Topic: EC at The RAH 25th May 2009

I've waited until today to post this as I didn’t want to put anyone off going to see EC at the RAH on any of the subsequent dates – I know how tetchy some can be about negative comment on EC lol However, last night was the final concert of EC’s residency at the RAH, so here goes.

Last Monday Kathryn and I went to see EC for the 7th night of his recent run at the RAH supported by Arc Angels. A very brief résumé of my thoughts on their set is here: http://www.jbonamassa.com/forum/viewtop … 03#p110703
Unfortunately, they suffered the dreaded support band sound problems at the RAH, although not to the extent that Scott McKeon experienced supporting Joe.

The setlist for EC was:
01 Going Down Slow
02 Key To The Highway
03 Old Love
04 Anything For Your Love
05 I Shot The Sheriff
Acoustic slot:
06 Driftin'
07 Layla
08 Nobody Knows You When You're Down And Out
09 Anytime For You
10 Somewhere Over The Rainbow
Back to electric:
11 Badge
12 Little Queen of Spades
13 Before You Accuse Me
14 Wonderful Tonight
15 Cocaine
Encore: (just the one - all very stage managed too)
16 Crossroads

We’ve seen EC at the RAH many times over the years and we were really looking forward to this gig after having our aural appetites whetted by his appearance on stage with Joe and the sparks that flew on that occasion. I’m sorry to say, however, that this one was nothing like the 4th May and almost like watching an EC gig from 20 years ago. Nearly all the stuff he played I'd heard and seen him play umpteen times before in exactly the same way. Hearing the same versions of Badge, I shot the Sherriff (ugh), Wonderful tonight (I put my fingers in my ears wink ) Cocain and Crossroads was very dull. It was formulaic and we felt he was just going through the motions. Someone recently told me that EC never plays the same solo twice – I don’t believe it. There were a couple of songs I hadn’t heard him play before and he did play the opening song, Going Down Slow, more in line with the studio version than the weaker style he adopted on One More Rider, but overall we were very disappointed. A positive was that he used his pedals and the wah-wah in Anything for your Love. Something that I think has been sadly lacking in his playing in recent years, ie how can he play White Room without wah-wah? We agreed that if we'd known the setlist before buying the tickets we probably wouldn't have bothered. To be honest, we might just as well have stayed at home, closed our eyes and listened to the live albums 24 nights and One More Car, One More Rider. It would have been almost the same.

Not surprisingly, the other reviews and comments I’ve read on this run of concerts have been mixed, with the most die hard EC fans and those who I suspect have not seen EC before seeming the most enthusiastic. I never thought I’d be writing this, but maybe I’m just getting cynical in my old age. I think in future I’ll only want to see EC when he’s on stage with another noteworthy guitarist when the chemistry is right and sparks fly. Sadly, one doesn’t usually get advance notice of such events and he’ll be in the US when I see BB later this month. There’s always the chance of a link up with Jeff Beck at the RAH on 4th July. Now, that would be special. smile

The band line up:

Guitar: Andy Fairweather Low
Drums: Steve Gadd
Keyboards: Chris Stainton
Keyboards: Tim Carmon
Bass: Willie Weeks
Backing vocals: Michelle John & Sharon White

I’ve never been a fan of Andy Fairweather Low’s playing and why he persists with him I don’t know. Phil Palmer and Tim Renwick, to name two he’s previously employed on rhythm, are far better. He's not too bad on rhythm, but out of his depth when EC let him play a solo. No complaints about the other band members.

An interesting but very bright lighting display made up of several 2 metre (6.5 feet) high panels across the rear of the stage was something new and this doubled as a rather wide TV screen during the acoustic set. The rest of the time it just had lighting effects. My reason for mentioning this is that I wondered if it was intended to prevent photography as the stage was almost completely bleached out on the shot I took. This shot was taken with my camera phone, so may not be representative of all pics taken.

Sorry about the whinge, but after seeing EC trading licks with Joe we were really looking forward to seeing him, but it was a big let down. Maybe if Doyle had been onstage with him it might have been different, but there was just no spark. I guess the 4th May won’t be surpassed for me for a long time.

Phil and Kathryn

Ars Longa, Vita Brevis

“The guy who has helped the blues industry the most is Joe Bonamassa and I would say he is more rock than some rock stuff, so to me blues is whatever you want it to be!”
Simon McBride in my interview with him in Blues Matters! Issue #56

Re: EC at The RAH 25th May 2009

Phil,
Sorry to hear about the lackluster show.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but were there 3 shows at the RAH?  If so, then I for one probably wouldn't have gone because the odds increase for a generic concert at multiple gig towns.  A spread out tour keeps things fresh imo.

Re: EC at The RAH 25th May 2009

Hi Curby,

After single shows in Dublin, Liverpool and Manchester, EC took up residency for no less than 11 (not consecutive) nights at the RAH. He had two nights on, one night off during this period.

You're probably right, I think he was too much in his comfort zone. He'll probably have a pipe and slippers next time. lol

Phil

Ars Longa, Vita Brevis

“The guy who has helped the blues industry the most is Joe Bonamassa and I would say he is more rock than some rock stuff, so to me blues is whatever you want it to be!”
Simon McBride in my interview with him in Blues Matters! Issue #56

Re: EC at The RAH 25th May 2009

Wooders wrote:

Hi Curby,

After single shows in Dublin, Liverpool and Manchester, EC took up residency for no less than 11 (not consecutive) nights at the RAH. He had two nights on, one night off during this period.

You're probably right, I think he was too much in his comfort zone. He'll probably have a pipe and slippers next time. lol

Phil

Hi Phil, we saw EC in Manchester and it was an awesome show, full of energy, great guitar work and the sound was awesome.  We were on the second row and could see the interaction between everyone.  The setlist was basically the same that you posted. (got a copy of it btw!)  But I understand that one can get in a "comfort zone" and just go through the motions.  Sounds like what happened that night for you.

Music is good for the Soul...

5 (edited by Greenose 2009-06-01 17:35:36)

Re: EC at The RAH 25th May 2009

Yes, that was my thoughts too Curby. Phil had mentioned his thoughts to my last week and I did think say to him that I did wonder if playing in the same venue (albeit it’s the RAH) night after night makes it a little stale.  The set list does not really inspire me either.  Quite different I think from the one Eva saw last year too.

But that's part of what I find very frustrating about Clapton in general. I've seen and heard part of the Clapton and Winwood DVD from Madison Square Gardens and it sounds pretty exciting and vibrant, the concert that Phil went to do not sound like that at all.

"The recently formed Edinburgh Blues Club has identified an appetite for the personal communication between musicians and audience that the blues long ago perfected." The Herald Newspaper (Scotland)
http://www.edinburgh-blues.uk

Re: EC at The RAH 25th May 2009

Hi David,

Glad you enjoyed Manchester. 2nd row seats, too! I don't know how you do it. big_smile And how did you manage to get a set list? You've definitely got a knack for getting your hands on those, or is it a case of "who you know"? lol Another one to be framed and hung in your study.

It really didn't help that the majority of the set was exactly the same and played in exactly the same way as his gigs 20 years ago. Being further back in the middle of the stalls to the side of the stage may have had something to do with our overall perception of the gig. I guess we were really spoilt on the 4th May.

Phil
PS just seen Duncan's chimed in as I was about to post. Knew you'd have something to say on the subject. wink Thanks.

Ars Longa, Vita Brevis

“The guy who has helped the blues industry the most is Joe Bonamassa and I would say he is more rock than some rock stuff, so to me blues is whatever you want it to be!”
Simon McBride in my interview with him in Blues Matters! Issue #56

Re: EC at The RAH 25th May 2009

I had a hunt back, and below is Eva's set list from Munich, which I have to say I prefer. He also played with Doyle at that show:

eva wrote:

Here´s the complete setlist:

01. Tell The Truth
02. Key To The Highway
03. Hoochie Coochie Man
04. Here But I'm Gone
05. Outside Woman Blues
06. Isn't It A Pity
07. Why Does Love Got To Be So Sad
08. Driftin'
09. Nobody Knows You When You're Down And Out
10. Motherless Child
11. Travelling Riverside Blues
12. Running On Faith
13. Motherless Children
14. Little Queen of Spades
15. Before You Accuse Me
16. Wonderful Tonight
17. Layla
18. Cocaine

Encore:
19. Crossroads

"The recently formed Edinburgh Blues Club has identified an appetite for the personal communication between musicians and audience that the blues long ago perfected." The Herald Newspaper (Scotland)
http://www.edinburgh-blues.uk

Re: EC at The RAH 25th May 2009

Thanks. Yes, that looks much better, Duncan. The electric version of Layla too. There's some stuff here I've not heard him play live, such as Outside Woman Blues and Travelling Riverside Blues. I wish he'd played this set in London. sad

Ars Longa, Vita Brevis

“The guy who has helped the blues industry the most is Joe Bonamassa and I would say he is more rock than some rock stuff, so to me blues is whatever you want it to be!”
Simon McBride in my interview with him in Blues Matters! Issue #56

Re: EC at The RAH 25th May 2009

Wooders wrote:

Thanks. Yes, that looks much better, Duncan. The electric version of Layla too. There's some stuff here I've not heard him play live, such as Outside Woman Blues and Travelling Riverside Blues. I wish he'd played this set in London. sad

Really prefer the Electric version of "Layla" any day or night.  The acoustic is just ok.  Saw EC  with Derek Trucks playing slide on "Layla", absolutely amazing, amazing, amazing!!!

Music is good for the Soul...

Re: EC at The RAH 25th May 2009

Welcome back, Phil!

Sorry this concert was such a disappointment.  Kathryn must have been really let down!  We were all very spoiled on May 4th, that is really going to be a tough one to top.  I will be interested to see how I feel at my next Joe show.

I just went to a concert that my husband dragged me to (George Strait - not my choice, but hey, my husband likes my choice in music I figure I should try and make an effort to enjoy his-I've never been to a concert that dragged on for so long) and I got the feeling that this guy was just "going thru the motions."  I think that sometimes when performers have been playing for so many years that they all have an off night, or off-tour, or whatever.  I think, though, that if they are feeling this way they owe it to themselves and their fans (who pay a lot of money to see them) to take a break.  I just finished reading Eric's autobiography, and I am frankly amazed that the man is still walking around on this earth, let alone still doing gigs.  I bought his Madison Square Garden show with Stevie Winwood and that is a superb show - he obviously can still put on a fantastic show.  I am actually bummed that they are not playing closer to Boston this summer - first time in years I've had an interest in Clapton.

One of my friends at work had a chance to go to one of these shows (see I'm not the only crazy person who jumps on a jet for 3300 miles to go to a concert) but because of work schedules and a few other things she decided to pass it up - I'll show her these posts to "cheer her up" about what she didn't miss.

Sandy

"There's a lot of people that are in so much of a hurry to be, I guess, to be famous or that they don't want to take the time to learn to play and do all that.They'd rather just knock it down off a computer and maybe get on a game show and get famous..That's fine if that's what you want to do.
"We're more old school than that. We like creating the sounds."  - Tom Petty

Re: EC at The RAH 25th May 2009

I feel for you Phil, it's a bit of a let down when you have high expectations of a legend. I too was pretty disappointed after the Liverpool gig. Even his fan site described the concert as "lack luster". I just get annoyed when I think how many people have stumped up so much money for something you can get on DVD. At Liverpool there was no dialogue with the audience - how about the RAH?

Geoff O

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Re: EC at The RAH 25th May 2009

Hi Geoff, glad it wasn't just us. No, there was no dialogue, just a good evening, the odd thank you and goodnight. Yes, it wasn't cheap at £75 ($120 or EUR85) (face value) + booking fees and I guess the concerts in Liverpool were much the same price. Does he need the money? Surely not.

Ars Longa, Vita Brevis

“The guy who has helped the blues industry the most is Joe Bonamassa and I would say he is more rock than some rock stuff, so to me blues is whatever you want it to be!”
Simon McBride in my interview with him in Blues Matters! Issue #56