Re: 2009 king of the blues winner

jgalvan8804 wrote:

First off this is a STUPID thread.

Second Its really funny to hear you all say... That guy sucks he's not blues,

Joe has said he's not a blues player he's an entertainer. And if I remember right he said that at a guitar center interview.

Being a amazing guitar player has nothing to do with the blues. Robert Johnson was not a amazing guitar player. He was creative and started a type of blues that influenced others. Thats what made him good. Not his chops.

WOW!

I did not read where anybody said the guy (Kirby) sucks.  Ouite the opposite.

Joe did NOT say that.  Quote him properly.

Eric Clapton & Keith Richards both thought Robert Johnson was an amazing guitar player and have said so.

MuchLove
BigJeff

Rock On & Keep the FAITH
             It is
Blues From the Bottoms

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Re: 2009 king of the blues winner

Check out this video from one of his qualification performances - it is 90% the same thing he played on stage: http://www.youtube.com/user/texasdavedo … NVqfuRo_98. Here is the original for comparison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNrFu_p_ajY

I think the guy's a really good player but, IMO, the blues isn't about "building" a solo on your living room floor and practicing that solo over and over again until it sounds improvised. If I was a judge and I had known this was a "prepared solo", I certainly would've lowered my score considerably. I know that is harsh but the competition should reward true blues players who can play in any situation, not "The guy who can write the best solo, practice it so much that it sounds improvised, and then play it on cue." This is the first time I've seen the KOTB competition and it bums me out that a prepared solo won it.

Now the acoustic piece is a different matter - that is a prepared piece and, as such, it deserves to be properly prepared (and I think that is pure awesome).

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Re: 2009 king of the blues winner

This isn't about what the blues is or is not. It's a competition put on by the Guitar Center for profit and exposure. I'd really rather not launch into another definition of the blues thread, but I think you'd be ludicrous to go on stage there without having something prepared. I can't guess how many hours these guys spent coming up with catchy stuff to the track they were to jam to.

If the tune they were going to jam to was random I'd say you're right, the winner of this competition should be able to function in any given situation. But that leaves for a lot of room for "Well he got a better backing track!", which is why it's your choice.

Take any classic guitar solo that you know so well you can hum to yourself. Many parts were thought of spontaneously I'm sure, but there's a reason why it takes months to lay down records. Some writing has to go into it, along with a billion other things.

Because it's very classically driven maybe this example won't stand up, but take any of Randy Rhoads' stuff and you'll see what I mean. Beautifully crafted solos that make it feel like you're going to hell and back.

"Music is the only thing that you can share with a million million people and you don't lose, you gain. It helps you to get energy and to live long, because when your soul is very happy then you don't want to die." - Ali Akbar Khan

Re: 2009 king of the blues winner

jgalvan8804 wrote:

So those of you who think your amazing, playing your les pauls into Joe Bonamassa inspired rigs in you bedrooms. Maybe your not famous because you are playing boring uninspiring riffs.  Maybe you need to simplify and play something interesting and possibly gimmicky, so that people listen and say
Holy crap that sounds different.  I've never heard blues played like that.

You need to calm down - it's affecting your spelling, grammar and punctuation. tongue

People are only doing what they like/love in their own homes. I'm not sure that requires to be attacked by a keyboard warrior?... roll

Re: 2009 king of the blues winner

Here is the real "King of the Blues" with 2 slides.  This dude smokes: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-AVlxO7E0Q

Re: 2009 king of the blues winner

to many of you that don't know Kirby, a little insight to his thought on all of this:
http://www.myspace.com/kirbykelleyblues/blog
try to understand him as a person and as a fellow musician...
he feels about as most of you do...
but i just never understand backhanded compliments...that is just so weird to do. compliment with one word or two and down with the rest...he works hard at his craft as i am sure you all do as well

Re: 2009 king of the blues winner

Cool blog from Mr. Kelley, I found myself silently nodding in agreement most of the time when reading it. But while the concept of a contest of the arts IS ridiculous, I'll still be there at the House of Blues on Thursday!

And for those of you who don't know, Kirby actually got to open the Crossroads fest this year. He wasn't shown in the cinematic screening, but he played an instrumental jam intro, pretty cool stuff.

"Music is the only thing that you can share with a million million people and you don't lose, you gain. It helps you to get energy and to live long, because when your soul is very happy then you don't want to die." - Ali Akbar Khan

Re: 2009 king of the blues winner

From Kirby:
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 
Not The King Of ANYTHING!
    Well...I'm crawling out of a long dark cave.
I now have a computer again...they tell me it's a plus in this age.

       Some of you may have heard/read  that recently Guitar Center has given me the title of "King Of The Blues".

   For the record...It's an honor, and  VERY much appreciated, BUT....with all due respect to those who have bestowed this title upon me... I'd like to add a disclaimer of sorts.

   Some 4,000 + guitarists  entered into this "contest", and in  MY  world, EVERY single one of them are the KINGS and/or QUEENS of the blues, or of any other genre of music that REALLY makes them "tick". We are ALL shining with the beautiful, wonderous, blessed gift of God that we call music.


   About     ANY      "contest" of the arts....


   Imagine setting Van Gogh, Renoir, Dali, Escher, da Vinci up with an easel, and giving them each 4 minutes to do their best work. Hurry up...PAINT...Oh yes...and two minutes (no more for God's sake) to do something in CHARCOAL as well. It's ludicrous to think that EITHER of them would be able to exude any facsimile of what they are REALLY capable of. Or about!


   Now..... Poe, Tennyson, Frost, Shakespear, Hemmingway..same deal....4 minutes....Write away boys....we're judgin' ya....oh yeah, and two minutes to RAP as well. You...HOPEFULLY,  get the picture.
   
    In guitar speak....   
    Imagine... Gazing up to see many of your guitar HEROS out there watching EVERY move you're making.... w/ $25,000 at stake, right?!?!... Your family is there...can't let THEM down...You haven't slept in a week....You are playing a guitar that is not yours...You know that this singular clip of time will be video-taped to be your benchmark ( your cyberspace exemplary performance) for all the world to see and hear.... FOREVER!!!!..
    At the onset of this event.... the very first lick..imagine realizing that your tuning had gone south...REALLY SOUTH. In a REAL-LIFE playing situation,what do you do? You stop....you tune.. and with hopes you redeem yourself. Who wouldn't stop to tune? Seems the prudent course. BUT...the clock has already started ticking,and you've only four minutes to play the ONE song you've chosen to perform. The band (which by the way...you've NEVER played with before) blazes away leaving you to "bowl for notes" until the finish.


     All of the above is going through your head while trying to just pull off the very best job of playing the instrument that you know and love. Sounds SURREAL doesn't it? Well,you know... it IS...............and WAS. And, I'm certain, similar anomalies occurred for each contestant up there that evening. I would venture to say that NONE played at the "top of their game" under the circumstances..


Ya see...It doesn't matter WHO wins a contest of the arts...There IS no winner! Winning in the arts is NOT a real concept.  There could NOT have been a more PERFECT setting for an event such as this than........ HOLLYWOOD!!!!!!.


       Art, in ANY form, is a beautifully subjective form of expression. If ten judges sit down to give an outcome... those VERY same judges, in ANY other clip of space and time, may very well have decided a different outcome... depending on the weather, what they'd had to eat that day, an argument with their spouse, where they were sitting at the given moment, age, MOOD, etc.... And don't forget that the "participants" are subjected to these same outside influences.
       I think even Segovia would have told you that "Sometimes ya got it....Sometimes ya don't".      Folks....the concept that any ONE (or , in this case, 1 1/2 ) songs played under these conditions represent you as an artist, as a whole, is not a REAL concept for goodness sake. This speaks for those that didn't fair as well in this, or any similar event with equal fervor.


     B.B. King is still ALIVE..   And HUBERT SUMLIN...as a JUDGE to see who is the King Of The Blues?!?!?!  REALLY?!?!?....... Does THAT make sense to anybody that knows who HUBERT SUMLIN is?


      Hubert is one of the REAL DEAL "Kings of the blues"  for those that don't.....(although I must admit, that seeing "that smile" in the front row was one of the most precious memories I'll EVER have! And,by God, THAT"LL make you a little nervous.)


            Buddy Guy,Otis Rush,etc.,etc. still alive.


      I realize, that they had to call this event something BIG right?! Something spectacular.  But I'm afraid some folks may have taken the title of this particular event in the literal sense. I've read some of the comments on the Guitar Center, and other sites, concerning the outcome of this event...well .... "drop the mouses, and back away slowly"...you can quarrel about the outcome all you want, I suppose,....but it doesn't matter WHO the "winner" might have otherwise been. Some very shallow soul would be trying their best to tear them down. At this particular juncture..the judges had picked me to come out on top at this event......and I'm extremely grateful for that. SINCERELY grateful. HOWEVER ...this CERTAINLY does not make ME the "BETTER" player. I reiterate...a winner in a contest of the arts is NOT REAL?


        And here's a surprise to some...man...it's over...give it up.


       It's very sad to me that through this event some have TOTALLY missed the boat on remembering what playing guitar is REALLY  about? .................HAVING FUN!!!

        To those that would find pleasure in an attempt to "fog the mirror" that reflects our Creator's light by having voiced your opinions in such a displeasurable manner....
        Wouldn't it have been a shame, that if you'd pass tonight in your sleep...  this should be YOUR legacy. What you'd taken the time in YOUR lifetime to have left behind for others to remember about YOU. Your OWN personal cyber-space benchmark...Sad. As I know that these very same minds are capable of a much greater accomplishment.


         I'm acutely aware that my having been awarded this title may have had absolutely NOTHING  to do with my capabilities as a guitar player. That Maybe it was something MUCH bigger.....say.... God for instance. There were certainly many God driven events that led me up to THIS one. Or perhaps the premise that music is conveyed SPIRITUALLY... with a feel that can't be measured by, say..."perfect intonation"...or choice of notes... or how pretty you may or may not be, etc., etc., etc.      A SPIRITUAL ENERGY, that we as musicians can only accept responsibility...(in very small part)... for being the vehicle through which it passes. Imagine, being able to reach something in others with pure energy...some musicians do this everyday...sometimes sans any "musical prowess" whatsoever. Are they any less viable than any other musician to the people that they've reached with what was conveyed through their hearts.
...I think not.

      Obviously, SOMEBODY had to win this event. There is comfort in knowing that at this PARTICULAR space in time, I did my best. Not EVERYDAY'S best...the best at THAT particular space of time.


         The "Powers That Be" had a LOT of time and money invested in this. The idea of exposing an undiscovered talent to the "masses" is certainly a noble endeavor. And, sadly....there will always be those that will have felt slighted in some way. As well as those that will have chosen to criticize OTHERS in an attempt to make themselves feel better about THEMSELVES. It's the human factor/error. And those that HAVE and/or WILL, I'm sure will have done so all throughout their lives ..... with or without MY attachment to it. Unless, and with hopes, some enlightenment eventually comes their way.
       
         Personally...I'm VERY happy, and Proud to have won.
    I entered into this event (upon a good friend's earnest request) with only one intention...to have fun. Certainly NOT with the mindset of guitar as a contact sport. Good luck to those that view it as such. It is my sincere wishes that they find more constructive ways to spend their lives.


       This event  came when it was needed most, over a long history of NOT so fun experiences in the music "BUSINESS". It has replenished me with something that has long been missing...DESIRE!
      I'm very happy to report also, that accompanying a long absence from music came the gift of knowing that there is SO VERY much more to this business of life than GUITAR PLAYING. That I would be absolutely NOTHING without those that love and/or support me in LIFE, as well as in this precious, spiritual gift that we simply call "music".


        My most sincere and loving thanks go out to my family and my friends especially......
      but, also to all of those involved with Guitar Center's KOTB event, including all of the sponsors who were so VERY kind and generous. And to the judges that gave of their time to participate. Thank You. Thank You. Thank You.
                                                                    My love to all!!!
                                                             Kirby


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Re: 2009 king of the blues winner

Danny! wrote:

Cool blog from Mr. Kelley, I found myself silently nodding in agreement most of the time when reading it. But while the concept of a contest of the arts IS ridiculous, I'll still be there at the House of Blues on Thursday!

And for those of you who don't know, Kirby actually got to open the Crossroads fest this year. He wasn't shown in the cinematic screening, but he played an instrumental jam intro, pretty cool stuff.


it was great to be there and watch him enjoy the moment!