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I don't know which one you're referring to Rocket, but I know BDS shook up their schedule a number of times to open for The Mule & the Kid Rock/Skynyrd tours.
Have A Cool Yule,
J Dawg
He backed out of a committed gig. A highly anticipated one at that.
Rock ON & Keep the Faith,
Rocket
He WHO?? Hey, can we all get out of this finger pointing stage regardless of who or what it's concerning. NONE OF US know exactly why things are done a certain way except for the people who are involved in it AND actually make the decisions. Sometimes this place resembles more of a soap opera than a music forum.
Enough said!!
Roy
What say we drop it lads and follow the Steepwater Band instead?
i didn't realize about the backing out of a committed gig. is there a link to the story or anything. i said what i said because there were a lot of similar comments right after the band split. of course maybe said gig happened right then. in which case im just a total idiot. very likely
I believe this was for the Hot August Blues Festival last August. Saying that they were given a golden opportunity for a support slot which any band would take.
i didn't realize about the backing out of a committed gig. is there a link to the story or anything. i said what i said because there were a lot of similar comments right after the band split. of course maybe said gig happened right then. in which case im just a total idiot. very likely
I believe this was for the Hot August Blues Festival last August. Saying that they were given a golden opportunity for a support slot which any band would take.
suhl wrote:i didn't realize about the backing out of a committed gig. is there a link to the story or anything. i said what i said because there were a lot of similar comments right after the band split. of course maybe said gig happened right then. in which case im just a total idiot. very likely
The reason behind that was it would have been about the same time they signed on to open for Chickenfoot. I guess you'd have to call that a platinum oppurtunity. Geez, I was guest listed for the Berkeley show and couldn't get out of a work commitment out of town to go. I also caught wind from the Dunlop gang that went to the show in Lake Tahoe that Sammy & Davy jammed into the night @ Sammy's Cabo Wabo downstairs @ Harvey's where the outdoor concert was held. Just my opinion, but I think Davy made all the right moves.
Have A Cool Yule,
J Dawg
I wasn't there, so I don't know. Only time will tell if he made the right moves or not. I'll wait and see...
I'm kind of conflicted about the whole deal, really. I have had to let people go in order to stay true to my vision, so to speak. So part of me understands that.
The part I don't get is disappointing fans you've already commited to. I personaly would've waited to fulfill my obligations before making a move...just me I guess. Between tours. I've seen people get manipulated in my past and it has hurt their integrity somewhat; their reputation, if you will.
I hope not, for Davey's sake. He's super talented. As I said I don't know the whole story. I do know that one of the reasons JB has a super loyal fanbase is his personal integrity/maturity & professionalism. I think those old school values still mean a lot to a lot of folks.
I'm just concerned. I'd like to see a lot of young players make it professionally. (Di I just say that???) It's a nasty biz.
MuchLove
BJJ FDOL
I like the new album better. Thought the old band was boring. Haven't seen the new band. I'm with Paul. The Steepwater Band smokes BDS. Now if Jeff just had Davey's voice.
Rocket wrote:He backed out of a committed gig. A highly anticipated one at that.
Rock ON & Keep the Faith,
RocketHe WHO?? Hey, can we all get out of this finger pointing stage regardless of who or what it's concerning. NONE OF US know exactly why things are done a certain way except for the people who are involved in it AND actually make the decisions. Sometimes this place resembles more of a soap opera than a music forum.
Enough said!!
Roy
He WHO?? C'mon Roy, you're a smart fellow, you know who. The Davy Knowles name was on the line, it was him whether being directed or deciding direction alone or having his hand forced by circumstances. A 'golden opportunity" yes, Chickenfoot has names that casual fans get excited over from past associations and an amazing amalgamation of talent melded and a chance to blow THEM away as opposed as a few thousand blues fans gathered together by and on a hillside in Maryland, OUTSIDE in dog days of summer heat for goodness sakes, are they crazy? SO what if people from Europe were blown away to see Joe Bonamassa's Band, Derek Trucks Band, AND Davy Knowles' Band in one place on one day and maybe there'd be good vibes everywhere. Not pointing the finger, only stating people came from long distances after buying tickets fast & furious and building up anticipation here-look at all the posts associated with that event, posters, T-Shirts, websites all in conjunctions and chugging on to an all day festival in the sun into the evening, and one that looked to be grand and wonderful (by the graces, it ended up that way even though SOMEONE 
slammed the front door on the appearance which would've also featured one, David Knowles and a band). It pissed some people off. Festival management were left scrambling to fill a hole. What happened to take the high road on this situation? I see it went different.
I was disappointed, not pissed off. The apology didn't seem genuine. And I am not being melodramatic just for soap operatic saucy effects. Davy Knowles & Back Door Slam had built QUITE a following here (yes, that makes it worse), indeed no small thanks to you and your fast friendship garnered, constantly knocking it home. I do not follow trends, always too busy or / and distracted, so I had made a point to not, just for the sake of a state of "belonging" or "being a part of", just jump in headfirst and be swayed by popular pundit pageantry, never have, likely never will, excepting Joe Bonamassa, who wasn't all that popular not so long ago and (having become popular a certain "way") certainly has influenced my perception of other entertainers, and personnel involved professionally in entertainment's "business". Joe Bonamassa didn't make a personnel change until AFTER a tour as Jeff said (and no Jeff, it's not "just me, I guess") and it was a business decision, yes, but he would not have dropped out when some come from over 2200 miles, let alone over 6,000km to see him AND other acts and friends who espouse enjoyment of them all. Major emergency he would, only way.
Integrity. So that's not soap opera or finger pointing, it is my opinions based on the facts. AS they pertained to me.
Am I blackballing them? Not a chance. I just think someone could have met one last obligation, not reschedule IMMEDIATELY and oh yeah, we're out of this one but will be HERE opening for these coat tails...
A bad move. Not unforgivable. All IMHO 
Rock On Only,
Rocket
"Am I blackballing them? Not a chance. I just think someone could have met one last obligation, not reschedule IMMEDIATELY and oh yeah, we're out of this one but will be HERE opening for these coat tails...
A bad move. Not unforgivable. All IMHORock On Only,
Rocket
Yeah I guess that's about right. Hell I wish BigJeff had Davey's voice.
HoHum
FDOL
Yeah I guess that's about right. Hell I wish BigJeff had Davey's voice.
HoHum
FDOL
Voice? Hell, I wish LittleRoy had Davy's looks! Then I wouldn't be stuck looking like this: http://www.triviatribute.com/images4/martyfeldman1c.jpg
HiHo
LittleRoy
from what i have read i agree with those who said he did something bad but not unforgivable. i'll continue to listen to ohis music if the quality stays sharp
I'm going thru the history of things on Wikipedia and the festival sight. The cancellation at Hot August Night had nothing to do with the line-up change, The "break-up" of the original line up was announced in January. The cancellation for the festival was announced in June (2 months prior to the festival). I beleive it was based on the higher profile gig of opening for Chickenfoot. On a business end it would have been poor business to not take the Chickenfoot gigs to satisfy a few fans coming to the festival.
I'm going thru the history of things on Wikipedia and the festival sight. The cancellation at Hot August Night had nothing to do with the line-up change, The "break-up" of the original line up was announced in January. The cancellation for the festival was announced in June (2 months prior to the festival). I beleive it was based on the higher profile gig of opening for Chickenfoot. On a business end it would have been poor business to not take the Chickenfoot gigs to satisfy a few fans coming to the festival.
Good points Rev., truth be told, all four members of Chickenfoot were present at the Jeff Beck gig in Oakland way back in March. I got to chat with Joe Satriani and Chad Smith who told me they came to check Davy out as well as Jeff Beck. Never did see Davy that night since he was hangin' with Sammy backstage. Not sure if it all came together that night, but I'm sure the decision happened well before June. Many festivals run disclaimers about line-ups being subject to change since they plan them so far in advance and many times they do. As I mentioned, if playing HAB was a golden op, touring with a higher profile act like Chickenfoot was a platinum op.
Have A Cool Yule,
J Dawg
I'm going thru the history of things on Wikipedia and the festival sight. The cancellation at Hot August Night had nothing to do with the line-up change, The "break-up" of the original line up was announced in January. The cancellation for the festival was announced in June (2 months prior to the festival). I beleive it was based on the higher profile gig of opening for Chickenfoot. On a business end it would have been poor business to not take the Chickenfoot gigs to satisfy a few fans coming to the festival.
My mouth=20 thousand fans. Bad business with me. I thought three (two I knew of personally) top notch guitar toting minstrels would make a three-pronged imprint on the blues festival and blues music period. So, I guess my bad business decision was buying into the Back Door Slam hyped up so much for FREE on here by people I know, love, & trust. As it was, my good time there got even worse when I got called away to Washington when I wanted to be a partaying... So, I did some talking with Hoodoo my Mohawk brother... It can go either way. Love exceeds platinum. Sometimes you reach too high, faw down go boom. I still call it riding coat tails, and I had something (a lot actually) to say about that many moons ago on the old Joe Bonamassa forum when I could spin my yarns around the campfire that was that small and loving group and yield to other wise heads, not always wise guys. I look forward to one day soon meeting this fellow, perhaps things can be clarified. Promises to "make it up to you" are not held in terse, anxious fashion by only by women slighted by their man...
Rock ON & Keep the Commitments the best and most Faithful Ways Possible,
Rocket
Not the same as denied border entry!!! And I can be won over (even exceedingly-until then BAH!)
"I'm going thru the history of things on Wikipedia and the festival sight. The cancellation at Hot August Night had nothing to do with the line-up change, The "break-up" of the original line up was announced in January. The cancellation for the festival was announced in June (2 months prior to the festival). I beleive it was based on the higher profile gig of opening for Chickenfoot. On a business end it would have been poor business to not take the Chickenfoot gigs to satisfy a few fans coming to the festival.
I respectfully disagree on two counts. Keeping your word (generally speaking) is not poor business. To be more specific HAB was HUGE. The exposure there was also HUGE. This was not just a few fans. They ran out of food, water and bathrooms because of the size of the crowd. I was there. There was Rocket from Cal, Eva & Gunter from Germany, A contingent from upstate New Yawk and one from New England. Blues Fans from all over the globe.
HUGE! Worldwide! But again only time will tell.
MuchLove
BigJeff
PS: maybe 3 points 
If I was playing blue/rock I would rather open for Joe and/or Derek than Satriani. I hope it doesn't bite him in the ****. I really do.
This was not just a few fans. They ran out of food, water and bathrooms because of the size of the crowd. I was there. There was Rocket from Cal, Eva & Gunter from Germany, A contingent from upstate New Yawk and one from New England. Blues Fans from all over the globe.
...Florida, Texas, Amsterdam......HUGE.....
I'm going thru the history of things on Wikipedia and the festival sight. The cancellation at Hot August Night had nothing to do with the line-up change, The "break-up" of the original line up was announced in January. The cancellation for the festival was announced in June (2 months prior to the festival). I beleive it was based on the higher profile gig of opening for Chickenfoot. On a business end it would have been poor business to not take the Chickenfoot gigs to satisfy a few fans coming to the festival.
Rev. Paul,
I think we're fighting a losing battle here because, some just want to find fault with others no matter what or who it is. You see, you and I have both met Davy and gotten to know him a little. We've seen how he treats everyone; from his fans to the band to the guys that support him on the road. And I must say this, which I'm sure I've said before, you will not meet a kinder, more humble, more gracious man (not just young man) anywhere on this planet. At least, I haven't thus far.
Now, I'm sure I will get responses to this tearing down what I just said about him or, maybe in the case of that "whack attack" that came on this forum a week ago with his ramblings of hate, attacks against me personally. In any case, this is an issue that is long gone now and I for one look forward to a great 2010.
One more thing.......some time ago I got word via the grapevine that the great Joe Bonamassa was again going to play in my beloved State of Wisconsin in our State capital of Madison on April 1st, 2010. It even went as far as being listed on Pollstar for a short time and then disappeared. Now, did I come onto this forum ripping on Joe or his management because he or they elected to go to Australia to play there instead? Or, did I go on the Davy Knowles & Back Door Slam forum and slam Joe there? Obviously, the answer in NO!!
Decsisions are made all the time in life and I would have to say, most of the time they are done for the better than the worse.
Roy
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