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Pearl wrote:

And to the member who says the only people on jbxp now are either sad or mad- how fortunate you are that God blessed you with the ability to read the minds and hearts of total strangers. Pompous ****.

I guess I should have been more succinct so you wouldn't have taken this out of context Pearl. I referenced sad or mad because JBXP has been down so much lately. I'm sorry you too feel the need to lash out over here where so many fans are regular readers, if not posters, most of whom are not old timers in the Joe world, including me. Posts like those today are what separate a few JBXP users from the orderly world of the forum IMHO.

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20 (edited by Jane H. 2012-07-03 11:58:28)

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sorry you read what i said that way Pearl.  I didn't mean it the way I am interpreting how you interpreted that. My main thing was mostly related to the street team. I do not expect anything from Joe or J&R and hope i have gotten that across. Fact is with JBXP, it DID create a big divide in what I (won't speak for anyone else) perceived as the street team. Not that i think the street team was completely coherent at any point but some of us did go to efforts to communicate to new folks or not so new that didn't get any official reply and sharing things we were confident were desired of street team when there would be long lapses in any official comments in a place that could be referred to and when questions were left unanswered. I don't know what task jbxp admins were given or any sort of briefing about the existing community. Being completely ignored and or turned away by them when trying to communicate, well it caused some angst and confusion, with the admins etc not other fans except those who did not like to hear anything negative about jbxp.
My comments were not about not getting along with other fans but i do think the actions of the jbxp admins made a us vs them thing. I may not have been successful but I did make efforts to try to make it ALL work better. not sure what is pompous about that
i did not want a line between old and new fans, jbxp admins made it that way IMHO

21 (edited by Jane H. 2012-07-03 11:08:16)

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and i recognize that many do not feel comfortable here. I have asked many for details on that so we can try to be more welcoming. I have not gotten alot of feedback but much of it, and from my own experience is exactly because its easy to misinterpret folks here. Some you just gotta ignore but many of us do try to make it welcoming.
Its OK to have another place, alot of us have said that all along. it just was not a straightforward type of thing, jbxp, IMO

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also i would like to say that when i say i hope more resources don't go to jbxp is that I hope the amount of time effort and money that went into jbxp could be directed to ensuring the all the links and newsletter items and things they do ask of us on the street team to do, work correctly. not that i feel i deserve anything. I think Joe deserves it.

with jbxp it seems more of a thing that the fans enjoyed to be able to share in their own way with each other. that is cool. we do that here too but mostly off site etc after we get to know one another here.
jbxp apparently was more of a marketing type of thing ( i don't know otherwise - i asked many times and was not answered or told otherwise). I do feel bad for those who got accustomed to it and the gift it was for them. i try to give regular thanks for this place and refer to it as a gift. no expectations. Thanks Joe, and J&R....

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Pearl wrote:
RickB wrote:
Pearl wrote:

And to the member who says the only people on jbxp now are either sad or mad- how fortunate you are that God blessed you with the ability to read the minds and hearts of total strangers. Pompous ****.

I guess I should have been more succinct so you wouldn't have taken this out of context Pearl. I referenced sad or mad because JBXP has been down so much lately. I'm sorry you too feel the need to lash out over here where so many fans are regular readers, if not posters, most of whom are not old timers in the Joe world, including me. Posts like those today are what separate a few JBXP users from the orderly world of the forum IMHO.

There you go again always trying to divide people into "with the forum" or not and your condescending attitude toward the "nots". Please don't categorize me as a jbxp user- I haven't participated there in a long, long time and don't care what happens to it.  Most of the people I know who are Joe fans frequent the Bonanation fb page- not this forum or jbxp-  it's a closed group and crazies who come there are quickly removed from the group ( can you spell Anna from Germany?), you have the advantage of being able to block people on fb if you aren't interested in their posts and overall it has been a far more welcoming, enjoyable place to get    Joe news and promote Joe. Of course, it wasn't always to your liking on BN but I think you realized recently you are probably better off sticking with the forum.

Wow! You just made my point. big_smile Take a Chill Pill Donna.

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Frankly JBXP sucks, not the people on there, just the site itself... I tried a while ago to join, but it was so much easier to fit in here... I really love it here... Wouldn't change a thing!! I just think JBXP is impersonal... This forum exemplifies the easy of communication, and Joe's fans can categorise what they want to discuss... JBXP is just an irrelevant pile of jabber..

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i think this is the best place by far for information; jbxp, joe's facebook, bonamassa live facebook page and indeed joe's own website are largely a waste of space

this is the place were seriously informed people get to learn about tours tickets and the like which is really important. nowhere else does- the recent concert announcements for joe's 4 dates in london were first obtained by me right here-if i had relied on anywhere else i'd have been left standing

so this is the only place-hang around jbxp etc all you like but expect to be sat in row z come concert time!

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I should have previewed my post!-i should have explained better that i think this is the best place to be for touring and ticket  information. Had i not been aware of this forum then i probably would have struggled to get decent  tickets for Joe's upcoming London shows

Facebook were slow to announce specifics on the ticket sale as was JBXP and Joe's site. I've seen Joe on numerous occasions and yes i have had good seats without recourse  to the forum but re the forthcoming London shows nowhere beat this place

As for the rest i like the facebook stuff-i always check it out daily-never really got into Jbxp

I don't see any snobbery here i must say - i do see a lot of people that are friendly to each other because they've been posting stuff for years and they are welcoming to new people

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Pearl wrote:

One of the reasons you don't see more people here who have abandoned jbxp is the mentality here that if you are a newer fan, you're somehow not entitled.

Now who's trying to read minds? I've been here a little over a year, and have not encountered this "mentality" you claim to discern among the long-time denizens.  If anything, exactly the opposite has been the case, as those long-time members have gone out of their way to be friendly, welcoming, and supportive...

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Coach305 wrote:
Pearl wrote:

One of the reasons you don't see more people here who have abandoned jbxp is the mentality here that if you are a newer fan, you're somehow not entitled.

Now who's trying to read minds? I've been here a little over a year, and have not encountered this "mentality" you claim to discern among the long-time denizens.  If anything, exactly the opposite has been the case, as those long-time members have gone out of their way to be friendly, welcoming, and supportive...

Thank you for that Coach. We certainly try to be open and welcoming to all - and always have been - before XP, during XP, and even post XP, should that occur. One thing is for sure, the forum ain't goin' nowhere! wink

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Coach305 wrote:

If anything, exactly the opposite has been the case, as those long-time members have gone out of their way to be friendly, welcoming, and supportive...

Yeah, I second that statement 100 percent. I'm actually having a little trouble making sense of this thread, but what I know for sure is that I'm new here and have been made to feel quite welcome.

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Rick Beck- since I had you blocked on facebook, I wasn't aware that you went there yesterday to copy and paste  Ghostrider's comments from this forum to the Bonanation fb page along with your commentary about me. Who does crap like that? Only you, Rick- since you're the self- appointed judge and holy father of not only the forum but jbxp and fb- always trying to tell people what they can or can't post and offering up your narrow- minded opinions that no one is interested in. I picked up on you very early on- it's not about Joe or his music with you- it's all about YOU! What you think, what you want to see on fb and jbxp, how wonderful and smart and superior in every  respect YOU think you are compared to the rest of us mere mortals. Your bs has gotten old and you're mostly ignored now- that's why so many have blocked you on fb. You just can't stand seeing people enjoy something that's not about YOU. Guess I'll have to leave you unblocked since you're probably going to keep up your cheap shots and low blows. You're a grumpy old man and this forum suits you to a T.

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Pearl wrote:

That certain snobbery or whatever you want to call it towards people who are newer Joe fans comes across pretty strong here. It seems like an old guys club.

err, I think that you are wrong on that one, - I only came across Joe around the time of Albert Hall, - and since then have found nothing but welcome from the "old guys".

I have worked in social media and would normally encourage the use of more modern interactive mediums such as JBXP over these very old out dated forums, - but this forum is NOT about the technology, it is about the community. - I for one have a clear comparison with JBXP and this forum and I can honestly say that my experience has been 100% better over here, - as I said earlier I just felt it contained too much fluff, which I can only assume because it was not regulated properly. It came across more about self promotion that JB promotion.

Anyway must dash, I am off to meet some friends that I have met as a result of the forum at Govt Mule, - just had a text to say that those "old guys" will try to hold a space for my young son so that he can see. You meet the nicest people on a JB forum! smile

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Is there a popcorn eating emoticon anywhere on here?  Really enjoying this smile

33 (edited by RickB 2012-07-04 12:30:30)

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Yank! lol
Nothing like fireworks on the 4th of July!

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I'm behind you Rick lol

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I find it interesting that so many "new" fans find this place very welcoming and friendly, but there are a few that seem to really dislike the forum and it's "old" members. IMO, you bring your personality, positive or negative, with you wherever you go. I have very strong feelings for the forum and its members.
I have seen kindnesses performed here that seem out of place for a fan forum. I have seen outpourings of caring and sympathy for members that are/were going through difficult times. This place is what you make it. It welcomes ALL fans, whether they discovered Joe yesterday or 10 years ago.

"Rock ON & Keep the Faith"

36 (edited by Pearl 2012-07-05 10:32:24)

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Whoever you are on this forum- you should know that the self- appointed ruler of the forum Rick Beck takes posts from this forum that he disagrees with and copies and pastes them to the Bonanation fb page. Why would anyone do that? Only one reason- to try to slam and slur people HE doesn't like or agree with. Yeah- real friendly and welcoming, huh? Joe's fans know this forum is here and most are familiar with fb and if they want something posted to fb , they will do it themselves. What a sleaze bag. Rick's only interested in making himself look good at the expense of other people. He's not about Joe.