Is there something wrong with me? (Page 1 of 2)

Thanks for the reply, i don't think it is something particularly wrong with mine because it does work as intended but when everything is cranked in a live situation i think that it just gets to much for the amp when the knobs are all on full. I think that my super signa drive is much like your fulldrive so i might look at that but the bogner is something i can see as number 1 for being a replacement

Thanks, i think i might play around with it more to try and get what i want but i've always felt that if the knobs are below 12 then i don't really get the kick i need especially since both my od's are kind of low gain. How would you rate your Bogner, worth the money or is there a better alternative (besides the ts) which you would prefer? I'm a compressor fan too, Bought my Keeley when i was 13 and it has been the only permanent fixture on my pedalboard apart from the dog fur that sticks to the velcro!

The Bogner Blue is simply a great pedal. It sounds the best with my HotRod Deluxe and great with my Marshalls too. It has a nice thick, not super distorted tone and really dynamic. (probably why others rave about it being "amp like") You can pick softly and notes are cleaner, a little harder and they thicken up. I keep the mini toggles Variac off, Blue mode and the other 2 dead center. All in all, it just looks and feels like a quality piece of equipment. Even the box is pretty nice..

I'm certainly NOT a $300 pedal guy, but I'd say its worth the price especially considering the alternatives out there for same price or more. I got it for around 200 with a coupon and some staunch arguing tactics. Very happy with it. Plenty of 199 dollar crap ODs you can buy, so I'd say its worth paying for. Mr. Bogner seems to know his stuff. I don't get caught up in nor regularly believe the hype of most pedal reviews, but this seriously does not sound like a pedal. Its like a bogner amp for 300 bucks.

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Yes, I'd say the Bogner blue is somewhat lower gain. The "plexi" mode is a VERY slight breakup and the "blue" mode is a bit more. I'd say more than what a ts808 will give you but certainly not a higher gain pedal. I think the amount of gain is just right for my taste, especially if your amp has a puss hair of gain and or you stick a moderately gained up tube screamer before it. The Variac setting drops the volume but give a squishier distortion tone, it's good but I prefer the Blue mode setting with variac Off.

I have absolutely no advice to give on the red pedal but from the official Bogner videos it has more gain. I got mine at guitar center, they seem to stock both red and blue; at least the 2 near me do/did. Actually even the uberschall doesn't sound bad from the Bogner channel YouTube demo. You'd automatically assume its a face melter but it can do a less gain tone.

Other thing is the boost feature. It ACTUALLY WORKS! Most pedals with a "boost" don't seem to do much. These have 2 small trip pots thru the top of the casing that allow you to set the boost volume and added gain. Pretty cool.

Really sorry I/we may have hijacked your original thread!

EDIT: just wanted to add that while the blue pedal can and is lower gain, due to the dynamic ability it posseses, should you pick more aggressively; you'll have more hair on your tone. So that is something to keep in mind and consider. I think with the red, along with more gain also comes a more modern sound. At least from what I can discern. It wouldn't make sense for them to put out 2 pedals with the same overall tone, just added gain on one.

I dont think a lot of people tend to use the TS with all the gain cranked, mostly they use it as a boost in front of a somewhat dirty amp leaving most of the gain off, everything cranked, yeah, I can see how that can get out of hand pretty fast! Like the guys say though, there isn't something wrong if its not to your taste, just the way it goes.
But hey, give me a shout should you decide to offload, I'm only in Merseyside! ;-)

I understand what you mean, my problem has always been going through phases of buying stuff to sound like other people but now i'm realising that i want my own sound and have certain gear preferences...I think everything is starting to come together well now though.
Thanks for the help and make sure to check back and let us know if you get a blue or red one and how you are finding it!

ts-808=pure greatness.

I've had clones of a TS-808 and the only time I like them is when I'm playing dark sounding guitars with a dark sounding amp.  For example I wouldn't like an 808 with a telecaster but would be fine with a neck pickup of a stratocaster.  If I was using a gibson I'd be fine with it on either pickup.  But I never used them as a boost.  I'm sure I would like it better if I did.  I prefer straight amp but my band won't let me get away with only one sound.  I use way too many pedals for my own good!