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Re: The BDS-opinion thread

By the time I finished reading all the posts, I had to go back and see what the original question was!
I stayed away for as long as I could, but figure it's time to weigh in.
I have seen BDS live 3 times, and will see them again whenever they return to the Chicago area.
I refuse to compare them to Joe, because that would be enormously unfair. Joe has spent YEARS honing his skills and is the consummate showman. BDS is a collection of 21 year olds that (I hope) will continue to grow and evolve with time.

BDS strikes a chord (no pun intended) with me, both recorded and live.
They are talented young musicians and they play a style of music that I really enjoy, originals and covers.
Davy is a wonderful song writer and a very good guitarist. Adam and Ross are talented in their own right.
I have had an opportunity to have a short chat with them and they strike me as humble and grateful for everything that is happening to them. They express gratitude to everyone that comes to see a show and seem almost surprised by the attention they are receiving.
They are just starting out on this journey they are taking and, personally, I hope it will be a long one.
Time will tell.

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Footnote:  Recently obtained info re BDS/JB show......It is rumored that BDS had a van breakdown and were late for the gig...Subsequently their show ran 15 minutes over. That, in turn, lead to JB starting late. I don't imagine there was any time for a jam. It's also possible that this caused some to feel the boys were being disrespectful. I would remind those folks to recall a slam to Joe in a review from a festival this year. His sound check ran long, which the reviewer reported as being rude...yada, yada, you get the idea. So, like them or don't like them...based on their music.    Hope this sheds some light.   Cathy

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I was there Cathy. The show started on time. They played over. When opening act is given 30 minutes it means 30 minutes. A band needs to be able to play 30, 45, 75, 90, minute sets to be able to play according to schedules. It is part of being professional.

I have had Joe several times and have asked for opening slots for local bands as well as regional and national. The rules are set and they know to adhere to them. Its not just Joe. It is every headliner I have ever done who allowed an opener.

I don't know if that was the reason Joe didn't invite Davy to jam or they didn't have a chance to talk much prior to the show. Joe had an appearance scheduled till close to show time. If they didn't get there till late then maybe they didn't have time to chat.

Either way I'm sure their paths will cross again and circumstances will be different and the opportunity will present itself again. I will suggest however that if they are given 30 minutes they play 30 minutes.

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Bill S wrote:

By the time I finished reading all the posts, I had to go back and see what the original question was!
I stayed away for as long as I could, but figure it's time to weigh in.
I have seen BDS live 3 times, and will see them again whenever they return to the Chicago area.
I refuse to compare them to Joe, because that would be enormously unfair. Joe has spent YEARS honing his skills and is the consummate showman. BDS is a collection of 21 year olds that (I hope) will continue to grow and evolve with time.

BDS strikes a chord (no pun intended) with me, both recorded and live.
They are talented young musicians and they play a style of music that I really enjoy, originals and covers.
Davy is a wonderful song writer and a very good guitarist. Adam and Ross are talented in their own right.
I have had an opportunity to have a short chat with them and they strike me as humble and grateful for everything that is happening to them. They express gratitude to everyone that comes to see a show and seem almost surprised by the attention they are receiving.
They are just starting out on this journey they are taking and, personally, I hope it will be a long one.
Time will tell.

I whole heartedly agree Bill. However, I have yet to see the boys live (will be very soon) but I do enjoy their music.

And no Eva we're not done yet. We still haven't heard from Libby on this subject. I know she loves BDS so I'm really looking forward to seeing/reading her point of view on them and what has been said here.

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jim m wrote:

I was there Cathy. The show started on time. They played over. When opening act is given 30 minutes it means 30 minutes. A band needs to be able to play 30, 45, 75, 90, minute sets to be able to play according to schedules. It is part of being professional.

Very good point Jim. I've done openers for quite a few national acts and i've always made a conscious effort to make sure I was done exactly at the end of the allowed time, and in some instances even a couple of minutes early. It's the easiest way to make the best impression on the headliner and even possibly secure the chance of getting to work with them again. Not very cool or professional to go over your given slot.

Knowing Joe, that's probably not the reason a jam between the two of them didn't occur, but I've seen this very situation annoy other headliners enough to make them completely shun the  opening act. Just best to not do anything to make waves when you are the opening act.

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The guys from BDS and Joe had their photo taken together, so hopefully there was no bad feelings. smile

That's all I have to say on the matter...

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Greenose wrote:

The guys from BDS and Joe had their photo taken together, so hopefully there was no bad feelings. smile

That's all I have to say on the matter...

nah i don't see that being the case. I'm sure Joe didn't mind that they played over their set time. Some artists will though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EGOdbJ4sRM

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I wonder how many people on this board were around to remember a certain occasion when Joe was opening for Walter Trout and the audience didnt want Joe to stop playing
and getting caught up in the moment he ended up running about this same amount of time over and into Walter's set ?
I would hope that Joe dealt with this better than Walter did back then !!


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jim m wrote:

I was there Cathy. The show started on time. They played over. When opening act is given 30 minutes it means 30 minutes. A band needs to be able to play 30, 45, 75, 90, minute sets to be able to play according to schedules. It is part of being professional.

Very good point Jim. I've done openers for quite a few national acts and i've always made a conscious effort to make sure I was done exactly at the end of the allowed time, and in some instances even a couple of minutes early. It's the easiest way to make the best impression on the headliner and even possibly secure the chance of getting to work with them again. Not very cool or professional to go over your given slot.

Knowing Joe, that's probably not the reason a jam between the two of them didn't occur, but I've seen this very situation annoy other headliners enough to make them completely shun the  opening act. Just best to not do anything to make waves when you are the opening act.

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Ragamuffin1 wrote:
Spider wrote:

We still haven't heard from Libby on this subject. I know she loves BDS so I'm really looking forward to seeing/reading her point of view on them and what has been said here.

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I agree, Spider
How about it Libster??
Your opinion matters...to more than just a few of us...

Libby wrote:

I'm Libby and I LOVE Back Door Slam.  I LOVE the music - the covers, and the originals.  I LOVE the quality of Davy's voice and it's DEEP, mature connection to his own soul and that of the music.  I am awestuck when I watch Davy play.  I am DRIVEN by the rhythm section.  When I have them playing in my car (which is often), I find myself bouncing and dancing in my seat to Adam's bass....... and beating on my steering wheel to Ross' drums......and, on the flip side of that EXCITEMENT, I have been MOVED to tears by the tenderness of some pieces and some lyrics and the knowledge of the heartache behind them.  I have been blessed to see them live several times now.......I LOVE to watch the communication and connection between these musicians who have grown up together and grown INTO the band members and fine men that they are.

I must say, similarly to Joe, that I am SO completely KNOCKED OUT by the character which these three young men possess - they are, quite simply, some of the most humble, polite, gracious, grateful, positive, funny and SINCERE people of ANY age that I have EVER met.  Those things go a LONG way for me.  If I find a musician or group with great talent, I may follow them for a moment........ but, for ME, if that same musician shows me that they UNDERSTAND that it is NOT all about them....... that there is a bigger picture, way beyond their own ego........ THAT person is likely to pique my interest....... and the MORE I get to know that kind of musician and the more they reveal THOSE SPECIAL HUMAN QUALITIES to me....... the more committed and faithful I will be in my support and promotion of them.  Life is short - I have little time for anything less.  Give me your guts, and your energy and your gratitude and no attitude, and, in turn, as a fan,  I will give you EVERYTHING I am.

Simple stuff, really.  Talent + character = MAGIC.  Magic works for ME.


smile   Libby   smile

Easy found with search option! smile

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Greenose wrote:
Ragamuffin1 wrote:
Spider wrote:

We still haven't heard from Libby on this subject. I know she loves BDS so I'm really looking forward to seeing/reading her point of view on them and what has been said here.

Stay Safe
Spider

I agree, Spider
How about it Libster??
Your opinion matters...to more than just a few of us...

Libby wrote:

I'm Libby and I LOVE Back Door Slam.  I LOVE the music - the covers, and the originals.  I LOVE the quality of Davy's voice and it's DEEP, mature connection to his own soul and that of the music.  I am awestuck when I watch Davy play.  I am DRIVEN by the rhythm section.  When I have them playing in my car (which is often), I find myself bouncing and dancing in my seat to Adam's bass....... and beating on my steering wheel to Ross' drums......and, on the flip side of that EXCITEMENT, I have been MOVED to tears by the tenderness of some pieces and some lyrics and the knowledge of the heartache behind them.  I have been blessed to see them live several times now.......I LOVE to watch the communication and connection between these musicians who have grown up together and grown INTO the band members and fine men that they are.

I must say, similarly to Joe, that I am SO completely KNOCKED OUT by the character which these three young men possess - they are, quite simply, some of the most humble, polite, gracious, grateful, positive, funny and SINCERE people of ANY age that I have EVER met.  Those things go a LONG way for me.  If I find a musician or group with great talent, I may follow them for a moment........ but, for ME, if that same musician shows me that they UNDERSTAND that it is NOT all about them....... that there is a bigger picture, way beyond their own ego........ THAT person is likely to pique my interest....... and the MORE I get to know that kind of musician and the more they reveal THOSE SPECIAL HUMAN QUALITIES to me....... the more committed and faithful I will be in my support and promotion of them.  Life is short - I have little time for anything less.  Give me your guts, and your energy and your gratitude and no attitude, and, in turn, as a fan,  I will give you EVERYTHING I am.

Simple stuff, really.  Talent + character = MAGIC.  Magic works for ME.


smile   Libby   smile

Easy found with search option! smile

Is Libbys quote from this thread? No it's not. So to post it here is disrespectful to Libby.

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Whoa there, Spider. I think Greenose was only trying to be helpful, if slightly indelicately. I agree though, not enough use is made of the search function on the Forum.

As for disrespect, I think only Libby can say that.

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Libby has confirmed to both myself and Spider that she did not find my use of her quote as being disrespectful. She will speak in her own time.

"The recently formed Edinburgh Blues Club has identified an appetite for the personal communication between musicians and audience that the blues long ago perfected." The Herald Newspaper (Scotland)
http://www.edinburgh-blues.uk