Topic: Need help with Gibson electric guitar question

Okay, you've got about 500 bucks to spend on a new Gibson.  What do you get?
I'm interested in any and all opinions, even if it's to not get a Gibson at all.
I recently bought a Fender Strat Bullit, but have been told that the Gibson has a much more resonant tone to it.

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Re: Need help with Gibson electric guitar question

I don't think you'll find a new Gibson for that kind of money. You may be able to find a used SG or LP studio for that though.
$500 would get you a new Epiphone Les Paul however. Hold off on the purchase until the Joe Bonamassa Epiphone Les Pauls come out (should be soon). I don't think Joe would allow Epi to put his name on a piece of junk so those may be a very good deal for the money, whatever the street price will be. As always with guitars, play before you pay!  cool

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You can get a BASIC used red Gibson Les Paul Studio for $800 or so new old stock from Guitar Center... so I would look for a used one of those. They're pretty good for the money... and it's an entry level les paul just like the bullet... well- higher quality than the bullet.

I would totally go used Gibson on this instead of getting a new epiphone. Used guitars are more broken in and you don't have a hissy fit if you put a ding in it if there's already ones there. smile

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I've played a few of the new Les Paul Jr's and I thought they sounded very nice for around $700.

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I bought a red Gibson Melody Maker the one with the single P90 pickup... not the new ones... for 399.  Brand new.  I love that guitar.  Its my mean P90 guitar.  I use it for slide mostly.  It has the most amazing slide tone of any guitar I own.  Plus its light and easy to play.

I agree with most of the posts here.  Take your 500 bucks and save it.  Buy a used Gibson when one pops up that you can afford.  Dont buy an epiphone just because you want a guitar right this second. I own and started off with an epiphone and played it for 10+ years before I had the money to buy my 58 RI lespaul.  And let me tell you there is NO comparison between Epiphone and Gibson.  NONE...  I've heavily modded my epipone to the point that the only stock thing on the guitar is the wood.  And it sounds great.  But it is nothing compared to the gibson. 

Just my two cents.

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Look for used Gibsons studios you should be able to find them from $500 to $900 depending on the condition. They will be a big step up from you bullet strat and a much different guitar.

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For roughly $500, I got a Gretsch Electromatic Pro Jet (the one with the G cutout tailpiece). It's kinda like a Les Paul, but I think the sound is not as fat as a Les Paul is known for. But that's okay with me. It has a great tone though, and runs very hot. I love it. Plus the action is to die for, like Gretsch's are known for. I find it to be a very high quality guitar. Now I'm not trying to be that guy that's like "Why get a Gibson when you can get something that's just as good for less?" But for about $500, I feel like I got a very high quality instrument.

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Honestly I think, for that money you should get a nice Epiphone Les Paul, get one that feels right in the shop, then spend the rest of the loot on getting a nice set up done. Believe me even the best guitars in the world will play like dogs if they aren't set up right, especialy Les pauls, they always require nut / truss ajustment or the G string will drop out of tune every 2 minutes.

Don't want to start knocking Gibson but most Les Pauls I have looked at recently are of dreadful finish and quality control. The Epiphones seem to be spot on, and as I said a good set up and your away!

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First off, thanks so much for the opinions and info.  Your collective guidance is greatly appreciated.

I did look at a nice Epiphone today and was impressed with the sound for the price, $300.00
Guitar Center also had a couple of used Gibsons, around $400.00 each.  Those were okay, but they were used and I'm not too sure I want to buy a used instrument.

But I also found a little music store that carried a brand of guitar that I had never heard of (not sure if that's a good sign or not).  Samick.  They make a line of Les Paul lookalikes that had really nice sound and the construction felt heavy, solid and clean lines.  This is a pic of the one I was looking at.   http://www.gregbennettguitars.com/images/rl-3.jpg

Anyone have an opinion on Samicks?

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Re: Need help with Gibson electric guitar question

Nickolas Cook wrote:

First off, thanks so much for the opinions and info.  Your collective guidance is greatly appreciated.

I did look at a nice Epiphone today and was impressed with the sound for the price, $300.00
Guitar Center also had a couple of used Gibsons, around $400.00 each.  Those were okay, but they were used and I'm not too sure I want to buy a used instrument.

But I also found a little music store that carried a brand of guitar that I had never heard of (not sure if that's a good sign or not).  Samick.  They make a line of Les Paul lookalikes that had really nice sound and the construction felt heavy, solid and clean lines.  This is a pic of the one I was looking at.   http://www.gregbennettguitars.com/images/rl-3.jpg

Anyone have an opinion on Samicks?


When you are talking about guitars in and around this price range what a lot of people don't know is that many of the makes you are looking at do not actually build the guitars. Many of the big names like Gretsch, Fender (who own Gretsch) PRS, Ibanez, ESP etc do not own the Far Eastern factories where these budget guitars are made, they simply do a deal where their products are reproduced under licence. For example Fender Japan guitars are not actualy made by Fender. They were until recently licenced to a company called Fujigen who made them for Fender.
You will also have heard of a Korean company called 'Cort', they make for Ibanez Schecter, ESP etc. This is a huge company with dreadful treatment of it's workers that employed 40 000  in the Daejon factory until the owner closed the main plant without telling the workers and moved the factory elsewhere.
I have a friend who works in the main Avalon factory here in Northern Ireland and they used to have their lower priced guitars made by Cort in Korea.He said quality per batch was either really good or really bad, in fact they had to send a whole order back.

My point is whatever you buy in this range, the chances are it is made in one of the handful of big Far Eastern factories so 'name' really doesn't matter that much at this level, they will all do the job. Just find one you like the look and sound of and get it well set up. Quality control at these factories is where they save money, and the way some guitars leave the factory - well, they are unplayable IMO. You can get a good one or a dud. But take it to a good luither and get it the best you can get it.
Don't buy based on colour or look, buy the one thet FEELS the best, to hell with the colour or the name. Trust your gut!

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I also want to mention that if you are a beginner and aren't sure about what to buy, bring along a friend who is a player to give a guitar a run through. Pick the brain of the sales person too as they wouldn't be in the business if they didn't play themselves. Even though you may not be able to afford a $6000 custom '59 Les Paul reissue at the moment, the time may come when you will. Get a guitar now that isn't only affordable, but one that plays and sounds good and is one you'll be proud to own years from now when you have a nice collection.

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RIC, yeah, that's what I did yesterday.  He's the one who suggested the Samick.  I have to admit, it's going to be either the Samick or the Epiphone.  I know some of you advised not to go with the Epiphone, but I honestly thought the one I played sounded pretty nice.

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Make sure you buy from a trusted source. If your a beginner, have a friend come along and try out the guitars while your there. You don't need to be a top of the line owner if your just starting out to learn to play. Epiphone has some fantastic guitars at more than reasonable prices. Good luck and don't get discouraged. You'll be ok!! Stay the course!!


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Re: Need help with Gibson electric guitar question

if you're a beginnier you might want to consider resale value. that greg bennet guitar won't be worth any money after you buy it. If you get a Gibson it will hold its value way more if you ever decide to sell it.

Plus, I really prefer buying used as opposed to new. Guitar Center is not my favorite place, and I'd rather give my money to somebody who needs it. Used guitars are also nice and broken in. My hands wont swell up as much after playing a used guitar. Last, the finished on used guitars has more time to cure or even wear, so the wood can resonate better with hardened finish.

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Re: Need help with Gibson electric guitar question

Nickolas Cook wrote:

But I also found a little music store that carried a brand of guitar that I had never heard of (not sure if that's a good sign or not).  Samick.  They make a line of Les Paul lookalikes that had really nice sound and the construction felt heavy, solid and clean lines.  This is a pic of the one I was looking at.   http://www.gregbennettguitars.com/images/rl-3.jpg

Anyone have an opinion on Samicks?

Samick is (or at least was) the largest guitar factory in the world and is located in Korea.  They made instruments for dozens of mid-line guitar brands.  They were also big in pianos.  Later on they started producing guitars nder their own name and hired Greg Bennett as their chief designer.  Decent stuff for sure if American name branding is not a big deal for you.

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At this point, not so much an issue with the name value as it is for the sound.  I suck, so the better the guitar sounds the better I'm sure to sound.  HA!
As for resale: I don't see myself doing that in the future.
And, at this point, there's no way in hell I can afford to pay for a Gibson unless it's used.  I'd love to be able to afford one, but there are extenuating circumstances to do with health that prevent me from even considering it.  I mean, we're talking thousands of bucks, here.  No, I think the Gibson will just have to be something I work towards as I get better at playing.  Sort of like a reward for the hours of hard work I'm putting into this and more to come,  I see it as a good thing to work for.  Definitely more realistic in the future than right now.

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In that case, jump in the fire baby.
Get your hands on a 6 string

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Re: Need help with Gibson electric guitar question

PRS makes an excellent ax with Soapbars...bought my son one.  I know Joe doesn't love the P 90, but I do in the right guitar.  Son plays Slash to White Stripes to Santana to BB King.  Al sounds good...even through a solid state amp.  Through a tube box...NICE!

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