Re: Gasoline...are you kiddin me??

David23 wrote:

So you're country is perfect?

Nope, nobody's country is perfect.

We might continue this discussion if you actually read what I wrote, instead of coming out with a gut defensive reaction to a perceived 'attack', rather than making any substantive contribution.

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Re: Gasoline...are you kiddin me??

Amsterhammer wrote:
David23 wrote:

So you're country is perfect?

Nope, nobody's country is perfect.

We might continue this discussion if you actually read what I wrote, instead of coming out with a gut defensive reaction to a perceived 'attack', rather than making any substantive contribution.

Read and think before writing or speaking?  Surely you jest, sir. lol

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This is why we try to stay away from this types of topics here. Started out pretty innocent. Just somebody asking what people are paying for gas. Even my post didn't address that question. By the way it is $3.19 today. We are lucky along with Texas to be close to refineries and since the state recieves revenue from the production the taxes are not as bad as elsewhere.

Let's get back on the original posts question or we will have to close it down. I think this is a conversational point much like talking about the weather. Just when you talk about the weather you don't have any body to blame for it. Oh yes you do even that topic can get out of hand now that we are blaming ourselves for which way the wind might be blowing.

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Re: Gasoline...are you kiddin me??

If living near a refinery meant paying less for gas then why am I paying $3.49 today for regular with 4 refineries 2 to 20 miles from my house?

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If we burn that fast food grease, us be smelling like french fries.  PEE YEW daddy, what's dat smell?

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Re: Gasoline...are you kiddin me??

ohiodawg13 wrote:

If living near a refinery meant paying less for gas then why am I paying $3.49 today for regular with 4 refineries 2 to 20 miles from my house?

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Somebody's taxes has to buy the governator a new Hummer.  lol

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I really hope that you two beautiful lunatics will make it over next April!

There are some ace people on this here forum. I feel right at home.

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YUP!  Me too.

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Re: Gasoline...are you kiddin me??

ohiodawg13 wrote:

If living near a refinery meant paying less for gas then why am I paying $3.49 today for regular with 4 refineries 2 to 20 miles from my house?

                                                                                       Think Greener Before It's Too Late,

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California taxes maybe? Its the golden state with the golden rules. Greener? I haven't gotten used to thinking green yet.

Re: Gasoline...are you kiddin me??

jim m wrote:
ohiodawg13 wrote:

If living near a refinery meant paying less for gas then why am I paying $3.49 today for regular with 4 refineries 2 to 20 miles from my house?

                                                                                       Think Greener Before It's Too Late,

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California taxes maybe? Its the golden state with the golden rules. Greener? I haven't gotten used to thinking green yet.

Yup, probably just higher cost of living.  Gas is around $3 for regular unleaded around here.

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MontiusWinston wrote:
jim m wrote:
ohiodawg13 wrote:

If living near a refinery meant paying less for gas then why am I paying $3.49 today for regular with 4 refineries 2 to 20 miles from my house?

                                                                                       Think Greener Before It's Too Late,

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California taxes maybe? Its the golden state with the golden rules. Greener? I haven't gotten used to thinking green yet.

Yup, probably just higher cost of living.  Gas is around $3 for regular unleaded around here.

If it were only that simple. Every state has varying tax applications, but this evening one Bay Area news channel shopped it around to see what people were paying today. prices varied from the norm of $3.49 to $4.15 for reg. only. Obviously retailers can gouge us as much as they want on top of what the petroleum giants want to squeeze out of the market. For those of you who were driving back in '74 might remember the first so called gas shortage. I waited in line in Walnut Creek for three hrs. the morning I moved north to Chico for college. After I finally got my VW tanked up at about .55 or .59 cents a gallon, outrageous for that era, I was off to school. As I  rolled into Chico I was surprised to see no lines at the gas stations in town. I figured they had all run out of their allotments as it was later in the day. I stopped at one with a mini mart for a soda and asked the guy when they would have gas again. He looked at me like I was nuts or something and said his tanks were full and the price was .27 cents a gallon. There's no reason Bay Area prices are higher than any other part of the country other than it's what the market will bear and the refiners know it.

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Re: Gasoline...are you kiddin me??

ohiodawg13 wrote:
MontiusWinston wrote:
jim m wrote:

California taxes maybe? Its the golden state with the golden rules. Greener? I haven't gotten used to thinking green yet.

Yup, probably just higher cost of living.  Gas is around $3 for regular unleaded around here.

If it were only that simple. Every state has varying tax applications, but this evening one Bay Area news channel shopped it around to see what people were paying today. prices varied from the norm of $3.49 to $4.15 for reg. only. Obviously retailers can gouge us as much as they want on top of what the petroleum giants want to squeeze out of the market. For those of you who were driving back in '74 might remember the first so called gas shortage. I waited in line in Walnut Creek for three hrs. the morning I moved north to Chico for college. After I finally got my VW tanked up at about .55 or .59 cents a gallon, outrageous for that era, I was off to school. As I  rolled into Chico I was surprised to see no lines at the gas stations in town. I figured they had all run out of their allotments as it was later in the day. I stopped at one with a mini mart for a soda and asked the guy when they would have gas again. He looked at me like I was nuts or something and said his tanks were full and the price was .27 cents a gallon. There's no reason Bay Area prices are higher than any other part of the country other than it's what the market will bear and the refiners know it.

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Of course, but cost of living does factor into many things like that.  My dollar goes a lot further here in Kansas than it would in, say, California or New York (but on the same token, jobs pay far less here).  The price of gas obviously has several factors involved, but cost of living is still a factor (just not the only one).

For instance, I can get an apartment here in the Midwest for $400 that would cost me over a grand on the coasts.

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If you guys in the States ever change to litres, boy is that going to mess with your heads. We went to litres a few years ago and it's now clear that everyone concerned used it as a huge scam, but we've had a double whammy...

Whilst the old pre decimal one penny or two on a gallon didn't seem much. We  then went decimal coinage but kept our gallons for a while, prices went up by smaller amounts  (or so it seemed) because the decimal equivalent was smaller (6 old pennys became 2.5 pence), then we got petrol in litres, so a 2.5 pence per litre rise in price was really 10 pence per gallon new money or 25 penny or five old shillings (a quarter of a pound) a gallon. All in the spce of a few years. By the way, 95% of our petrol price is government tax! Nuff said

Bye the way if you get a headache understanding this, ask any visiting Brit to explain, you'll get bored before he does!

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Geoff wrote:

If you guys in the States ever change to litres, boy is that going to mess with your heads. We went to litres a few years ago and it's now clear that everyone concerned used it as a huge scam, but we've had a double whammy...

Whilst the old pre decimal one penny or two on a gallon didn't seem much. We  then went decimal coinage but kept our gallons for a while, prices went up by smaller amounts  (or so it seemed) because the decimal equivalent was smaller (6 old pennys became 2.5 pence), then we got petrol in litres, so a 2.5 pence per litre rise in price was really 10 pence per gallon new money or 25 penny or five old shillings (a quarter of a pound) a gallon. All in the spce of a few years. By the way, 95% of our petrol price is government tax! Nuff said

Bye the way if you get a headache understanding this, ask any visiting Brit to explain, you'll get bored before he does!

Geoff

Yeah, I believe our government subsidizes a lot of our fuel.  This keeps our prices down compared to a lot of European countries.

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jim m wrote:
ohiodawg13 wrote:

If living near a refinery meant paying less for gas then why am I paying $3.49 today for regular with 4 refineries 2 to 20 miles from my house?

                                                                                       Think Greener Before It's Too Late,

                                                                                       J Dawg

California taxes maybe? Its the golden state with the golden rules. Greener? I haven't gotten used to thinking green yet.

Getting in the green of things is as simple as next time you go to a Joe show hook up with some other fans and fill up just one vehicle, you know, car pool. Another starting point is replace your light bulbs with the new energy saver flourescent type. Or try putting your groceries in reuseable canvas bags when you shop. Try cutting the thermostat up or down, depending on the season, just two degrees and tough it out. These are just little things, but they start to add up. There's too many people everywhere still taking our energy sources for granted. It's time for all of us, at least those with a conscience to do their part no matter how small. These efforts also put money in your pocket.

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I agree, we really need to do something about those cows farting! they are totally disintegrating the greenhouse gasses and ruining our atmoshere - bfffp - not just cows. Sorry if you think I'm being synical, but I'm getting just a bit hacked off by our government jumping on the bandwagon and taxing anything that could remotely be classed as contributing to global warming. We have yet to see what ecological thing they are doing with the money. Seroiusly though cows are responsible for a huge amount of methane, which definately does damage our atmosphere!

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Geoff wrote:

I agree, we really need to do something about those cows farting! they are totally disintegrating the greenhouse gasses and ruining our atmoshere - bfffp - not just cows. Sorry if you think I'm being synical, but I'm getting just a bit hacked off by our government jumping on the bandwagon and taxing anything that could remotely be classed as contributing to global warming. We have yet to see what ecological thing they are doing with the money. Seroiusly though cows are responsible for a huge amount of methane, which definately does damage our atmosphere!

Geoff

This is true.  Cattle and livestock give off a huge percentage of that kind of stuff.  Cattle survive in as large a population as ever because we need to sustain their populations for our own food.

Humans have gotten too good at survival for our own good.  We overpopulate the earth and it's no wonder we are having more and more problems.  Mother nature is going to take care of herself first and she always resorts to a balance.  Humans, with all their knowlege, have seemed to have upset that balance in the past few thousand years.

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ohiodawg13 wrote:

Getting in the green of things is as simple as next time you go to a Joe show hook up with some other fans and fill up just one vehicle, you know, car pool. Another starting point is replace your light bulbs with the new energy saver flourescent type. Or try putting your groceries in reuseable canvas bags when you shop. Try cutting the thermostat up or down, depending on the season, just two degrees and tough it out. These are just little things, but they start to add up. There's too many people everywhere still taking our energy sources for granted. It's time for all of us, at least those with a conscience to do their part no matter how small. These efforts also put money in your pocket.

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High five JDawg, a voice of reason and sanity!

Some other useful and easy things to do that have saved me loads of euros in recent years -

Make a habit of turning off unnecessary lights in other parts of the house. Use energy saving bulbs where possible.

Do not leave tv's and other electrical appliances on 'standby' overnight or when you're away. Push the button, turn it off.

Boil only as much water as you need. Don't fill an electric kettle to make one cup. When boiling vegetables you only need enough water to just cover the contents, don't fill the pan.

Save up your dishes and laundry until you can fill the machine to capacity.

Where applicable, ask yourself if you really need to use the car. Where possible, walk or cycle more.


If you apply these measures systematically in your household you will live greener, you will make less demands on diminishing energy resources, and you will SAVE MONEY!!

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