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Sandy Girl wrote:
ahsmith33 wrote:

That is great to hear Brack, glad she made it through. That is one reality of southern US hospitality, if you're in a pickle almost anyone will give you the sleeveless checkered fishing shirt or the tank top right off their back. lol

Tres



Happy to hear your Southern Belle is okay Brack!!  I know you are relieved!

Tres, you are so right about Southern hospitality ... living in the South is so lovely ... I was reminded of this at an outdoor Jazz & R&B Festival a couple of weeks ago ...  everyone flashes you a big GENUINE smile and we have long conversations with total strangers and find it normal   wink   ...  Southern hospitality is beautiful to behold and it is especially beautiful in times of trouble or disaster...

The Other Southern Belle

Oh really!! thanks Sandy  smile

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Curby wrote:

Yesterday my Son's golf team played their city rival across the Ohio River in Henderson, Kentucky.  It was the first time in awhile we'd been over the bridge and I've never in my 40+ years seen the river so high.  This morning I read where the Army Corps of Engineers are dynamiting levees near the confluence of the Mississippi and Ohio rivers to ease swelling.  Here's an excerpt of the news....

WYATT, Mo. (AP) — The dramatic, late-night demolition of a huge earthen levee sent chocolate-colored floodwaters pouring onto thousands of acres of Missouri farmland Tuesday, easing the threat to a tiny Illinois town being menaced by the Mississippi River.

But the blast near Cairo, Ill., did nothing to ease the risk of more trouble downstream, where the mighty river is expected to rise to its highest levels since the 1920s in some parts of Tennessee, Mississippi and Louisiana.

"We're making a lot of unfortunate history here in Mississippi in April and May," said Jeff Rent, a spokesman for the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency. "We had the historic tornados, and now this could be a historic event."

The Army Corps of Engineers was considering making similar use of other "floodways" — enormous basins surrounded by giant levees that can be opened to divert floodwaters.

A staccato series of explosions lit up the night sky Monday over the Mississippi with orange flashes and opened a massive hole in the Birds Point levee. A wall of water up to 15 feet high swiftly filled corn, soybean and wheat fields in southeast Missouri.

Upstream at Cairo, which sits precariously at the confluence of the swollen Mississippi and Ohio rivers, preliminary readings suggested the explosion worked.

But across the river, clearing skies gave a heartbreaking view of the inundation triggered by the demolition. The torrent swamped an estimated 200 square miles, washing away crop prospects for this year and damaging or destroying as many as 100 homes.



Living in Louisiana and being well acquainted with (via reading & hearing stories from my parents, who were just children) the 1927 Mississippi River flood, I am always following this story Curby.  I started being concerned back in the winter with the massive snowfalls and anticipating the spring runoff but these recent storms magnify it to the extent they are saying it will be worse than the 1927 flood, when parts of southern Louisiana were sacrificed to save New Orleans.  My grandfather (long deceased) was in the National Guard and late in his life was having flashbacks to walking the levees in New Orleans during this epic flood and sandbagging to try to prevent the flooding.

The land on the West side of the Mississippi (Arkansas, Louisiana) is so flat (cotton, soybean, etc. farming) that flooding downstream from Cairo & Missouri will also affect not only the farmlands but likely will reach towns and cities a great distance from the river (where I have family --- I live on the West side of Louisiana and there are some hills in between so not sure how/if we will be affected).  There will surely be a lot more destruction & loss in our near future.

If there are other history readers on the forum, the book Rising Tide by John Barry is a very interesting account of the 1927 flood.  It looks at the wisdom of the levee systems and how they will hold up for the future in addition to recounting the flood and putting it all in historical context.

Oh, meant to ask, Curby, how did your son's golf tournament go?

Sandy

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Somewhat anecdotal, but when my granddad came west from Missouri, it's told he looked around before deciding where to build a home. San Diego is mostly desert but he saw the ravines and said, "It don't rain much but when it does it rains a lot, we're building on high ground." He lived through that famous flood. Hopes and prayers for those who stand to be flooded again. One of my co-workers has family that just got through the floods in the Dakotas.
Rick

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Hi Sandy,

Thanks for asking about the boy and his team (Evansville North).  It was a big match because their opponent (Evansville Memorial) is the 4th ranked team in Indiana and they've beaten us the last two years in head to head matches.   My son finished two over par and his team won by five shots.  What's cool is that's their first match loss in over two years.  An alumni of our school was a member of last year's Ryder Cup and our school has finished 2nd in the last two State Tournaments.  Do I sound like a proud Papa?  VBG!

As to the flooding, it's extremely bad around the Ohio, but our city has seen much worse.  Our bad one was in 1937 when the river was 14 feet higher that the present level.  I hope Louisiana and Mississippi can avoid another disaster because they've suffered greatly.



Sandy Girl wrote:
Curby wrote:

Yesterday my Son's golf team played their city rival across the Ohio River in Henderson, Kentucky.  It was the first time in awhile we'd been over the bridge and I've never in my 40+ years seen the river so high.  This morning I read where the Army Corps of Engineers are dynamiting levees near the confluence of the Mississippi and Ohio rivers to ease swelling.  Here's an excerpt of the news....

WYATT, Mo. (AP) — The dramatic, late-night demolition of a huge earthen levee sent chocolate-colored floodwaters pouring onto thousands of acres of Missouri farmland Tuesday, easing the threat to a tiny Illinois town being menaced by the Mississippi River.

But the blast near Cairo, Ill., did nothing to ease the risk of more trouble downstream, where the mighty river is expected to rise to its highest levels since the 1920s in some parts of Tennessee, Mississippi and Louisiana.

"We're making a lot of unfortunate history here in Mississippi in April and May," said Jeff Rent, a spokesman for the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency. "We had the historic tornados, and now this could be a historic event."

The Army Corps of Engineers was considering making similar use of other "floodways" — enormous basins surrounded by giant levees that can be opened to divert floodwaters.

A staccato series of explosions lit up the night sky Monday over the Mississippi with orange flashes and opened a massive hole in the Birds Point levee. A wall of water up to 15 feet high swiftly filled corn, soybean and wheat fields in southeast Missouri.

Upstream at Cairo, which sits precariously at the confluence of the swollen Mississippi and Ohio rivers, preliminary readings suggested the explosion worked.

But across the river, clearing skies gave a heartbreaking view of the inundation triggered by the demolition. The torrent swamped an estimated 200 square miles, washing away crop prospects for this year and damaging or destroying as many as 100 homes.



Living in Louisiana and being well acquainted with (via reading & hearing stories from my parents, who were just children) the 1927 Mississippi River flood, I am always following this story Curby.  I started being concerned back in the winter with the massive snowfalls and anticipating the spring runoff but these recent storms magnify it to the extent they are saying it will be worse than the 1927 flood, when parts of southern Louisiana were sacrificed to save New Orleans.  My grandfather (long deceased) was in the National Guard and late in his life was having flashbacks to walking the levees in New Orleans during this epic flood and sandbagging to try to prevent the flooding.

The land on the West side of the Mississippi (Arkansas, Louisiana) is so flat (cotton, soybean, etc. farming) that flooding downstream from Cairo & Missouri will also affect not only the farmlands but likely will reach towns and cities a great distance from the river (where I have family --- I live on the West side of Louisiana and there are some hills in between so not sure how/if we will be affected).  There will surely be a lot more destruction & loss in our near future.

If there are other history readers on the forum, the book Rising Tide by John Barry is a very interesting account of the 1927 flood.  It looks at the wisdom of the levee systems and how they will hold up for the future in addition to recounting the flood and putting it all in historical context.

Oh, meant to ask, Curby, how did your son's golf tournament go?

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Congrats on the fine golfer you raised Curby. Keep the sandbags ready.
Rick

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Wonderful Curby, I know you are proud of your son!

Hey, our governor, Bobby Jindal, is out touring the levees in a helicopter and assures us they are going to do whatever it takes to protect the people & property of Louisiana ... Corps of Engineers assures the levees will hold ... I am going to sleep much better tonight!   wink   Keep your eyes open Curby!

Sandy

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43 (edited by Rockfarmer 2011-05-10 18:45:52)

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As of today, the crest of the Mississippi is at, or just past Memphis, heading south.  Current flow rates on the River are estiamted at 1.36 million cubic feet per second north of Baton Rouge in an area known as Morganza.  There is a spillway there with locks that can be opened to divert water into the Achafalaya Basin in order to avert flooding in Baton Rouge and other communities south on the river  The downside is that opening these locks will flood about 3 million acres in the Basin.  While sparsley populated, mostly with hunting and fishing camps, those folks will have significant damage to their property.  It's a no win proposition.  These gates have not been opened since 1973.  The trigger point is when the flow reaches 1.5 million cubic feet/second (that's 673,245,000 gallons per minute for anyone interested) which is expected to occur sometime between this coming Saturday and Tuesday.  There is also a spillway just north of New Orleans called the Bonnet Carre spillway that the Army Corps of Engineers has started opening today to divert water into and through Lake Pontchetrain and then into the Gulf of Mexico

Simply unprecedented amounts of water.

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I'm praying now for my niece and her family in Baton Rouge, and everyone else in the path of this mighty surge.
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Thanks for the updates Rockfarmer, we've been watching closely ... lots of Memphis flooding pics on the news ... hoping the Morganza & Bonnet Carre do their jobs, but many will still suffer ... Rick keep us posted about your niece.  We're watching for our dialysis clinics that will undoubtedly be affected by the flooding, on the LA side of the Mississippi; frantically making alternate arrangements for all the patients!

Sandy

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We're watching close as well.  My youngest daughter attends LSU and has an appartment not far from campus.  Already told her to move couch/TV, etc that she can to her upstairs bedroom as a precaution (which she probably won't do) but advice given to her anyway.

Local Baton Rouge Newspaper website has pretty good coverage that I'm following:   www.2theadvocate.com

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An odd thing happened yesterday.... coincidence ?

Spain earthquake: Rome earthquake rumour sparks mass exodus
As the earthquake hit Spain, one in five residents of Rome stayed off work and children were kept out of school over earthquake fears following a 1915 prediction by seismologist Raffaele Bendandi that "the big one" would strike on May 11, 2011.

Thousands of Romans fled the city and shops were shuttered over quake fears, despite officials insisting they cannot be predicted and special programmes running on Italian state TV calling for calm.
"I'm going to tell the boss I've got a medical appointment and take the day off," said barman Fabio Mengarelli. "If I have to die, I want to die with my wife and kids, and masses of people will do the same as me."

Over 20 tremors did strike Italy on Wednesday, but it was in Spain, around 800 miles to the west, that a devastating quake struck.
Bendandi is said to have predicted several earthquakes which hit Italy during the last hundred years before his death in 1979 and the panic on Wednesday was fanned by Facebook, Twitter and text messages.

Bendandi believed movement of plates and therefore earthquakes were the result of the combined movements of the planets, the moon and the sun and perfectly predictable.

Source: The Telegraph

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Rockfarmer wrote:

We're watching close as well.  My youngest daughter attends LSU and has an appartment not far from campus.  Already told her to move couch/TV, etc that she can to her upstairs bedroom as a precaution (which she probably won't do) but advice given to her anyway.

Local Baton Rouge Newspaper website has pretty good coverage that I'm following:   www.2theadvocate.com


Hey Rockfarmer, did you hear about the incident on LSU campus yesterday regarding flag burning?

Also, saw a pic from a friend of I-20 crossing Miss River into Vicksburg yesterday or today, the water is almost to the top of the bridge ... very scary!! sad

Sandy

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Brack wrote:

An odd thing happened yesterday.... coincidence ?

Spain earthquake: Rome earthquake rumour sparks mass exodus
As the earthquake hit Spain, one in five residents of Rome stayed off work and children were kept out of school over earthquake fears following a 1915 prediction by seismologist Raffaele Bendandi that "the big one" would strike on May 11, 2011.

Thousands of Romans fled the city and shops were shuttered over quake fears, despite officials insisting they cannot be predicted and special programmes running on Italian state TV calling for calm.
"I'm going to tell the boss I've got a medical appointment and take the day off," said barman Fabio Mengarelli. "If I have to die, I want to die with my wife and kids, and masses of people will do the same as me."

Over 20 tremors did strike Italy on Wednesday, but it was in Spain, around 800 miles to the west, that a devastating quake struck.
Bendandi is said to have predicted several earthquakes which hit Italy during the last hundred years before his death in 1979 and the panic on Wednesday was fanned by Facebook, Twitter and text messages.

Bendandi believed movement of plates and therefore earthquakes were the result of the combined movements of the planets, the moon and the sun and perfectly predictable.

Source: The Telegraph


..coincidence?... interesting!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY-roYPKWIE  hmm

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Pete The Cabby wrote:
Brack wrote:

An odd thing happened yesterday.... coincidence ?

Spain earthquake: Rome earthquake rumour sparks mass exodus
As the earthquake hit Spain, one in five residents of Rome stayed off work and children were kept out of school over earthquake fears following a 1915 prediction by seismologist Raffaele Bendandi that "the big one" would strike on May 11, 2011.

Thousands of Romans fled the city and shops were shuttered over quake fears, despite officials insisting they cannot be predicted and special programmes running on Italian state TV calling for calm.
"I'm going to tell the boss I've got a medical appointment and take the day off," said barman Fabio Mengarelli. "If I have to die, I want to die with my wife and kids, and masses of people will do the same as me."

Over 20 tremors did strike Italy on Wednesday, but it was in Spain, around 800 miles to the west, that a devastating quake struck.
Bendandi is said to have predicted several earthquakes which hit Italy during the last hundred years before his death in 1979 and the panic on Wednesday was fanned by Facebook, Twitter and text messages.

Bendandi believed movement of plates and therefore earthquakes were the result of the combined movements of the planets, the moon and the sun and perfectly predictable.

Source: The Telegraph


..coincidence?... interesting!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY-roYPKWIE  hmm

I try to keep an open mind ..... remember, we live on this big old rock which is spinning and is constantly moving, It's mother nature, $hit is going to happen - there is no bigger force - go with the flow...  smile

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Sandy Girl wrote:
Rockfarmer wrote:

We're watching close as well.  My youngest daughter attends LSU and has an appartment not far from campus.  Already told her to move couch/TV, etc that she can to her upstairs bedroom as a precaution (which she probably won't do) but advice given to her anyway.

Local Baton Rouge Newspaper website has pretty good coverage that I'm following:   www.2theadvocate.com


Hey Rockfarmer, did you hear about the incident on LSU campus yesterday regarding flag burning?

Also, saw a pic from a friend of I-20 crossing Miss River into Vicksburg yesterday or today, the water is almost to the top of the bridge ... very scary!! sad


I did hear about it Sandy.  My daughter called me and told me about it.  I'm proud of the way the student body reacted.  It does my heart good to know that there is still patriatism among the youth.

As to the River, there was spilliage over the Morganza gates.  They'll probably open them either today or tomorrow.  My heart goes out to the folks in the Achafalaya basin that have to evacuate and are going to have their property flooded.

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Brack wrote:

I try to keep an open mind ..... remember, we live on this big old rock which is spinning and is constantly moving, It's mother nature, $hit is going to happen - there is no bigger force - go with the flow...  smile


I was reading recently about the Eurasian plate moving below the African plate, creating a new subduction zone and predicting increase in seismic activity in the Med ... check this out:

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-04-eur … frica.html

Sandy

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Rockfarmer wrote:

I did hear about it Sandy.  My daughter called me and told me about it.  I'm proud of the way the student body reacted.  It does my heart good to know that there is still patriatism among the youth.

As to the River, there was spilliage over the Morganza gates.  They'll probably open them either today or tomorrow.  My heart goes out to the folks in the Achafalaya basin that have to evacuate and are going to have their property flooded.


I also thought it was a pretty awesome display RF.

All eyes on the Morganza!

Sandy

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First gate of the Morganza Spillway opened today.  One to two more to be opened tomorrow.

Each gate allows about 10,000 cubic feet per second or about 75,000 gallons per second to flow into the spillway.

Fairly impressive video on the opening of the gate:
http://www.wafb.com/story/14645519/army … dway-today