Re: Joe's Gigliotti GT

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I would say, the labor is more expensive - and the standards of quality are higher in US due to the higher costs/final price. Japan and Europe make some good guitars as well; but Taiwan, Korea, etc tend to make less costly, less quality guitars (with few exceptions.) The labor is cheaper, the quality of parts is less, making the guitars more cost effective.

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Even though I do prefer American made guitars, I have found that some guitars made overseas or in Mehico (or mexico for those of you who don't know my version of american-spanish...) are very comparable to the quality of Am. guitars.  Actually, I have even found some that are of better quality...

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There are some great Japanese made guitars out there.  Look at some of the MIJ vintage Ibanez guitars, Fender from the 80s, Alvarez-Yairi.  Also there are some fine fine makers in Europe as well...mostly smaller shops but on a whole it's generally known that almost all brand name guitar makers out of the US are high quality.  I'm NOT saying that's the case all the time, but generally speaking.  Even those "respected" US makers have plenty of crappy guitars.

One of the coolest Tele style guitars I had was a MIJ 1986 Esquire.  That thing played and sounded great.  I loved the pickup and the guitar overall.  I sold it this spring when buying my 1966 Stratocaster...otherwise I would have kept it.

My main acoustic is an Alvarez-Yairi from 1994.  It's a phenominal guitar, it was inexpensive.  And like h*ll am I spending all that money on a US made Martin or Taylor...when my AY fits the bill perfectly.

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What I'd like to know is what is the least amount you have to spend to get a halfway decent guitar?

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For $500 you can get great MIJ Fenders.  Get a used one from the 80s and you can be fairly sure to get a killer guitar.  It might need a setup job, but a small price to pay for a great guitar.

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Thanks, wood. You know, I almost did get a Japanese one years ago but decided to get a Mexican one instead. It never stayed in tune.

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You can check a bunch of things to keep it in tune.  First make sure it's intonated correctly.  Second would be to check the nut for binding, if the gap where strings go is too tight, it'll cause too much/uneven friction and cause the guitar to go out of tune.  Another thing to check is the string tree, make sure it's not bound too tight against the strings it covers.  Another one...people don't think about much is that if it's a 6 screw tremolo is to make sure the screws are not too tight down there.  For about $30-40 an honest and good luthier should be able to correct your tuning instability.  Most of this doesn't take long to fix but if you've never done it before leave it to a pro.  If you do all these things and still have a tad bit of issues with tuning (I doubt you will), there's a product by Big Bends (I think) called Nut Sauce.  It comes with instructions, but basically I put it in the nut slots of my guitars and it helps them out some.  It's expensive for what you get (~$20) but I have had success with it helping the tuning stability.

MIM guitars have a reputation for not being set up correctly, if you do those things you'll have a much better guitar in your hands.

Hope that helps.

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Thanks very much!

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No problem David, hope it helps.  BTW where are you from David?  I see "central New York" listed, if you're close enough to Utica I have just the guy for you to do those repairs.  Leave your email for me if you're interested.

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Sent  you an e-mail, wood.

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my avatar pic is the cheapest guitar I own.  It was $339 on ebay.  It was a brand new Jay Turser Serpent model made in Korea.  It is a copy of a PRS Dragon inlay w/ a single cutaway like a les paul.  I love the guitar, put better pickups in it, and had the neck setup.  They booger'd the clear coat in some spots, but is a neck-through body or set neck.  It really does the job.  compared to a multi-thousand dollar PRS, I have a good value that I dont have to worry about its health or security when playing gigs.

Altough WHEN you do play a real PRS, you do know where the extra money goes. But for what I paid, I feel as if I stole a medium quality guitar.

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Glad to see everyone likes the Gigliotti Guitar line. I'm a former employee of Pat's and he's pretty much a genius when it comes to making sound come out of a piece of wood. If any of you want...I have pictures of the prototype, just ask and I'll send them to you.

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I've played some of those early Gigliottis...the white Esquire one (IIRC) was pretty cool looking.  I love my Gigliotti GT Custom.

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Are those seymour duncan hot rails in it?  how do you like those?

i also saw in the pic the apple g4 tower at the bottom, mac all the way!

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They are Joe Barden's in it.

That G4 is 7 years 3 months old.  Tell me to buy a PC now. lol  It's running my ProTools MixPlus rig.

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I didn't read this thread when it originated, but just noticed this post about some of the good Japanese models.  My hubby Anthony has a small guitar collection with a combination of Fenders, Taylor, Larrivee, PRS... it keeps multiplying.  He had his eye on a Vintage Gibson L5 that had an outrageous ticket price IMO. He has a day job, just plays for fun and is not in a band. I think many posters here will think this is totally cheesy, but he has picked up 3 gorgeous Gibson knock-offs that are Japanese, maybe 1 is Korean, not sure, for about $2000. (L5, ES-335 and ES-175 ) The first one he got on e-bay where you buy it outright, it's my favorite of the three. It's the L5 knock-off and it looks and sounds fabulous.  He only paid about $400...the guy photographed every inch of the guitar front and back, the neck, took measurements..he was a pleasure to do business with. It came packaged really well and in a Gibson hard case, in perfect condition. The ES-175 knock-off needed a new tailpiece and the Gibson part fit exactly. They are all considered Vintage 70's.  I believe some of these Japanese guitar companies were sued by Gibson back in the day for copying their guitars.  The L5 is a Vantage, I think the ES175 is Alvarez. The Vantage was written up in either Guitar Player or Guitar World the month after Anthony purchased it saying what great quality and excellent pricing this guitar was. The staff writer purchased it on the internet.  I know it doesn't have the Gibson name, but I'll speak for the Vantage, since he plays that the most of the three, it's spectacular! 

wood wrote:

There are some great Japanese made guitars out there.  Look at some of the MIJ vintage Ibanez guitars, Fender from the 80s, Alvarez-Yairi.  Also there are some fine fine makers in Europe as well...mostly smaller shops but on a whole it's generally known that almost all brand name guitar makers out of the US are high quality.  I'm NOT saying that's the case all the time, but generally speaking.  Even those "respected" US makers have plenty of crappy guitars.

One of the coolest Tele style guitars I had was a MIJ 1986 Esquire.  That thing played and sounded great.  I loved the pickup and the guitar overall.  I sold it this spring when buying my 1966 Stratocaster...otherwise I would have kept it.

My main acoustic is an Alvarez-Yairi from 1994.  It's a phenominal guitar, it was inexpensive.  And like h*ll am I spending all that money on a US made Martin or Taylor...when my AY fits the bill perfectly.

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wood wrote:

They are Joe Barden's in it.

That G4 is 7 years 3 months old.  Tell me to buy a PC now. lol  It's running my ProTools MixPlus rig.

Thats how old mine is, but i just got the 20" imac....LOVE IT!

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I won't replace it until it really dies...