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Topic: BDS/Roll Away vs. Roll On

Doesn't suprise me that this topic vanished since I left last evening to see Davy. The scoop I got from middle management was simple. Now that Davey performs under his name with BDS his label decided to avoid any confusion in the marketplace and re-labeled the first CD. Anybody who thinks this move was a slight to Ross & Adam is reading way too much into a marketing manuever.

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Re: BDS/Roll Away vs. Roll On

Dont care for what "management" says. Never have. When a man rides on the backs of his brothers only to change rides as soon as he finds what he thinks is better, or cancels a gig for what looks like a better ride/venue, well then, no matter how talented that "artist" is, he's lost my respect.

Now I've finally said my peace, I'm done.

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Dont care for what "management" says. Never have. When a man rides on the backs of his brothers only to change rides as soon as he finds what he thinks is better, or cancels a gig for what looks like a better ride/venue, well then, no matter how talented that "artist" is, he's lost my respect.

Now I've finally said my peace, I'm done.

Does this apply to Joe as well?

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Re: BDS/Roll Away vs. Roll On

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Spider wrote:

Dont care for what "management" says. Never have. When a man rides on the backs of his brothers only to change rides as soon as he finds what he thinks is better, or cancels a gig for what looks like a better ride/venue, well then, no matter how talented that "artist" is, he's lost my respect.

Now I've finally said my peace, I'm done.

Does this apply to Joe as well?

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If I was speaking of Joe it wouldn't be under the "other artists-BDS/Roll Away vs Roll on" topic/thread.

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bds don't roll away mad.....
just roll away......

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It seems I've missed all the drama, and that's a good thing. First I want to make clear that I really liked Ross and Adam and thought them to be fine musicians. But, anybody that says BDS was such a sensation for any reason other than Davy, has it wrong.

Davy is in the music BUSINESS. It's not a brotherhood and people don't play fair. And, while I was really sad when the band broke up, I understood. The mistake was not calling it Davy Knowles and BDS from the get go. Adam and Ross will still get their royalties. I wish them all the best! JDawg is right. People still think Joe did wrong by former band mates. So be it. That's why it's Joe Bonamassa and whomever he choses. I, for one, approve of his choices.   Cathy

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Spider wrote:
ohiodawg13 wrote:
Spider wrote:

Dont care for what "management" says. Never have. When a man rides on the backs of his brothers only to change rides as soon as he finds what he thinks is better, or cancels a gig for what looks like a better ride/venue, well then, no matter how talented that "artist" is, he's lost my respect.

Now I've finally said my peace, I'm done.

Does this apply to Joe as well?

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If I was speaking of Joe it wouldn't be under the "other artists-BDS/Roll Away vs Roll on" topic/thread.

Sorry Spider, my point as Cathy pointed out, was there was the same flack when Joe let Eric and Kenny go. Everythings subject to change, especially in this line of work. I hope you don't bury Davy over this, he's a good kid with a ton of talent.

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Re: BDS/Roll Away vs. Roll On

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the music BUSINESS. It's not a brotherhood

This right here is so much of what's wrong with music these days. Too much emphasis on BUSINESS and not on music. It's exactly why the music BUSINESS is in the dire circumstances it is today. Just because things are good for business doesn't necessarily make it right. Just ask Bernie Madoff. Carry on now....:/

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Re: BDS/Roll Away vs. Roll On

OK people!  It MIGHT not be just one person's fault.  You were not there in the room.

Conversations in my past:

Funky Doc:  Here's what I want to do...
Other Person:  I ain't doing that...find somebody else.

or

Funky Doc:  I can't stand you drinking onstage and playing drunk...
Other Person: Piss off!  You can't tell me what to do.

Musicians can be difficult.  Bidness can be difficult.  If I think you are holding me back or conversely You think I'm holding you back; our separate ways we must go. 

I agree to some extent with Keith..but that's not the same scenario here IMO...

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I prefer to hear ALL stories about what is the truth from the people involved, otherwise it's hearsay....I personally love that kid Davy, the breakup is just business no matter who's at fault....does it involve me....nope....do I really care if someone got the short end, the're no friend or relative....nope.......I'm still going to listen to the music and attend the shows....does anyone really care if I left this forum and never came back.....nope.....I'd be old news in a relative short time

and that's all I got to say bout that,

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Shredit wrote:

I prefer to hear ALL stories about what is the truth from the people involved, otherwise it's hearsay....I personally love that kid Davy, the breakup is just business no matter who's at fault....does it involve me....nope....do I really care if someone got the short end, the're no friend or relative....nope.......I'm still going to listen to the music and attend the shows....does anyone really care if I left this forum and never came back.....nope.....I'd be old news in a relative short time

and that's all I got to say bout that,

Forrest G.

You are incorrect in one assessment my friend. Make that 2 latter statements my friend. That's not all I got to say about that.  Unlike Spider, the guy hasn't got my respect yet, so he can't lose it.  Not based on hearsay, but on ability to draw my ears' interest solely.  That and a certain cuttin' out I expressed sincere and severe distaste with.   Not at or near any real verdict yet.   However, musically....bored so far.  More impressed with Josh G. and Lief d. L. and Tallan L. and those other little kids so far....honestly.  Do I understand everybody else's points of view....I think so....maybe not mine, but others, yeah.

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Re: BDS/Roll Away vs. Roll On

Shredit wrote:

does anyone really care if I left this forum and never came back.....nope.....I'd be old news in a relative short time

and that's all I got to say bout that,

Forrest G.

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Face it, bands split up all the time for a myriad of reasons.
In an ideal world they'd realize a split was necessary and would work it out and depart still talking to each other...not sure how often that happens though.

And Shred, if the forum ever decided to replace you with a new Shred, we'd ALL come out of the closet!

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Keith wrote:
cathysiler wrote:

the music BUSINESS. It's not a brotherhood

This right here is so much of what's wrong with music these days. Too much emphasis on BUSINESS and not on music. It's exactly why the music BUSINESS is in the dire circumstances it is today. Just because things are good for business doesn't necessarily make it right. Just ask Bernie Madoff. Carry on now....:/

Nobody should be surprised that the business became a big part of it when they started selling the music. If you don't want business in it, don't do it for money. Simple as that.

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eh.... it's just brand management and marketing. No big deal.

Plus Adam and Ross are cooking up something that will come out soon in which I have very high expectations for!

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Spider wrote:

Dont care for what "management" says. Never have. When a man rides on the backs of his brothers only to change rides as soon as he finds what he thinks is better, or cancels a gig for what looks like a better ride/venue, well then, no matter how talented that "artist" is, he's lost my respect.

Now I've finally said my peace, I'm done.

Actually I do agree with you.  Lost a HUGE chance at garnering my respect AND admiration.  And I mean that honestly and without guile or incrimination.
Not that I matter much to anyone, but to me I do.  I know what I would have done and how I would have done it.
In that introspective process, I have indeed lost some respect that wasn't even there yet.  So now I am prejudiced when I was doing all to not become thus.  My piece is said also.

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Re: BDS/Roll Away vs. Roll On

Spider wrote:

Dont care for what "management" says. Never have. When a man rides on the backs of his brothers only to change rides as soon as he finds what he thinks is better, or cancels a gig for what looks like a better ride/venue, well then, no matter how talented that "artist" is, he's lost my respect.

Now I've finally said my peace, I'm done.

he didn't do anything different than joe bonamassa did except change the name of the band.  he wanted to go in a different direrction and he did.  people change band members all the time it happens with nearly every band.  get over it.

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suhl wrote:
Spider wrote:

Dont care for what "management" says. Never have. When a man rides on the backs of his brothers only to change rides as soon as he finds what he thinks is better, or cancels a gig for what looks like a better ride/venue, well then, no matter how talented that "artist" is, he's lost my respect.

Now I've finally said my peace, I'm done.

he didn't do anything different than joe bonamassa did except change the name of the band.  he wanted to go in a different direrction and he did.  people change band members all the time it happens with nearly every band.  get over it.

He backed out of a committed gig. A highly anticipated one at that. 

And I have to laugh at your get over it quip!  Has that happened? lol

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