Re: Ross halfin plays JOE's new disc for Jimmy Page.. Mixed comments!

Not to mention Joe dosn't have any trouble standing on stage without falling down..... but his fans..... thats a whole 'nother story.....

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jim m wrote:

A buzz good or bad is still a buzz. I think it is pretty cool to have been critiqued by Page good or bad. Got to think Jimmy's show off statement is akin to me calling a flat bellied twenty something dude on the beach with his shirt off, a show off.

jim m

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Re: Ross halfin plays JOE's new disc for Jimmy Page.. Mixed comments!

Maybe Jimmy Page said  'show off' in an offhand way, just as a matter of being taken aback by Joe's excellence. None of us were there to know the context of what he said.

It's a no brainer anyway.... Who did Jimmy Page have to draw influence from that could really KILL with blues/rock guitar? I mean BEAT you with it like Joe does now ... Roy Buchanan, Lonnie Mack, .... That's about it, prior to JP's own innovations, without sounding like he ripped off Clapton, who ALSO played with John Mayall, Yardbirds. I mean, there were lots of good guitar players, but WHO, in Page's era was whipping everybody's **** like Joe does in a modern context? (Jeff Beck is a whole other subject, and IMO the better of the 3 Yardbirds).

Once the guitar really became a vehicle of self expression, nobody who says they 'play guitar' has any excuse but to play pretty strong. I'll bet Keith Richards says Joe's a show off too. GOOD! If somebody who plays/understands blues/rock guitar like Ted Nugent recognizes Joe as a really strong player, then that's exactly what he is!  There's nothing wrong with playing strong. That's what rock and roll is! To do it cleanly and articulately means Joe got to stand back and take a look at things that mostly WEREN'T there before Jimmy Page, or expound on what JP created. 

Joe's RULES, and those who really made blues/rock what it is today are so blown away they don't know what to think or say. Not my invention, not even Jimmy Page's invention. I wish I could show off like that.

Re: Ross halfin plays JOE's new disc for Jimmy Page.. Mixed comments!

I wouldn't say it's showing off..but I'll say #1. please don't put Keith Richards in the same category as Jimmy Page. I will admit that I like the original version of this tune better, maybe because it sounds like zeppelin. Joe's version is great also but sounds a lot like his version of reconsider baby to my ears. I even hear a bit of the live intro to a new day yesterday in the solo...so far for me the best tune on the album is a bridge to better days. I love the hendrix covers Joe does but all in all I'd have to say the original stuff is best to me..hopefully there will be a lot more of it in the future.

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Re: Ross halfin plays JOE's new disc for Jimmy Page.. Mixed comments!

nice to have him listen but always thought Page was over rated...he never put out much good live stuff cause he was always wasted
Joe would smoke him even back in his best days


scottphilly

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Re: Ross halfin plays JOE's new disc for Jimmy Page.. Mixed comments!

what page failed to mention is joe sings great on this song as he does on all of 'you and me'..

you cant expect page to not have a bit of jab at joe, i think its just typical stuff really of big name players..

i saw joe in blue springs this week and it was a beautifully performed show,lots of long heavy blues jams with joes superb phrasing-vibrato and control,the volume swells are superb joe sheesh!

i even got to talk gear a bit with joe and he signed a poster, a calendar and my new copy of 'you and me', i even compared joe to koss which joe was flattered!

koss is one of joe and my fav guitarists ever...jcs

Re: Ross halfin plays JOE's new disc for Jimmy Page.. Mixed comments!

jcs wrote:

what page failed to mention is joe sings great on this song as he does on all of 'you and me'..

you cant expect page to not have a bit of jab at joe, i think its just typical stuff really of big name players..

i saw joe in blue springs this week and it was a beautifully performed show,lots of long heavy blues jams with joes superb phrasing-vibrato and control,the volume swells are superb joe sheesh!

i even got to talk gear a bit with joe and he signed a poster, a calendar and my new copy of 'you and me', i even compared joe to koss which joe was flattered!

koss is one of joe and my fav guitarists ever...jcs

jcs Doug Henthorn did the vocals on the CD, not Joe...Did he sing it live yet (anyone??)? So since you compared JOe to Koss, why not toss the suggestion for another Free cover like say, Fire & Water or something from that album like Heavy Load or Oh I Wept!!!

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Re: Ross halfin plays JOE's new disc for Jimmy Page.. Mixed comments!

Jimmy Page spending time from his day to listen to Joe is alright by me! Joe's comments are so typical of Joe-if you read between the lines he's admitting he made mistakes or at least felt he could've tried another take or a punch-in, BUT is comfortable enough in his own skin to just put it out there...Jimmy Page pasting together a solo on a song is fine by me-he was extremely creative in the studio and if his style is like a monkey tossing paint balloons onto a canvass, I say "nice work"!!! Personally I think BOTH versions of Tea For One are amazing performances by all concerned! And the song is very dreamy-trippy feel goody, so on my scales it weighs in heavy!!!

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Re: Ross halfin plays JOE's new disc for Jimmy Page.. Mixed comments!

There was a long span of time when I never missed Page and Zepplin when they came to Chicago. Always a great show. Jimmy was one of the top guitarists of that era.
This is not a knock on Jimmy (and I know it's comparing apples and oranges), but I like Joe more than I ever liked Jimmy.
As far as the "showing off" comment, this is coming from a guy that used to play his guitar with a freaking bow!!! Really cool, but if that's not showing off, I don't know what is.

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Re: Ross halfin plays JOE's new disc for Jimmy Page.. Mixed comments!

to put some dues out there for my other boy...it takes a brave man who is confident in his playing to let Joe open for him so that he can get exposure..that is exactly what Peter Frampton did two years ago and Peter did the same thing by letting Skynyrd open for him for two years and it helped break them before their accident!!...Peter recognizes talent..Jimmy is afraid that somebody played a Zep song better than he did..also I bet Jimmy Page doesn't post on a Led Zep forum like Joe!!! all good exposure for Joe..


scottphilly

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Re: Ross halfin plays JOE's new disc for Jimmy Page.. Mixed comments!

sorry my bad, i forgot joe did not do any singing on 'tea for one' on the cd, but joe sings on the rest of the cd and i was making a little jab at pagey because page cant sing,lol!!

at least if page does sing i dont what songs..

its damn hard to do the things joe does on guitar and sing..

as far as songs that koss played that would suit joe, sheesh, i have the 4 cd free box set most all other free recordings,a live dvd compilation and both backstreet crawler albums,there is a LOT of great free material to choose from..

only thing i need to get is 'kossoff-kirke-tetsu-rabbit'..

hard to choose one free song, i wonder what joes other koss favs are?

Re: Ross halfin plays JOE's new disc for Jimmy Page.. Mixed comments!

Maybe if Page hadn't burned so many brain cells with this drug or that he would be able to play half as good as Joe.

48 (edited by Deezer 2006-06-15 19:55:41)

Re: Ross halfin plays JOE's new disc for Jimmy Page.. Mixed comments!

Well, according to Kevin Shirley's web site, Jimmy Page was playing air guitar to Tea For One. So I guess he did like it after all.

And show Page more respect. If it wasn't for him, a lot of stuff played today would not even exist. He's a legend, plain and simple. Like I said before, Joe is so good that it doesn't take bringing down Jimmy Page to make him look better.

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Re: Ross halfin plays JOE's new disc for Jimmy Page.. Mixed comments!

Deezer wrote:

And show Page more respect. If it wasn't for him, a lot of stuff played today would not even exist. He's a legend, plain and simple. Like I said before, Joe is so good that it doesn't take bringing down Jimmy Page to make him look better.

Well said - thanks

Re: Ross halfin plays JOE's new disc for Jimmy Page.. Mixed comments!

Deezer-Thanks for putting my exact sentiments into words here.  When it comes to music, you can't leave the past behind, like it never happened. Jimmy Page was a pioneer and laid the groundwork for many musicians journeys. Joe is a class act and his talent speaks louder than words. Amen.

Stu Craig wrote:
Deezer wrote:

Show Jimmy Page Page more respect. If it wasn't for him, a lot of stuff played today would not even exist. He's a legend, plain and simple. Like I said before, Joe is so good that it doesn't take bringing down Jimmy Page to make him look better.

Well said - thanks

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51 (edited by Big Rob 2006-06-16 07:35:36)

Re: Ross halfin plays JOE's new disc for Jimmy Page.. Mixed comments!

Jimmy's Great but, i think think Jeff Beck deserves a little credit for the music back then, and well, check out Jeff Becks first solo album then check out led zeppelins first album might notice ( i think) 4 of the songs offbecks first album were on the led zeppelin album and Jimmy was trying to take credit for them...Jeff Becks album came out a year before zep's also might check out some old statements of Jimmy dissing the hell of beck lol.

fun old rockers want to take credit for everything smile

anyone ever hear about Ace Frehley trying to take credit for tapping?...i saw ol vid .. (i think it Lance Lopez said it was BB Kings cousin or something) playing an old beat up gibson acoustic totally black and white probally made ahhh maybe 45 50 years ago God only knows, and he was playing and..well tapping lol, (look it up i think it was on youtube.com

really cool beans (:)(:)=\=\

also Jeep dont diss those guys cause of the drugs...it was totally the lifestyle for those guys back then and really .. they didnt know what we know now, you cant diss the old tarts guitar playing...they all did it, and the ones that are alive still rock, including Jimmy

Re: Ross halfin plays JOE's new disc for Jimmy Page.. Mixed comments!

Page, beck, hendrix, clapton...
All great..
wish i could have seen hendrix live!
but, we have JOE........

Re: Ross halfin plays JOE's new disc for Jimmy Page.. Mixed comments!

Im sure I'll get flamed for this but Im not a big fan of the new album.  Its OK but nothing really stands out to me.  And Ive listened to it 5 times already.  Im not a new to Joe for those who dont know me, Ive been hear a long time even my post count on this new board might be low.  Im not complaining about the album, but everyone is raving about I dont understand.  If someone would like to TALK about it Im open but dont be an a$$ to me because I think its just OK.  I think the best way to explain my feelins is that if I had to give a "new" person a JB album to give them an idea of what Joe is all about it wouldnt be this one.

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Ballgame wrote:

Im sure I'll get flamed for this but Im not a big fan of the new album.  Its OK but nothing really stands out to me.  And Ive listened to it 5 times already.  Im not a new to Joe for those who dont know me, Ive been hear a long time even my post count on this new board might be low.  Im not complaining about the album, but everyone is raving about I dont understand.  If someone would like to TALK about it Im open but dont be an a$$ to me because I think its just OK.  I think the best way to explain my feelins is that if I had to give a "new" person a JB album to give them an idea of what Joe is all about it wouldnt be this one.

OK I'll stick my neck out too.
While I really like the new album...I love a lot of the songs...
The words --over produced-- came to mind the first time I listened to it.
I guess I love hearing him live sooo much, that I like the ones that are closer to live. Maybe that's why the acustic recordings really stand out to me.
Although, I must say that after I listened to it for about the 20th time (ya! can't be too bad if I've listened to it that many times right?) I kind of started overlooking that and started really listening. Joe still shines through, around and ABOVE the strings and extra layers of stuff.  As a friend of mine told me though, a lot of other albums have extras added too, it justs wasn't what I had been anticipating. Not even sure what I was anymore. I think I just had it really built up in my head.
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