Re: 1977

Vette335 wrote:
Fretwork wrote:
Vette335 wrote:

I've heard Clapton is not the biggest KWS fan.

Where did you hear that?

a friend of a friend of a friend.

Being a Razorback fan, this past offseason has learned to reserve judgement on "friends of friends" and "sources." Nothing personal, though.

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Re: 1977

Deezer wrote:
FlyinLow wrote:

1977- I was thirteen, slugging it out in the basement with my Hondo LP copy and Fender Bandmaster. Jammin to Zeppelin, Nuge, Brownsville Station. Dad would come home from work and throw the breaker on my room, and tell me what a fool I was for wasting my energy on guitar. It was the first of 30 years of paying dues for nothing.

I've got to ask guys like Joe, KWS and John Mayer- What's it like to actually have parents that recognize you LOVE something and are good at it? To not impose their religious and other neuroses on their talented young ones?

Well, I know with KWS and Joe, their dads were heavily involved with music. Ken Shepherd was a promoter, and of course we all know what Joe's dad does. I'm lucky with my guitar playing, kind of the cool situation - parents let me do my thing, don't ask, they're just glad I'm not on drugs.

As far as John Mayer, I've said it once, and I've said a bunch. As far as lead playing, he's not the fast and blinding type, like Joe. His lead playing is pushed more by rhythm. He's like Stevie without all the fast licks. The thing I hear (especially when listening to Try! and Continuum) is TASTEFUL. He throws a lick in just the right place. A completely different animal than Joe.

I like Joe much better though, but John's a good one to listen to.

I gotta say- John Mayer's solo on Bold as Love off Continuum is one of the greatest solos I've ever heard

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Re: 1977

Deezer wrote:

Well, then we'd better talk about Doyle Bramhall II, then. Great songwriter? Check. Great singer? Check. Great guitarist? Check. Clapton loves him? Check. But, he's a bit older than those guys.

Hey Deezer, I dig Doyle I got into him when I picked up Been A Long Time by Double Trouble. Really dig Skyscraper that he plays on. I noticed when I watched the Crossroads 2005 DVD that Doyle's what I call a dyslexic player. He's one of those guitar players who plays left handed with the strings upside down. Coco Montoya does it the same way too. I've got an old buddy down in Dallas who plays like that because he just picked up a right handed guitar, turned it upside down and just figured it out that way. If you try to play with these guys it'll make you seasick watchin' em. Speakin' of that DT CD Groundhog Day is the best thing I've ever heard out of Jonny Lang.

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Re: 1977

Yeah, there were only right-handed guitars around when he was growing up. I always say he should be, considering who his dad is.

By the way, Green Light Girl is one of the most blistering rock songs ever.

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Re: 1977

Doyle is the real deal.  Innovative, great song writer, awesome player, great singer.  His Welcome and Jellycream album are both fantastic.

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Yeah I agree. I love everything he's done and I like that he has a unique style, maybe its because of playing upside down but he just sounds different to alot of guys and really focusses on making each note count rather than playing the same old blues licks all the time. But his songwriting and singing is what I love the most. smile

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Re: 1977

FOR DBII fans, I encourage everyone to check out the film "Before The Music Dies".  You can download it or buy the DVD @ beforethemusicdies.com .  Doyle is interviewed and there is some great footage of him playing Stevie Wonder's "Keep On Running", Eddie Harris' "Cold Duck Time" with Eric Clapton, a tune for the film with Erykah Badu and ?uestlove and an absolutely amazing, heart wrenching version of Curtis Mayfield's "Fool For You".

44 (edited by Fretwork 2007-07-19 21:37:15)

Re: 1977

Roy,
If you haven't already seen it, I would highly recommend Eric Clapton's "Sessions for Robert J" DVD/CD.  What Eric and Doyle II do to these Robert Johnson songs is beyond amazing.  They are both on fire in this one!

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Re: 1977

Vette335 wrote:

1977 birth year of Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Eric Gales, Joe Bonamassa, John Mayer.  Wonder why this year spawned so many great blues guitarists (3 anyways...)

I'd be willing to bet they weren't all actually born in 1977...

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Re: 1977

All-Original SG wrote:
Vette335 wrote:

1977 birth year of Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Eric Gales, Joe Bonamassa, John Mayer.  Wonder why this year spawned so many great blues guitarists (3 anyways...)

I'd be willing to bet they weren't all actually born in 1977...

Eric Gales was born in 1975 according to a couple sources I found.

Re: 1977

Lee wrote:
All-Original SG wrote:
Vette335 wrote:

1977 birth year of Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Eric Gales, Joe Bonamassa, John Mayer.  Wonder why this year spawned so many great blues guitarists (3 anyways...)

I'd be willing to bet they weren't all actually born in 1977...

Eric Gales was born in 1975 according to a couple sources I found.

Just got my first Eric Gales CD a little while back- just saw it in the store, knew I had heard the name somewhere and decided to get it- what a great guitar player!  He gets an amazing singing strat tone and has a pretty good voice too... not as good as Joe's though smile

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Re: 1977

BluesMan wrote:

When we saw Clapton during his one more car, one more rider tour, Bramhall II opened for him. He really performed some powerful music. I was not aware of him at that point. Since then, I've seen him on one of the high def channels performing live too. I've also read that Clapton called him from out of the blue after hearing his music and told him he was his favorite new guitarist (obviously, Clapton hadn't heard of Joe at that point). That must have been one sweet phone call for Doyle. I don't have any of his CDs, but based on some of the comments that you all made, I guess I should get my butt out to the store soon!

Roy

yeah, clapton got a copy of "jellycream" from Doyle's manager and said it was his favorite album of the 1990's along with D'angelo's "Voodoo".  He called Doyle on the spot and invited him to write and play on the Clapton/B.B. King album "Riding With The King" and Clapton's album "Reptile".  Since then, Doyle has toured/recorded with Clapton, Pink Floyd's Roger Waters, Susan Tedeschi, Me'Shell Ndegeocello, Sheryl Crow.

Also check out his album with charlie sexton and Double Trouble fom the band "Arc Angels"

Re: 1977

Vette335 wrote:

nope, to me John Mayer is among the best.  Like KWS, he is heavily influenced by Stevie Ray Vaughan, but his compositional skills are beyond compare.  His chord voicings, progressions and ideas are unique.  His approach to subtlety when playing gives him a soulfulness and maturity not seen by many other blues players of my generation.  He knows how to use rhythmic ideas and motifs to make a solo interesting as opposed to sheer speed.  Plus Clapton digs his playing and records with him.  I've heard Clapton is not the biggest KWS fan.

I think he gets a lot of that from being a child of the 80's...The Police, Paul Simon, etc. I think John Mayer has figured out its ok to be "influenced" by Stevie Ray Vaughan, but you'd better have enough other influences and personal style to make yourself unique.

I think Joe said - anyone who has ever picked up a stratocaster has been labeled an SRV clone. That's a tough label to break. Maybe that's Clapton's beef with KWS? Just guessing...

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Re: 1977

kwsjb1238 "I gotta say- John Mayer's solo on Bold as Love off Continuum is one of the greatest solos I've ever heard."


It could've been a better vocal though. I don't know - he did a better Wind Cries Mary in my opinion.

The perfect blues song to explain John Mayer is his song: "Who Did You Think I Was" - good guitar, and reflective lyrics. I could go for  a whole albums with songs like that.

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Re: 1977

NPB_EST.1979 wrote:

kwsjb1238 "I gotta say- John Mayer's solo on Bold as Love off Continuum is one of the greatest solos I've ever heard."


It could've been a better vocal though. I don't know - he did a better Wind Cries Mary in my opinion.

The perfect blues song to explain John Mayer is his song: "Who Did You Think I Was" - good guitar, and reflective lyrics. I could go for  a whole albums with songs like that.

I love who do you think I was.

John Mayer's tune "Vultures" is brilliant in my opinion.

I disagree with what Joe said.  I think anyone who plays a strat and plays SRV licks a;most exclusively (like chris duarte, kws, wes jeans) will be labeled an SRV clone.  In my opinion, Joe had a unique strat sound, especially with Bloodline.  My answer is if you like the feel of the guitar and you feel it can sucessfully help you to get your point across musically, you should use it.  And if what you have to say is truly from the heart, it should sound like you.

Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Robert Cray, Jimmie Vaughan, Bonnie Raitt, Buddy Guy, Eric Johnson all have a unique style even though they all play blues on a strat. The very same guitar!  Its about crafting your own tone and sound more than the guitar.

Re: 1977

Vette335 wrote:
NPB_EST.1979 wrote:

kwsjb1238 "I gotta say- John Mayer's solo on Bold as Love off Continuum is one of the greatest solos I've ever heard."


It could've been a better vocal though. I don't know - he did a better Wind Cries Mary in my opinion.

The perfect blues song to explain John Mayer is his song: "Who Did You Think I Was" - good guitar, and reflective lyrics. I could go for  a whole albums with songs like that.

I love who do you think I was.

John Mayer's tune "Vultures" is brilliant in my opinion.

I disagree with what Joe said.  I think anyone who plays a strat and plays SRV licks a;most exclusively (like chris duarte, kws, wes jeans) will be labeled an SRV clone.  In my opinion, Joe had a unique strat sound, especially with Bloodline.  My answer is if you like the feel of the guitar and you feel it can sucessfully help you to get your point across musically, you should use it.  And if what you have to say is truly from the heart, it should sound like you.

Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Robert Cray, Jimmie Vaughan, Bonnie Raitt, Buddy Guy, Eric Johnson all have a unique style even though they all play blues on a strat. The very same guitar!  Its about crafting your own tone and sound more than the guitar.

I would definitely question you on how Eric Johnson could be considered blues, but that's just nitpicking, so whatever. lol

I'm not as familiar with Wes Jeans's stuff, so I'm not qualified to give an opinion on his stuff (not that I'm necessarily qualified to give any opinion lol) but with Chris, he really seems to go for the funky side of Stevie's style, while Kenny goes more for the rock side. But what I like about them is how they've taken that style, and kinda added other stuff to it. You hear a lot of harder-edged stuff from Kenny and also the occaisional use of a resonator (Aberdeen, Was, Every Time It Rains) and more of a southern rock style. Chris has gone off into doing some drum beats and a very Chili Peppers feel to a lot of his songs. He has also has very off-beat style of songs (Last Night off Romp comes to mind). To me, where it ends with the Stevie connection is the guitar stylings. Songwise, they actually do very different stuff than Stevie did, but yes, they have the Strat tone running through a Fender or Marshall amp. To me, that sound is definitely not contained to just Stevie. I play through a couple of Strats through a Fender amp (in addition to my lover, my Ibanez Artcore semihollowbody, but whatever). Can I get a semi-Stevie tone? Yes. But do I sound like Stevie. I hear a little bit, but not enough to make me a Stevie clone. What made Stevie's sound more than the guitar tone and his style of playing was the songs that he played. Left to shuffles, he'd have been a Lonnie Mack/Albert Collins/Freddie King clone. Left to slow blues, he would've been an Albert King clone. Left to more rock stuff, he would've been a Hendrix clone. But it was his combination of all those styles (from Pride And Joy to Texas Flood to Couldn't Stand The Weather) and songs in those styles that defined him. That is the way it should be with guys like Kenny and Chris Duarte. Joe is the same way. As great a guitar player as Joe is, I wouldn't have given him one bit of attention after the first listen if the songs themselves had not been good songs.

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Re: 1977

SRV was a great "amalgamator" of the music that came before him plus adding his own personality to the mix.

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54 (edited by NPB_EST.1979 2007-07-20 11:16:36)

Re: 1977

Jess wrote:

SRV was a great "amalgamator" of the music that came before him plus adding his own personality to the mix.

I'd like to think that about myself, lol.

Im sure if you asked a lot of guitar players, that's the impression they would have on themselves. Being a critic makes it so easy to label people, also our minds want to make a connection to something or someone we already know.

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