Re: Joe at River Roots Live - Davenport, Iowa

Dr. Tom wrote:

Wow, such drama...Here's my 2 cents...I got there @ Noon, front row, Joe came out on time...No question about that...The main stage worked like clockwork...The sound was perfect that night...

I have seen them all: Eric, SRV, Eddie, Carlos, B.B., etc. Joe is mentioned in the same conversation...Joe pulled every note he could imagine from that fret board...This was the 3rd time I've seen Joe in person...He brings something new to the table every time...I've been playing for 30yrs., so I know a little bit about guitars, but I hope you can figure out why Joe was changing guitar's all night...(that's in reference to a prior post...)

Finally, I've pre-ordered Joe's Royal Albert Hall DVD...I don't know, or care, who this other band is, but when they put out their DVD from Royal Albert Hall and have Clapton join them on stage, then we'll talk...

Joe, your the best, both on and off the stage...God Bless & please come back to the QC...

Amen!

"He still doesn't charge for mistakes! wink"
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“Now, this isn’t your ordinary party crowd, here.  I mean, there are professionals in here.”

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Amen Dr. Tom!! By the way, I need an adjustment!

I hope that the difference in crowds from last year to this is enough to show that the Quad Cities loves Joe. I took two people to the show who knew nothing about Bonamassa and talked several others into going to the show as well. They still have not stoped talking about what an incredible performance it was and are now trying to decide what show to go to (Peoria, Chicago or Des Moines). I have no doubt that the crowds will continue to grow for River Roots as long as Joe comes back not to mention the fan base!

You don't find a style, ... a style finds you

Keith Richards

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Geez, don't give it a second thought, Joe!   I was stage left near the speakers, also, heard what I thought was the big finale for the side stage, noticed some excitement from the crowd in the center and pulled my phone to check the time...  It said 10;30...  As I stuck it back in my pocket we were suddenly three bars into John Henry!!!   I had ear plugs in, as I was so close  to the P.A. stacks, but had them halfway out by the end of the song and the sound seemed great to me. I eventually pulled the right one out and left the the other in halfway.    Sounded spot on to me...  I'd much rather see a guy switch guitars five or six times than see them retune one guitar 12 times during a show.  Can't please em all, for sure.  The only guitar drop outs I heard all night was the flamed bigsby'd Lester during Last Kiss, and that was momentary, really.  A quick tip, get near the soundboard for the best mix at a live show.  The sound guy is there, mixing it to his vantage point.  Man, that Goldtop sounded GOOD!!  And also the Theremin!  Perfect in the mix!  Bass and drums were great, I coulda used a touch more O' Ricks' keys, but his vocals were fine, I thought.

Now, back to the good stuff!  Like->  Many big thanks to Elliss Kell and Santo and all at the River Roots organization!!!!  And, next year, I'll open for Joe and there will be NO PROBLEMS!!:lol:

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I hadn't seen Joe perform since last year's River Roots, and I've seen him five times overall going back three years.

I gotta back up suhl. Some say progress, I say regress. Regardless of your outlook, the live performance has changed, and I for one lament what once was. I miss the occasional Strat. I miss the excitement of anticipating a jam's evolution. I miss Eric Czar, whom I never got to see live.

Slam away, moddy or whoever, but I ask who here is under 30 (as suhl and I are) and who will be supporting the blues rock market in 20-30 years? Perhaps us young punks now and our oh-so-high standards.

All that aside, Saturday's highlights were Just Got Paid and Woke Up Dreaming. Nothing can drag those down.

Always keeping an open ear ...

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agpetersen wrote:

Slam away, moddy or whoever, but I ask who here is under 30 (as suhl and I are) and who will be supporting the blues rock market in 20-30 years? Perhaps us young punks now and our oh-so-high standards.


Step up and show us how its done man wink

42 (edited by BluesMan 2009-08-27 21:35:29)

Re: Joe at River Roots Live - Davenport, Iowa

OK, I've had enough of the whining. Lets all stop living in the past and move into current day, shall we? Doesn't Joe have the right to change his musical approach any way he thinks it should be? Do we really want Joe as a one dimensional artist with nothing new and bold coming out? The answer has got to be, "Of Course Not!" Hey, bands change, people's taste change and indivuduals grow and change. Thus, Joe's band and approach has changed somewhat.

This reminds me of another current day artist who not too long ago, split from his former bass player and drummer. Some people are still whining about what happened, but you know what? When I hear this young man play now, it is almost as if handcuffs have been removed from him. And needless to say, he has told me he is very happy!

So lets give Joe a break. I mean after all, when has Joe EVER put out a piece of music that everyone said, "What a piece of junk!" The answer to that is NEVER!!

Joe, as far as I'm concerned, don't ever change until the next time you want to. I'll be there listening and bobing my head as usual. smile

Roy

Joe is the Best!

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agpetersen wrote:

I hadn't seen Joe perform since last year's River Roots, and I've seen him five times overall going back three years.

This guy has seen Joe 5 times in three years,  the Suhl dude has seen him 6 times.    Every band needs haters like these guys!!  Have either of you saw any other bands more than you have Joe?

Doug

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I just noticed this one on Davenport. Wondered why no one was hardly posting under the general Topics one.

First off I think anyone that knows me will tell you if Joe did a bad set I would say so and I would have to say that He did an outstanding show at Davenport. As far as when he started, he started right on time and I glad he did because if memory serves me right last year the band on the other stage ran over and cut his set short (anyone else remember that?).

I thought it was a great show. Were the light pods on stage part of Joes equipment? Nice added look.

When I was a child I spoke as a child, But all I heard was how I should get ahead,
Now growing up it ain't anything but all This indecision with these debts and doubts
And worries hanging over my head. When I was a child I spoke as a child,
I wish I could remember what I said.

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srxman2001 wrote:
agpetersen wrote:

I hadn't seen Joe perform since last year's River Roots, and I've seen him five times overall going back three years.

This guy has seen Joe 5 times in three years,  the Suhl dude has seen him 6 times.    Every band needs haters like these guys!!  Have either of you saw any other bands more than you have Joe?

big_smile big_smile big_smile

ReverendPaul wrote:

I just noticed this one on Davenport. Wondered why no one was hardly posting under the general Topics one.

First off I think anyone that knows me will tell you if Joe did a bad set I would say so and I would have to say that He did an outstanding show at Davenport. As far as when he started, he started right on time and I glad he did because if memory serves me right last year the band on the other stage ran over and cut his set short (anyone else remember that?).

I thought it was a great show. Were the light pods on stage part of Joes equipment? Nice added look.

Now that you mention it Reverend, yes Joe did start a bit late last year as well - how much late I don't recall, but he didn't play a 90 min. set last year.

I do believe those were Joe's lights.

And I agree with those that thought the show was great. I thought vocally it wasn't Joe's best, but his guitar work was brilliant. I spent a lot of time watching Carmine as well because he was clearly having a blast!

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Please don't get into a name-calling thing with this band, That never helps.  Don't misunderstand--> this was an accident.  Pure and simple.  I heard what I thought was a big crescendo finale from that stage and I thought they were done.  Until I came on here the next day, I had no idea they were still playing by the time Joe walked out on stage.  I'd bet Joe is sick about this.  And, it makes no difference if they were a big name act or a local band.  IT WAS A MISTAKE!  Very unfortunate but once you committ and start your show, you're on.  I really like the "play the Adler Theater next time" comment, and I fully concur!
As far as Joe's new direction, the stuff he's doing now seems to be working, don't you agree?  Bigger shows, cd sales, etc.   It's a big task to be the guy carrying the show in a trio, as the singer and guitar player.  Having Rick's keys and backing vocals takes quite a bit of heat off of Joe, and he seems to be more comfortable.  I also loved the power trio aspect of the earlier incarnation, but to your average music fan(non-musician)  the new format is more wide-ranging.  There are less jams, more foundation, shorter solos and just more structure which long time fans will veiw as repetition, I guess.  If you've ever followed a band or artist and seen several shows within a short space of time, you will see that they often have blocked out stage moves/lighting cues and sometimes use the same banter between songs, and stuff like that.  Joe is certainally not the first to do something like that!  You still get plenty O' guitar swat to get yer rawks off on!  Just wait for the next cd.  I hear it's sposed to ROCK!

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agpetersen wrote:

Slam away, moddy or whoever, but I ask who here is under 30 (as suhl and I are) and who will be supporting the blues rock market in 20-30 years?

Well I am 22, from England and I since I got into Joe Bonamassa last year I just can't stop listening to his CD's. I have all of them now and have been brought up on Clapton, SRV, Rory Gallagher etc and seriously, Bonamassa is the best and most passionate guitarest I have ever heard. His music can comfort me on a bad day and rejoice with me on a good day. That is why I am one person under 30 who is going to keep a damned close eye on what this amazing artist is doing!

Although, please could you keep the tour times up to date, I now have to sit right at the back of the gig at Nottingham and nearly had a heart attack when I heard that Southampton was sold out! : ) Still, least being at the back and being small, I can bring a booster seat and not annoy anyone!

48 (edited by belgie 2009-08-29 03:32:49)

Re: Joe at River Roots Live - Davenport, Iowa

I have seen joe 7 times in the last 4 years, every chance ive had. he has never failed to please me with his music . the saturday night show , i thought was primo! came out wailing on that double neck and didnt stop playing till midnight. he started at 10:30 , by the way. the show WAS running a bit late and i thought the other band was done myself. actually , i thought they had it set up for him to immediately start when the other band stopped. they need to quit whinning and realize that joe was the closer and wanted to get as much in, in a short amount of time.joe been here the last 4 years at one time or another, and always has drawn a good crowd. please , joe , dont stop coming to the quad cities because of a few idiots!

49 (edited by TB 2009-08-30 18:57:17)

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I was at the show in Davenport.Standing next to the sound and light board. The mix actually was very good in this position.The vocals were clear and bright with some nice seething highs to them so Joe's awesome voice could put the goosebumps right on your skin.The keys were there, the drums and bass were good and the guitar was hot.. Joe came out right on time 10:30 p.m..To play for the people who were waiting all year for him. They could care less about this other group.We have plenty of bands of the Backyard Tire Fire's caliber in the quad cities.But we were fortunate enough to get Joe Bonamassa on a Sat. Night for god'd sake. Come on people. If Joe wasn't going to play the other band would not have even been there to warm up for him. They should be notified that they are not welcome back at the River Roots Live Show's again.And to try and denigrate a top notch guitar player who has paid his dues for 20 years playing on the road.Recently at sold out Royal Albert Hall Eric Clapton came and played alongside this talented guitarist Joe Bonamassa.And I know Clapton dug it.But Joe still is a very down to earth humble guy. Get Real..I heard Joe in early March 2009 in Elgin, Ill in a 550 seat theatre. Which was the best.And at that show Joe was very gracious and appreciative of his audience.He thanked them repeatedly for not only coming to his shows but for buying his music.Joe you are needed here in this city in the heartland on the banks of the mighty Mississippi please come back next year.Maybe we can get you on a set earlier.We had the Guess Who and The Fabilous Thunderbirds in the earlier time slot for the past 2 yrs. Let's put Joe Bonamassa in that slot.He darned sure earned it. I'll see you Joe in Peoria, Il. Oct.23, 2009.Can't wait.T.B.

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TB wrote:

I was at the show in Davenport.Standing next to the sound and light board. The mix actually was very good in this position.The vocals were clear and bright with some nice seething highs to them so Joe's awesome voice could put the chills in your skin.The keys were there, the drums and bass were good and the guitar was hot.. Joe came out right on time 10:30 p.m..To play for the people who were waiting all year for him. They could care less about this other group.We have plenty of bands of the Backyard Tire Fire's caliber in the quad cities.But we were fortunate enough to get Joe Bonamassa on a Sat. Night for god'd sake. Come on people. If Joe wasn't going to play the other band would not have even been there to warm up for him. They should be notified that they are not welcome back at the River Roots Live Show's again.And to try and denigrate a top notch guitar player who has paid his dues for 20 years playing on the road.Recently at sold out Royal Albert Hall Eric Clapton came and played alongside this talented guitarist Joe Bonamassa.And I know Clapton dug it.But Joe still is a very down to earth humble guy. Get Real..I heard Joe in early March 2009 in Elgin, Ill in a 550 seat theatre. Which was the best.And at that show Joe was very gracious and appreciative of his audience.He thanked them repeatedly for not only coming to his shows but for buying his music.Joe you are needed here in this city in the heartland on the banks of the mighty Mississippi please come back next year.Maybe we can get you on a set earlier.We had the Guess Who and The Fabilous Thunderbirds in the earlier time slot for the past 2 yrs. Let's put Joe Bonamassa in that slot.He darned sure earned it. I'll see you Joe in Peoria, Il. Oct.23, 2009.Can't wait.T.B.

TB,
First off, welcome to the forum! Great first post, although it's too bad it had to be on a topic where Joe was being criticized.
I was at the Elgin show and at River Roots last year and this year and agree with everything you said, except putting Joe on stage earlier. The problem with that is I don't think they would be able to find a band that wants to go on stage AFTER Joe!

"Rock ON & Keep the Faith"

51 (edited by Rocket 2009-08-30 22:47:47)

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Hi to TB and stick around, that's a great way to start out posting-as you see and hear it wink ! Hey Bill it is too bad he had to post on this type of thread.  However, in the final analysis it is GREAT to post on this kind!!! The choir always needs a new soloist to step up and sing praises! And you are right, a summer festival with Joe Bonamassa sending the masses home with cool warmth and fuzzifications while he rolls down the highway is a perfect ending to any day or night! And frankly, this band's pitiful display of frustrated anger was displaced because of, for all intents and purpose, once again in the final analysis, an accidental situation misinterpreted which was actually HAVING to follow Joe Bonamassa once he started to play. Not a place for happy campers in their backyard burnin' tires for light/warmth, dioxins up their noses... that'll tend to irritate the senses...and the sensibilities...
Fire's out, smoke cleared-The End
Rock On & Keep the Faith,
Rocket

"He still doesn't charge for mistakes! wink"
http://jbonamassa.com/tour-dates/
"Everybody wants ta get inta the act!"
“Now, this isn’t your ordinary party crowd, here.  I mean, there are professionals in here.”

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Hello to all. To Bill S and Rocket. ThankYou Very much for your warm welcome to the Joe Bonamassa forum. Yes this topic really is a bummer.The idea Joe really would not return to River Roots next year because of the backyard tire fire band is just sad.They must realize that Joe had no reason to purposely upstage them. There is no competition. They are world's apart. I did hear them in the background and they sounded pretty good.Everyone I talked to that was at the gig said Joe was right on time.We had a group of about 10.The other postings that claim the sound of the P.A. was bad to me is more of a argumentitive issue than if some one started late or early. I know that system sounded good. And Joe kicked some b#tt. Thanks Again.This sounds pretty good thru my Klipsch Speakers. Try it out thru yours. See you in Peoria Joe....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcimaWLXTas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWHXxiRH6dY

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Thanks for posting the video. Looks like a pretty cool festival. Des Moines looks like they do it right. I have only been there once in the early 90's for a AAU National Baseball Tournement. They did that right too by the way too.

54 (edited by joebeacon 2009-09-06 01:33:23)

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suhl wrote:

There was definitely competition for the sound.  All i can say is I am glad I didn't pay for that show.  Sad fact is Joe plays is more and more ordinary every time I see him.  It is honestly tragic what the new band has done to had to cry today.  We watched rockpalast upon getting home just to make sure my judgement that it was superior in every conceivable way wasn't flawed.  It wasn't.  I know most people here think it is cruel to have a bad opinion of new Joe, but honestly, watch one of the old dvds immediately following a live show.  I really don't know how anyone could have fallen in love with his old live music and not be incredibly let down by what he is doing now. 

I'm sorry, but this being my sixth time seeing Joe i am not going to see him again unless it is free.  I am not exaggerating when I say it has gotten more and more boring every time.  This is partially because he plays the same basic show every time, but the playing is getting more and more dumbed down far less risky and the band does absolutely nothing to push him.  Like i said, i'll see him again on a free show, otherwise no.

dude i hear where you are coming from and i have been seening bands for a long long time . i have been seeing joe since his bloodline days and yes he was a little more risky back in the day but that doesn't mean his playing isn't better now . joe has cleaned up his sound and has mastered his playing . to you it might sound different then the old days and it does but if you where to look at any other band thats been around for a long time there sound when they started out to the sound they have now has changed . i play the bass and i don't sound the same as i did when i was 15 . i have new amps a new sound it's just the way it goes . it get's boring if your sound just stays the same and your playing . so before you get on here and point blame at the new band etc. just go back and listen to the dead, u2, the stones, the who , etc and see what they sounded like when they started out and what they sound like now . i can ramble on about this for a long time but i will keep it short . think before you type something about a way a band sounds when they start out and what they sound like years later no band out there  has keep the same sound and if they did they arent around anymore .ok i am done i think i made my point .........joe