean, come on! How can you know that anyway when you've only seen one version of a tune?! He's a gypsy and improvises by ear. Every solo is different. Talent like this should be celebrated. Not dismissed without knowing the real facts. Have any of the posters who criticise him ever seen him play in person, or met him, or been on his website to see the level of musicians he's playing with? His gig list is like a who's who of jazz guitar alone! Martin Taylor, Louis Stewart, Andreas Oberg, Frank Vignola - those guys know talent and PLAY some serious music. I beleive this kid will be around for a while and those who feel like putting him down or dismissing him should get over their jealousy, go and practice, then get ready to eat your words! Again sorry for jumping in but Andreas is very popular here and we value our talent...

Yeah he's good.  A comparison to say he's better than Joe was, is not the way to introduce him.   

Ha. No relation. I'm Irish and Andreas is Slovakian. We're getting off point. I'm not comparing him to anyone because he's an individual human being. Plus it's a but much to say one person has more joy in their eyes than another. Some people express their joy more than others. I also don't get the response to my post which said I have to understand that lots of kids like this come along. Please name some, and I mean guitarists at this age who play jazz and improvise on this level, I'm not talking about rock and licks players. I also don't like the view that people should tolerate negativity to certain extent because many prodigies don't go on to have full careers. Nobody knows the future so enjoy this talent regarless of what he may do. That's irrelevant. Many adult musicians (or any profession) quit, not just children. Either way, guys like Birelli Lagrene, and more recently Julian Lage, have came along as kids and done very, very well.

ok The kid is VERY GOOD.  I'll say it again VERY GOOD.     He's playing a genre that I have yet to see any of the rockers on this board listen to, let alone play.     The trained monkey and memorization comments are ... I'm not sure what they are...hateful maybe?  Just like the post about that's just how this forum is...

My previous post was aimed at the farley person who started the thread.  We rise to that bait like a trout to a spun fly.

If I like somebody's style, I put it in the Other Artists thread and I say I like this! or Can you do this? or whatever.  If you come looking for a squabble, you might just get one.      

I like his style and his music.  It's all the better to me because when he goofs he stops the phrase and picks back up on the one.  Makes it real.  He can count.

To be fair nobody here is set out to squash hopes and dreams.  We just see a lot of talent accompanied with all this insane hyperbole and ridiculous comparisons.  it's tiresome and the backlash is equally tiresome.

Finally.  The kid is VERY GOOD.  I'M impressed.  I like that style.  He doesn't need any BS to introduce him.  I hope he does fabulously well. 

MuchLove
BigJeff