Topic: Fake Gibson

OK, I'm going to post this but I'm not saying I agree with it.  I found this website and looked into it and it seems real.  I found it by mistake.  I was looking up GFS pickup demos on Youtube and I found this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBxpzlbqo-4

I thought whow these guys must like their GFS pickups, then I realized they were playing fake China made Gibsons.  So thats when I read the comments and someone said to buy these guitar go to this website or something like that.  http://www.dhgate.com/

These guys are selling the site as Whole Sale products made in China cutting out the middle man.  They operate kind of like Ebay.  Seller can use the site to sell their products on there and they are the ones responable for sending items such as guitar but not limited to just guitar. 

I looked into it deeper and I will say that guitar or products that are not name brand are real legitamet items, but if your looking at a $3000 gibson and find the guitar on here for less then $300 you need to know its not real.  Some guys will openly say its a copy others don't.  If you decide to buy one don't try to sell it here in america because they are highly illigal and your going to go to jail.  If you buy one and have it your fine police will not come after you.  These items are lower quality but a lot of these guitar are pretty nice.  Not as nice as a Custom Shop like they are copping but Much better then a Epiphone that would cost more.

What I think is cool is the guitars can perform and with some mods could sound as good as a real Gibson.  What I don't think is cool is they say Gibson on the head stock and from 10 to 20 feet I doubt you could tell a difference.  Last what really pisses me off is it clearly is stamped Made In the USA!  Yet I'm not going to lie to you I'm considering buying one.  I do project guitar all the time and as long as I am not trying to sell this to make a profit I'm fine with owning one.  I've owned Made in China guitar before so no big deal.  I just hate that they are using the name brand and the made in america stamping.  I wish they had named it something else and just kept the head stock shape.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R2r4Um2BxI notice the song in the back ground
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8vKzJv0Iho

Reviews are positive.  With a little bit of work you can have a great playing guitar that sounds fantastic if you replace a few things and can live with selling out to China.  BTW most of us if not all of us already have and didn't even know it.

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Be aware that US Customs knows about these. If you order and pay, and they sieze it. You are out the $ with no recourse. Buying on the cheap is one thing, knowingly breaking the law is another. If something other than what is represented shows up, good luck on getting satisfaction. I see this type of thing in the paper here all the time as counterfeiters try and bring stuff across the Mexican border. The stuff is seized and the importers go to jail. One or a hundred it is still illegal importation.
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I also want to point out that they have some very nice looking NON copy guitar that are inspired by original guitars that I see nothing illegal about.

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This was brought up over a year ago, I remember the tradetang website somewhere in the mix. I'm sure all of us would be curious to actually try one of these, myself included. However, I'd be too leery to buy one so I'd rather just be curious and leave it at that! Legality aside, I wouldn't feel comfortable ordering from an unknown person or company in China knowing full well if the guitar sucked, I'd be out the cash -plain and simple.

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I wouldn't want to have anything to do with those strictly out of principle.

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The irony is that TradeTang had very prominent ads on Google about a year ago.  Almost every guitar site or forum I visited had a TradeTang ad pop up advertising 'Gibsons for $200' etc.  Even on some Gibson specific sites.

I thought it was crazy that one iconic US company (Google) was actively taking money to promote ads for a Chinese company that was actively and blatantly ripping off another iconic US company (Gibson/Fender et al).

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Have you seen the quality of some Epiphones coming out of China?! Practically the same things.
It was only Gibson moving a plant to China to churn out cheap tat that gave the country carte blanche to learn everything from these guitars.
I would never buy one of these guitars, but nor am I on the side of Henry Juszkiewicz...who treats the Gibson customer base with a patronising, out-of-touch and greedy fat hand.
More fool you if you were to buy a new Custom, a robot guitar etc - you're in exactly the same boat as buying a copy, but at the other end of the scale.

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I would rather spend some more money and get an Epiphone than get one of these.  At least with an Epiphone you know that they are legit.  And Epiphone is closer to a Gibson than these will ever be!  I own 2 Epi's including the JB model, and these guitars are fantastic!  The quilted Epi I have even says Gibson on the truss rod cover. Love my Epiphones.

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I agree, a totally different Kettle of fish, but Epi is owned by and part of Gibson, hell the boxes and tape they come in are Gibson.
On a slightly different topic how do Vintage get away with their MRJBM? The most blatant copy I would have thought?

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PSmith1946 wrote:

I agree, a totally different Kettle of fish, but Epi is owned by and part of Gibson, hell the boxes and tape they come in are Gibson.
On a slightly different topic how do Vintage get away with their MRJBM? The most blatant copy I would have thought?

I guess it's hard to copyright a colour scheme and mismatched knobs.

11 (edited by NPB_EST.1979 2012-03-16 11:35:47)

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Devan wrote:

The irony is that TradeTang had very prominent ads on Google about a year ago.  Almost every guitar site or forum I visited had a TradeTang ad pop up advertising 'Gibsons for $200' etc.  Even on some Gibson specific sites.

I thought it was crazy that one iconic US company (Google) was actively taking money to promote ads for a Chinese company that was actively and blatantly ripping off another iconic US company (Gibson/Fender et al).

I was looking at a Trini Lopez copy on trade tang, but I see the "cut" on the body shape and other things on their Les pauls like the open book shaped headstock and to some extent the body shapes them... and they are different enough to where they really don't look real to me. I'd rather pay a little more and get an Epiphone. No shame in the label on the headstock.

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After much consideration I've decided not to buy anything.  I think the guitar will make it here and I think Customs might have a chance at getting the seller dumb enough to put Gibson Guitar on the package label or discription but most of those guys are slick enough not to show the made in the usa or Gibson on the head stock.  There are just too many Youtube video's of these guitars for the Feds to catch them often.  My issue is totally the head stock and the fact they say Made In the USA.  I work at a factory where we do Injection molding for Fiber optic connectors and up until recently 100% of our work force was in the USA.  It felt like I got my guts pulled out when they told us we would still be doing most of our work on a product like in america but half of our parts inventory would be shipped to costa rica for deflash and post processing, then returned to the states so we could inspect and sell them.  I might be king of cheap but I've got a little more pride in my country then to buy something so dishonest.  Long Live Gibson and Made In America.

13 (edited by NPB_EST.1979 2012-03-19 08:59:48)

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Look, if you wanna do it "right" and you can't afford a real Gibson, you can do this:
http://bulldogbodies.com/

http://byoguitar.com/

http://www.guitarfetish.com/Guitar-And- … _c_74.html

at least you'll have the pride that your own blood and sweat are all over it. Still made in the USA (if you're from here wink )
And if you REALLY wanted a nice headstock overlay with real Gibson inlay... eBay has a ton of them. cool
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=hea … 86.c0.m359

just my two cents.

- Nic from Detroit... posting on JB's Forum since 6-2-2006
Ask me about my handwound Great Lakes Guitar Pickups
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Necks look pretty good, minus the binding overlaying the frets, otherwise might be fun to give one a try.