[ Closed ] Studio vs. Live? (Page 1 of 2)

What is the meaning of this?

Just kidding.......I know what its like to mess up while typing

PC

Glen,
Did you say controversy? Concerning Joe, I actually like him better live. I'll listen to his songs live and then I'll have trouble listening to the studio versions afterwards. Like "Mountain Time". I love that song live. Don't care for the studio version. Same thing with the first album ANDY. I thought the album was good until I heard ANDY live. What a difference. Though one band that I thought was a letdown in concert was Zeppelin. At least the vocals. Anybody ever hear Plant sing as good in concert as he did on the studio version of "Whole Lotta Love"? If you wanna see a band that sounds exactly the same live as they do in the studio; go see Rush.

The one time I saw ZZ Top, a couple of years ago, they blew me away. From the playing to the presentation, they were excellent. Billy's vocals have gotten a bit rougher, but they've aged very well. They were very stripped down, and the MTV stuff they did was helped a lot by that. There was still some synthesizer backing tracks to Legs, but that song is made by the synths anyway. But still, they were extremely good. They jammed a lot, and it was fun.

That being said, I love it when a band jams out a bit, like if a 4 minute song gets pushed to 9 or 10 minutes. But at the same time, you get a band up there that is really tight-sounding, and they don't jam, but still sound good, that's a good live act too. Skynyrd was known for playing it very close to the record, but they had it down so good that it wasn't a bad thing. They still sounded really good. Kenny Wayne Shepherd's a lot in the same way (regardless of your feelings for Kenny). His playing is very close to the record, a lot of the time, but he still nails it, Noah Hunt always sings well live, and it's always a well-done show. So, basically, if you can pull it off live, whether you're a jammer or not, just as long as you can pull it off live.

Oh, and for the record, I'm watching the Zeppelin dvd right now, and in my opinion, Plant just sings it different, not necessarily better or worse. Just from watching this dvd they smoked onstage. Page can sometimes be very sloppy, Plant sometimes becomes overindulgent, but somehow they make it work to where you're blown away. I guess they use the old blues rule: you don't have to necessarily hit the right notes, just the emotional ones.

Hey GW,

I think you still need to check your editing..........and remember thats how some of these recordings get so "over-produced".........its just edited and edited until it is totally sterile.

Cheers

PC

Does it always do that at "very" live show??????

PC

I like either.  These days there really does NOT have to be a difference beween the studio and stage, or at least a big difference.  There can be by choice, but as it has always been, the end result live ultimately rests in the artists ability.  But it used to be quite the norm to have lousy live mixes! Examples abound, one being the Beach Boys, who were incredible in the studio because of Brian Wilson's incredible vision. But when he disappeared from the stage, the result was often nowhere near that which was recorded...not that the others weren't very talented-they were,but didn't seem to keep it gelled onstage...now his touring band now is absolutely stunningly incredible (see them to believe me) now because he steers the entire thing and commands like he did in the studio. Led Zeppelin live recordings...Yet the Allman Brothers could pull it off either way, with their live shows to this day being among the best...the Dead, American Beauty and Workingman's Dead to me are gorgeous studio masterpieces, but I dunno maybe it's just me but I honestly thought Dan Healy didn't know what the hell he was doing live...

Rock On & Keep the Faith,
Rocket

"He still doesn't charge for mistakes! "
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If a band sounds just like the record live you might as well stay at home and play the record. My main men Steve Stills and Steve Miller have always done different arrangements of the hits live. Keeps me coming back for more.

The Police much better live than recorded although still like my Zennatta Mondatta. Supertramp. was it live or was it Memorex? They did pull off the just like the record sound. Fleetwood Mac always rocked more live. ZZ Top is one of those bands that can smoke one night and stink the next. I’ll take my chances with them though.

Sting another like the record artist now but early on was a whole other show. Bring on The Night was a bunch of songs done nothing like the record. Very cool. Bob Dylan you better be familiar with the lyrics because you aren’t going to know the song till he sings it. Unfortunately understanding them is a part of the challenge.

The Dead couldn’t sound just like the record if they wanted. American Beauty and Workingman’s Dead are two classic albums I would prefer to listen to them than take my chances seeing if they would do one or two live off of it.

I liked Joe’s record but seeing him live is what got me hook line and sinker.

jim m

Thanks Phil, Jim, Jane, David, Brett, Deezer, David A. & Rocket and anyone I may have left out, for your input. I think everyone for the most part feels like I do (no Frampton intended)! I think Live vs. Studio should be different, if the artist chooses to do so. The thing about Joe is, he does not need the smoke and mirrors, or gimmicks to woo the fans at a live show. Like Robert Johnson, Clapton and a very small circle other guitarist… Joe can play anything he wants, the way he wants. Mountain Time is a good example, and I prefer the slower, more bluesy rendition. You may like the faster version. Joe has mastered his playing which most guitarist could only dream of. Ever hear any two Boston songs that didn’t sound similar? I like Boston, but in a different way. I’ve always thought what really makes Joe stand out is the fact he can go out night after night, and play what he feels, not just what he knows how to play. Isn't that the true meaning of blues? As an analogy, Joe reminds me of the great retired Pitcher… Nolan Ryan (there goes my Texas heritage again) who could throw a 104 mph fast ball, just daring the batter to catch up with it…. Then the next pitch would be a 75 mph change up… having the batter swing, with the ball six feet in front of the plate. Most pitchers can only dream of, and physically can not do this, and never will. Like Joe, it’s a God given talent. Thanks Phil & Jim for letting me have a little fun with the humor in my posts, and you and your families will always be part of Audi’s and my life. We have met some of the best people through Joe’s ring of fans, that will be lifetime friends, and isn’t that what life is really all about? I guess Joe does more than rock our socks off….Cheers,GW
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