Re: Help me decide on the best distortion pedal
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Orginal post is for Distortion Pedal help.
Orginal post is for Distortion Pedal help.
I'm not really sure this thread neads policing... Let's not turn this place into The Gear Page please . The OP mentioned the Okko Diablo pedal which is a very mild, compressed, Dumble sounding pedal that IMO is more an overdrive than distortion. Besides, where do you really draw the line between overdrives, distortions, clean boosts, fuzzes, preamps, etc?
I own a Blues Driver and believe you me, that thing can put out some wicked amounts of gain. Regarding the Fulltone stuff... When I find a better pedal for low volume Joe Bonamassa tones into a clean platform than the Fulldrive 2, I'll be the first to sing it's praises on here. All I try to do is share my <limited> gear experience. Not owning or trying every flavor-of-the-week boutique pedal does not = not knowing good tone... try hearing some of the god awful demos of guys playing their $4000 pedalboards into their $5000 amp setups.
My 2 cents.
BTW t92780 I love your youtube stuff. You do some of the best Jeff Beck inspired riffing I've heard. I totally envy your Strat collection too.
Ugh- I couldn't sell my Fulldrive II fast enough. I could only get it to work as a stacked pedal with a HBE power screamer but once I heard the Xotic pedals I ditched everything else.
Mark can be pretty prickly and is a difficult guy to work with sometimes- Still, he definitely makes some good pedals but I'm more about his Vibe and TTE effects- I still have an OCD on my pedal board but I rarely use it..ok I never use it.
I use the Amp Overdrive for one type of OD and then a AC booster for the EJ type tones-
You'd be disappointed in the KLON if you are seeking a distortion pedal-
I'm not a high gain player so....
Speaking of great overdrive- Here's a recent clip I did with a RedPlate Blackverb- - Guitar straight into the amp so no need for a 2K pedal board.....or a 5K amp
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_so … ID=9793203
Caution- the noodling is incessant so don't bust balls- Still, there's some funny dialogue and it's a cool amp that is getting a ton of pub..
Awesome feedback guys! Thanks so much for your input. I hope I didn't start a fight between a few of you. Always remember that music is a beautiful thing and we, as musicians, must support each other in the name of preserving Rock n' Roll! It is a monumental undertaking when we are fighting to be heard over friutbags like Justin Beiber and others. The box of rock looks great and I think I will get it. Also I will decide to feed either a pork loin into it or the okko. I think that would be some good sound. I am putting in 10% 500K pots with real oil and paper capacitors in both my working guitars which should help out too. That is a really cheap fix and I hope it works as well as they say. Once again thanks so much for all of the feeback. Sorry I am not technical enough to realize the difference between distortion and overdrive. Rock on everyone!!!!! :
+1
Best value out there IMO.
The Fulldrive 2 is basically a TS-808 with more tone-shaping options and a killer boost as well.Here is a clip of me using it - I kick the 808 side on early and the boost on at about 2:10...please don't judge my horrible playing...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOlTQ_ZkBJI
stratpaulguy86 wrote:Fulltone Fulldrive 2. You'll thank me later.
Thanks for posting the video so I can see how it sounds in a live band setting. I wish more pedals were compared that way. Never be embarrassed about your music man you rock!!
StratPaul: You exemplify what forum members should all be - always a pleasure hearing your feedback on this board - we all learn from one another.
Thanks for nice compliment.
EDIT: I think that JB improv I did was a FT Full Drive II with a Tweed Blues Jr.....ain't that ironic...lol.
BTW t92780 I love your youtube stuff. You do some of the best Jeff Beck inspired riffing I've heard. I totally envy your Strat collection too.
StratPaul: You exemplify what forum members should all be - always a pleasure hearing your feedback on this board - we all learn from one another.
Thanks for nice compliment.
EDIT: I think that JB improv I did was a FT Full Drive II with a Tweed Blues Jr.....ain't that ironic...lol.
stratpaulguy86 wrote:BTW t92780 I love your youtube stuff. You do some of the best Jeff Beck inspired riffing I've heard. I totally envy your Strat collection too.
Thanks bro, I'm very flattered. I truely value and respect your opinion as well.
Ugh- I couldn't sell my Fulldrive II fast enough.
Wow Billion I'm surprised you didn't dig the Fulldrive. We usually see eye to eye on what is considered 'good tone'. The Fulldrive is very compressed on the FM and Vintage modes, and a little ice picky in the Comp Cut mode. I guess with your amp collection (Two Rocks, Red Plates, and other Dumble based amps) the extra compression could muddy things up and squash the amp's dynamics. My application for the Fulldrive 2 is in front of a mostly clean Super Reverb to get that compression and gain that only naturally occurs when you blast your amp. I just realized that with all my Fulldrive defending it's not even on my main board!!!
Billion81 wrote:Ugh- I couldn't sell my Fulldrive II fast enough.
Wow Billion I'm surprised you didn't dig the Fulldrive. We usually see eye to eye on what is considered 'good tone'. The Fulldrive is very compressed on the FM and Vintage modes, and a little ice picky in the Comp Cut mode. I guess with your amp collection (Two Rocks, Red Plates, and other Dumble based amps) the extra compression could muddy things up and squash the amp's dynamics. My application for the Fulldrive 2 is in front of a mostly clean Super Reverb to get that compression and gain that only naturally occurs when you blast your amp. I just realized that with all my Fulldrive defending it's not even on my main board!!!
Totally we do. I could name many items that other folks get rippin tone on but fall short for me. I'm like a vortex that sucks the potential out of greatness.
Funny that you mention the Super Reverb. The FD only worked with my Vibroking and when I stacked it with the HBE pedal it was great and thick. by itself, I couldn't get it. The Tube Screamer worked well with the cranked Marshall/Categorey5 but never did well with my fender circuits.
The Redplate was transient- I got it to check out and it's already gone. Fun amp but not my bag and the cleans were a bit lifeless. Lotta relays and filtering going on in that amp.
The TGP guys blathering on about the Redplate and how perfect it is all honeymoon tribute. I remember when TwoRock first hit and it was the same hysteria. As soon as a few hit the used market the insanity will come back to earth.
Hope all is well Justin-
Teddy
Ok guys I have one more for you.....
Have you heard of the zen drive overdrive pedal? Robben Ford digs it and so do a bunch of others and talk about its the smoothest and very articulate. These German boutiques are killing me. I am trying to decide between the Okko Diablo and the Zen now! I like that the knobs are all external and seem very easy to use. I am not very patient when it come to figuring out pedals. That may be my downfall. Any thoughts?
Look up gearmanndude he does a demo of the Zen Drive.
Good Day,
I have the Full Drive 2 Mosfet thanks to Stratpaul guy...Thanks Justin
There's nothing wrong with that pedal, it has it's applications,
and I use it and like it.
BUT my favorite is still the ZenDrive 2..Without a doubt.
If I could only have 1 overdrive pedal to my name it would be the ZenDrive 2
It works well with My Marshall JMP 800 and My Crate V32.
I can get crystal clear overdrive or dirty nasty distortion and ANYTHING
in between..
If I need a change....I can change out the 12AX7 tube for another brand
or style of pre-amp tube, ie 12AT7, 12AU7..etc
It just a GREAT pedal with a multitude of tonal capabilities.
Cheers
I played two years ago a ZenDrive through a Bludotone (Dumble style amp) and thought it was just just ok at best. However, If you don't have a D-style amp and are trying to achieve similar tone, I think is a fine pedal, as D-style pedals don't usually sound great in a D-style amp. RF doesn't use ZD pedal when playing a D-style amp, he uses a Providence SOV-2, as does Matt Schofield. RF uses or has used a ZD when not playing/touring with his main dumble or d-style amps.
A pedal I use that is pricey (over $300 new) that not many people know of that's cool (minus really strong boost pedal provides naturally, so volume on pedal rarely set past 10am), is the Dumkudo (great for Strats) made in Japan and or Zenkudo (same pedal, but designed for Les Paul style guitars, so has less OD available). Pedal has three different voicings you can select. Something I found on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yus9jTY-DAQ
I've never played the other pedal.
Ok guys I have one more for you.....
Have you heard of the zen drive overdrive pedal? Robben Ford digs it and so do a bunch of others and talk about its the smoothest and very articulate. These German boutiques are killing me. I am trying to decide between the Okko Diablo and the Zen now! I like that the knobs are all external and seem very easy to use. I am not very patient when it come to figuring out pedals. That may be my downfall. Any thoughts?
I've actually heard and seen a few of those. Very sparkly looking with some cool looking japanese graphics. Like the far east Zendrive, maybe better!
Yeah, she's definetly an eye catcher on pedalboard. Has almost always stayed on my board with SOV-2. Nice pedal, but I think I paid Mr. Tanabe about $335 USD delivered. Funny, he puts your name on label on bottom of pedal after he builds it and tests it and packages in something similar to a Crown Royal velvet pouch, then puts that into a miniature plastic lunch box....too funny.
I don't recommend it for the faint of heart, no magical zen sprirt has found me since owning it and one could almost buy a Class 5- Marshall amp for same price.
EDIT: Here's how Tanabe categorizes the three different settings:
LED RED ------- Marshall mode
LED BLUE ----- DUMKUDO mode
LED GREEN --- Dumble mode
After hearing that pedal, and my Fulldrive II MOSFET, I'm starting to think all these sound the same.
How much extra is worth "better?"
Have I cured my GAS?
will the ZenDrive 2 work well with my Fender Blues Junior that i play an LP and a 335 through?
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